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PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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put a weed candle on your balcony and tell her she must be smelling it

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PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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Harton posted:

The bats gum up too quick. I need to buy like 20 of them so I can rotate out a fresh one constantly. Hitter boxes are the best but there is nothing worse than when it clogs to unusable at the worst moments. Popping blood vessels trying to blow it out.

Get some pipe cleaners

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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my enano's plug socket disintegrated into a million pieces and one of the pins fell out so i wired in a new one. it's working great and a new enano was $60 more than i paid when i bought this one so it was great to repair it with a 5 cent piece of plastic i bought off digi-key.



there's some screws under 2 of the cork feet on the bottom you can remove to access the guts. i had to solder some pins onto the new plug to get the wires from the heating element to connect.

also theres a huge crack in the wood from it expanding and contracting so much.

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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Entorwellian posted:

Jesus how hot was that thing getting, and for how long?

idk, however hot it normally gets. it's about 5 years old though so it's been heated and cooled hundreds of times

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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There's a WA post article about it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...7be4_story.html
(bolding mine)

quote:

He went from hiking enthusiast to ‘on death’s door’ within days. Doctors blamed vaping.

Within days, Alexander Mitchell had gone from being a 20-year-old hiking enthusiast to being kept alive by two machines forcing air into and out of his lungs and oxygenating his blood outside of his body.

“He went from being sick to being on death’s door in literally two days,” recalled his father, Daniel Mitchell, as he struggled to grasp the unthinkable. “The doctor said he was dying. In all honesty, I was preparing to plan a funeral for my child. I wept and wept for this boy.”

Alexander Mitchell’s doctors at a hospital in Payson, Utah, were baffled when the tests came back negative for bacterial pneumonia and a host of common ailments. One exam, though, picked up something unusual — evidence of abnormal immune cells in his lungs — generally associated with a rare, potentially deadly pneumonia seen in older people who accidentally inhale droplets from oil-based laxatives like mineral oil.

A doctor’s hunch would help save Mitchell’s life. The young man’s lungs had failed — he had acute respiratory distress syndrome, a life-threatening and often fatal injury of the lungs. The doctor told the family he suspected the condition was linked to vaping after hearing about similar cases elsewhere. The Provo, Utah, man and his parents had mentioned he used e-cigarettes. But until then, no one had connected the dots. Doctors had him airlifted to the University of Utah hospital in Salt Lake City, 65 miles away, so they could put him on the most advanced life support to keep oxygen flowing and allow his lungs to heal.

Mitchell’s case is among the most serious doctors have seen among the vaping-related lung illnesses now under investigation by state and federal health officials — at least 193 cases in 22 states, many involving teens and young adults. On Friday, Illinois health officials announced the first known death from a vaping-related lung illness in an adult. They declined to provide further details. Meanwhile, state health departments are reporting a growing number of cases.

There are more questions than answers about the lung illnesses and their link to devices that have surged in popularity despite little research on their long-term effects. E-cigarettes were introduced as a way to help smokers quit by satisfying their nicotine cravings without lighting up, but their use is now at epidemic levels among teenagers and young adults.

Those who have fallen ill have vaped different substances, including nicotine, marijuana-based products and do-it-yourself “home brews” over different durations and in different places. Although the cases appear similar, officials from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention caution they don’t know whether the illnesses are associated with the e-cigarette devices themselves or with specific ingredients or contaminants inhaled through them. It isn’t even clear they have a common cause or whether they might be different diseases with similar symptoms.

The severity of some of the illnesses in previously healthy young people has unnerved family members and even some doctors.

“To see patients this sick, this is extremely alarming,” said Sean Callahan, a University of Utah pulmonologist.

Alexander Mitchell thought he had the flu when he woke up earlier this summer with severe nausea, chest pains and trouble breathing. But he deteriorated so quickly that his parents, and then even the doctors, were astonished.

For his parents, the scariest moment may have come when doctors said their son’s lung failure required an additional aggressive life support machine known as ECMO. The machine pumps blood from the patient’s body to an artificial lung that adds oxygen and removes carbon dioxide, replacing the function of the person’s own lungs. The machine then sends the blood back to the patient.

“He had two tubes coming out of him, one was dark crimson red, and the other was bright red,” Daniel Mitchell recalled. “The doctors said a third of his blood was out of his system at any one time.”

If Alexander pulled out his tubes, they warned his parents, “he would be dead in 30 seconds and there was nothing we could do.”

Doctors told the parents he might need a lung transplant if he didn’t show improvement. But after about nine days, the life support machines allowed his lungs to heal. He was able to go home July 7.

The University of Utah doctors who saw Mitchell, in addition to four similar cases this summer, have their own theory about what might be causing the vaping-related illnesses.

They say one culprit may be the liquid, commonly known as vape juice, that is a component of all e-cigarettes. The products vary greatly, but all contain a heating element that produces an aerosol from a liquid that users inhale through a mouthpiece.

The surge in cases may be the result of something recently added to the oils “to dilute or add to them,” said Scott Aberegg, a University of Utah hospital pulmonologist and critical care specialist, who cared for Mitchell and four other patients at his hospital and consulted on two others at another facility.

Some of the patients had vaped for months and years, he said, so if there had been a previous cluster of cases, “we would have recognized it earlier.”

Tracing the vaping liquid back to where it was purchased, however, has been difficult in some cases. Some patients said they bought ingredient-containing cartridges in other states. One patient told doctors he got his cartridges in Las Vegas and it appeared they had been opened, presumably to introduce THC, the main ingredient that produces the mind-altering effects of marijuana, Aberegg said. THC is not legal in Utah.

Vaping liquid may contain nicotine, flavorings, propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin and other ingredients, according to the Food and Drug Administration, which regulates tobacco products, including e-cigarettes.

When the liquid is heated, the resulting aerosol can contain fine and ultrafine toxic particles, including heavy metals, chemicals used for flavoring, such as diacetyl, linked to a serious lung disease known as “popcorn lung,” and volatile organic compounds that can cause long-term health effects, including cancer, according to a 2016 U.S. surgeon general report.

“We don’t know if it’s the propylene glycol or the glycerin or other additives in the vaping liquids put there by the manufacturers, or those things in combination with other adulterants, post manufacturing, when people are adding or mixing them,” Aberegg said.

Some of the Utah patients had milder illnesses than Mitchell’s. But four of the five also had abnormal immune cells in their lung specimens, Aberegg said. Such cells are indicators of a variety of diseases, including a rare condition known as lipoid pneumonia, whose symptoms include chest pain and difficulty breathing — similar to the symptoms of bacterial pneumonia.

Aberegg cautioned that much remains unknown about what causes the abnormal immune cells in those with vaping-related illness.

But “in many of the cases, we have a high level of confidence that what we are dealing with is not just association, but caused by vaping and whatever was within the products,” Aberegg said. The abnormal cells may be a “very important marker of vaping-related pneumonia” and “an important clue to what’s going on.”

Six weeks after he left the hospital, Mitchell has resumed hiking. But with his lung capacity diminished by 25 percent, he doesn’t go for long or as often as he used to. He also struggles with his short-term memory. Doctors say they’re not sure whether he will fully recover.

Doctors say his youth was a crucial factor in his survival. “He was young, otherwise healthy, and in good strong physical condition prior to onset of illness,” said Aberegg, one of about 20 clinicians who treated the young man.

Mitchell said he has little recollection of what happened while he was in the hospital since he was in a medically induced coma for much of the time. But he is stunned that doctors attribute his near-death experience to vaping — a practice he began about two years ago because he wanted to quit conventional cigarettes.

“It’s promoted as healthier,” he said.

Mostly, he said he vaped flavored nicotine products but has used THC a few times with friends, he said. None of them has gotten sick.

In mid-June, Mitchell said he bought a different brand of vape juice — peach menthol flavor — from his regular vape shop and used it with his same e-cigarette device. It was the first time he used a well-known brand. The family did not want to identify it until the FDA investigates further. “It was a brand new box,” Mitchell recalled. Inside, “the bottle had a seal.”

He said he vaped less than usual that time. The next day, he felt sick and began his life-changing medical odyssey.

Adults can make decisions for themselves, Mitchell said. But he said his experience should be a warning about dangers that aren’t spelled out clearly about vaping.

“I didn’t think it would lead to me literally being on my death bed,” he said.

Alice Crites contributed to this report.

Seems like the jury's out so any sweeping statement about what is safe and what isn't is going to be wrong. Sounds like the industry is ripe for some disruptive regulation though.

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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My friend you can buy a big rear end box of them at Costco and they're amazing

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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I've been avoiding cartridges since this became news. It's not like I dislike smoking weed, carts are just so convenient

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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I use an e-nano mostly and it's pretty good. I got the thing that lets you plug it into a water pipe

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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Just eat the weed

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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I've never seen a $30 oz in WA. The cheapest I've seen is usually around 40 - 60 bux but that's still pretty rare. More often they're $150+ for even something not that strong and 250+ for the good stuff. Still, legal weed is the bees knees because I can walk to the store on my commute home

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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DoombatINC posted:

When you order from them you're basically ordering direct from the same factories that produce the stuff you see in most headshops. A few of the shops are better than others, it's been a while since I looked into it last but I remember a lot of people having good results with SunshineStore.

I've ordered a few things from them and they've all shown up well packaged and exactly as described. worth it

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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Hell yeah. Around here some people call it the Seattle speedball. Can't say it's a bad way to start a day.

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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i get whatever ones are under the checkout counter when I run out. i think I got some raw ones this time and they're fine

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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What's a zong and can you buy it on dhgate

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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I usually roll a lovely one and use the back of a pen to tamp it down and fit more in, and then they turn out ok

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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Vivian Darkbloom posted:

I had the MFLB back when those were all the rage and i could hardly get a buzz off it. later i bought a decent glass-on-glass plugin vape and it was a lot better

Same. Launch box worked barely for a time but I replaced it with an enano that has broken in various ways but keeps on heating.

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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My enano broke again. One of the wires I did a lovely job re-soldering broke off again. And the resistor on the led broke so the light doesn't turn on anymore when it's plugged in. I'm thinking about just re-wiring the whole thing at this point.

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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Hell Yeah posted:

if you've ever eaten a weed cookie thats been in the freezer for 2 months you know this is a bad take. shame

freeze the dough and bake them fresh :ssh:

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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I use the flip tops but I just peel the sticker off the weed package and put it on the jar

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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I try to get the popcorn weed when possible because I've had so many giant sticks hiding in the big nugs. Easier to just dump a few small ones in the grinder instead picking chunks off a stem

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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Yeah weed is a top tier insomnia aid for me too, which certainly contributes to why I consume so much. It's probably at least on par with prescription sleep aids I've tried.

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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I got an oz for $70 the other day and it was pretty good stuff and I didn't have to wait in line. God bless legal weed

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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whats the best portable dry herb vape

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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I don't think any other state requires a local ID to buy. I imagine you can just...buy it

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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get a joint rolling machine for 3 bucks and roll perfect joints every time

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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tea leaves are more similar to tobacco in that they're strip-esque and not sticky

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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Inspector Hound posted:

I tried doing the wax liquidizer thing once, so I could theoretically end up with an activated bottle of e-cig liquid, and I heartily recommend no one else try to do it unless they have a coil, a gram of wax, and a couple days for shipping that they wouldn't mind literally throwing just directly into the trash

Same, I did it exactly once and never again

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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I live in a legal state so I rinse all the weed vape distillate out of my bubbler down the drain when I clean it

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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I haven't seen Trainwreck in years either but I remember it being particularly good

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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my plug in vape has lasted me years and is definitely much easier on the ol lungs

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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SilvergunSuperman posted:

:hfive: same!

What kind do you have? I went with da buddha.

I've got an e-nano that I run through a bubbler. The plastic plug on it broke so i bought a new one and soldered it in. Other than that it's been great

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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poverty goat posted:

I turned like 4 years worth of ABV into a pan of brownies this past weekend. First I soaked it in cold water for an hour or two and replaced the water 3 or 4 times until it came out clear- the first couple were coffee-black and STANK like abv, and that all went down the drain. Then I cooked it with butter. Brownie day I did the classic "maybe I'll have two" because they came out tasting better than a lot of regular weed brownies I've eaten in history and I thought they might have come out weaker than expected. I lost like a day and a half. Turns out I needed more like a quarter of a tiny brownie.

Note that I'm not very anal about toasting every bowl right to the edge, because I save the ABV. I used to vape each bowl 3 times in the herbalaire and go right up until the taste started to get bad and that ABV made lovely edibles. YMMV

the water trick is a good one, I did an iso wash of my abv, screened it, then cooked off the alcohol. It tastes like essence of used weed

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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I bought my coworker a grinder and gave it to him yesterday since he's a weed amateur and then I went home and broke my own grinder immediately :(

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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Here's a grinder tip: use it upside down for a finer grind

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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Only you can know your own tolerance. Does it feel the same when you use it each time? If not, you're building a tolerance.

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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Play posted:

if my brother stops smoking weed his palms begin sweating profusely. and I mean PROFUSELY poor fellow can't hold onto a drat thing

Sounds like he needs to dry out

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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Frostpunk, factorio, and rimworld are all great high

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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i try to avoid coughing in general, but after a huge hit i will try to do a few small coughs to clear my lungs

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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i found a study today about vaping.

quote:

One of the first vapourizer experiments compared the emissions from multiple samples of vapourized or combusted research-grade cannabis (18).The vapour formed in the gas phase of vapourization of cannabis is composed overwhelmingly of cannabinoids with no significant pyrolytic compounds. Only trace amounts of three other compounds were found, including the terpene caryophyllene and two other substances of undetermined origin. Analysis of the smoke produced through the burned cannabis method, however, resulted in a much lower ratio of cannabinoids to overall gas space (12% of the total mass compared with 94.8%), with 111 total detectable compounds. Five of these byproducts of combustion were known polynuculear aromatic hydrocarbons, organic pollutants with known toxic and carcinogenic effects. The findings suggest that vapourization reduces the delivery of toxic byproducts associated with the use of smoked cannabis.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4456813/

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PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

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My gf is taking a month tolerance break so I've been trying to dial it back so she doesn't have to watch me get high without her. Seems like a bad time to do it with the quarantine and all...

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