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Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

"I think you'll find that when it comes to Sandwich Montoya, the sky is the limit!"

- Too Much Mustard




Two seasons in a year??? Mama Ru, you spoil us!

Previously on RuPaul's Drag Race...

TAKE THAT, DONALD TRUMP! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKPZQOh5WS4










And in the end, the winner was...





Bob the Drag Queen, Long may she reign.

Season 8 was a refreshing change of pace after the previous season, but it was so obvious at the end that Bob ran circles around everyone else. However, we didn't think that she had it in the bag unlike the Bianca year. There was that thought that Kim Chi's story would have put her over the top, but in the end Bob won it and all was right in the world.

Now we get to experience a "real" All-Stars season. Last time they put everyone into pairs to reduce the number of episodes, practically gave it to Chad Michaels (not that I mind), and DIDN'T DO A DOUBLE ELIMINATION OF RAVEN AND JUJUBE AFTER THE LACKLUSTER LSFYL I AM STILL MAD ABOUT THIS AND I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL. A full season filled with nine of our favorite queens and Roxxxy Andrews, and some of them are even from other Seasons than 5!

Seriously, I can't wait... especially with the twist of the top two LSFYL-ing for the right to eliminate one of the other queens??? DRAMA!!!!!!!!!

What is RuPaul's Drag Race? I've never watched it.

Well, let me say this:



RuPaul's Drag Race is a competitive reality show where Drag Queens compete in a series of challenges to prove that they have the Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve, and Talent to be crowned the Next Drag Superstar and win a lot of money. Episodes are pretty typical for the format: The girls complete in a mini-challenge that usually gives the winner(s) some kind of advantage, a main challenge which can be anything from building costumes to acting to putting straight men in drag, and finally a runway show. After speaking with the judges a winner is chosen who may or may not gain immunity for the following week. Normally, the queens deemed to be in the Bottom Two battle it out in the Lip Sync... For Your Life! but that's different this year because SPOILERS. (I mean I would guess that anyone reading this thread before the first episode already knows the twist, but I can't help holding out in case someone gets a gay gasp out of it.)

I know that it sounds fairly normal, but this show is a joy to watch. The important thing to keep in mind is that these girls are professional Drag Queens. They know how to speak, put on a show, throw shade, and give us the cutting one-liners in the confessionals that we expect. All of them have already been through this before and were brought back because they know how to make the show work. There's still $100K on the line, but for the most part the best thing they get out of the show is exposure. All of these queens are in demand, and being in TV again can only get them more bookings. If they are savvy then they can work this for all it's worth.

We're likely to see the following:
- The Snatch Game, a take off of the classic TV show Match Game
- The Library, whereupon the queens read each other to filth (in a structured format, they do that in an unstructured format all the time)
- Singing challenges
- Group choreography
- Dress construction
- Acting challenges
- Makeup challenges
- Makeovers for non-drag queens
- Hot guys in underwear
- Etc.

RuPaul's Drag Race Untucked shows conversations between the Queens as they await the results of the judging. We don't know if it's back or in what format for All-Stars 2, but I hope it stays around. I've loved the style revamp that the started in Season 7.

On Spoilers


IF YOU ARE A SPOILERPHOBE BE EXTRA CAREFUL THIS SEASON There is a chance that the elimination order has been spoiled up to the Top 3, so if you're like me be very careful with your Google searches. Be doubly careful the day of an episode, as review copies are released into the wild and details begin to spread.

The good thing is that for this show the journey is as or more important than the destination so it's not the end of the world if you get spoiled. Just be aware.

The Judges



RuPaul Charles


The leader of the merry bunch, we thank Ru year after year for coming up with the tasty weekly confection that is RuPaul's Drag Race. What else is there to say?

Okay, let's be real. The winner of the show is picked by Ru. The person who is kicked off each week is picked by Ru. This is Ru's baby. It exists to give glory to Ru and help sell her albums (now on iTunes). You thought it was bad to ignore Tim Gunn? DON'T IGNORE RU.

Michelle Visage


(That picture still is everything forever.)

Every once in a while I remember that Michelle wasn't an original judge on the show and I have to pause and collect my wits. The show started to take off once Michelle replaced Merle. Coincidence?

If Ru is the Mother, then Michelle is the stern Aunt. Michelle wants all of the queens to reach their potential, so she's willing to be harsh but it always comes from a place of live. She's been friends with RuPaul forever, co-hosted with Ru on her VH1 talk show, has been a more than welcome addition to the judging panel since the third season, and is the one who really goes on the road with the queens to help push the brand. She's fabulous.

Carson Kressley

Sure. Why not? We need somoene to disagree with Michelle.

Todrick Hall


Now this is more like it. Todrick has made a living out of putting on larger than life productions (and writing better music than Lucian), so he's a perfect fit for the show. This isn't a "teach the queens" season, this is a "you better work" season so I can't wait to see what he does. Ugh. He's the worst.

The Pit Crew


(Sorry, I still prefer the old pit crew.)

Eye candy, props, set movers... you call them and they'll show up in their skivvies.

Guest Judges

Ross Mathews is back, Graham Norton will take a spin, and others.

Bring on the show!

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Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

"I think you'll find that when it comes to Sandwich Montoya, the sky is the limit!"

- Too Much Mustard


BRING BACK. MY GIRLS.

AGAIN.




In order by Season and Placement, here are the Queens of All-Stars 2!

Season 2

Tatianna - 4th Place - Snatch Game Winner


Season 3
Shangela
Nope. Still no.


Season 4
Phi Phi O'Hara - Finalist


Season 5
Alaska Thunderfuck - Finalist


Roxxxy Andrews - Finalist


Detox - 4th Place


Coco Montrese - 5th Place


Alyssa Edwards - 6th Place


Season 6
Adore Delano - Finalist


Season 7
Ginger Minj - Finalist - Snatch Game Winner


Katya - 5th Place - Miss Congeniality

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Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

You may have to metaphorically make a deal with Mort. And by "Mort", I mean Robot Mort. And by "metaphorically", I mean get your coat.

I got locked out of the last topic while posting about the Season 8 live show!

Anyway...

Hubby and I went and saw the Drag Race Season 8 show on Sunday and it was pretty fun.

Ginger was a great host and could really entertain the crowd.
Chi Chi blew the house down. She lipsyncs so well! So much energy and passion!
Naomi was pretty good.
Kimchi's first song was meh and didn't feel like it fit her. The second song was funny, but she really needs to learn how to move.
Thorgy's first song I guess was supposed to be a humorous jab at herself about her issues with Bob??? But, the song came off as lackluster. Her second song was better and was more lighthearted.
Derrick was... well... she was Derrick.

Overall I enjoyed the show, however Hubby thought that Bob was going to be there and was disappointed when she wasn't.

Chekans 3 16
Jan 2, 2012

No Resetti.
No Continues.




Grimey Drawer

I can't wait to watch more Katya.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Kuros posted:

Overall I enjoyed the show, however Hubby thought that Bob was going to be there and was disappointed when she wasn't.

Maybe because she is taking a serious dramatic role in the new HBO series High Maintenance, which will also feature famous hipster gay porn star Colby Keller who will apparently have a graphic sex scene featuring full frontal nudity.

That Damn Satyr
Nov 4, 2008

A connoisseur of fine junk


Eagerly anticipating the return of Katya.

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angerbeet
Mar 23, 2004


plob


I'm kind of not here for Toddrick as a guest judge, he's the worst part of "YAAAAS SLAY KWEEN" group rolled up in a poorly dressed ball.

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

You may have to metaphorically make a deal with Mort. And by "Mort", I mean Robot Mort. And by "metaphorically", I mean get your coat.

Nihonniboku posted:

Maybe because she is taking a serious dramatic role in the new HBO series High Maintenance, which will also feature famous hipster gay porn star Colby Keller who will apparently have a graphic sex scene featuring full frontal nudity.

Bob's absence now makes sense.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Mic.com has announced something about the Lipsync for your Legacy: Allegedly the queen who wins the Lipsync gets $10,000

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Nihonniboku posted:

Maybe because she is taking a serious dramatic role in the new HBO series High Maintenance, which will also feature famous hipster gay porn star Colby Keller who will apparently have a graphic sex scene featuring full frontal nudity.

I volunteer as tribute.

angerbeet posted:

I'm kind of not here for Toddrick as a guest judge, he's the worst part of "YAAAAS SLAY KWEEN" group rolled up in a poorly dressed ball.

Toddrick's a Kickstarter fraud and all-around basic YouTuber.

He's an extremely diligent self-promoter, quasi-club kid, and loves to use black stereotypes for humor, though, so Mama Ru's not going to stop repping him any time soon. 😑

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

"I think you'll find that when it comes to Sandwich Montoya, the sky is the limit!"

- Too Much Mustard


Mom has promised a return of her post-show recaps, so I'm looking forward to some Dada style backstage dish again.

Pigasus
Dec 26, 2009

Too fat to wear pink.



So no matter what happens, the best part of seasons 5 (Alaska), 6 (ADORE), and 7 (Katya) are back!!

I can't wait to hear Katya do her Dada-ist humor again. I need more TV content.

Quinctia
Jul 16, 2006

Disasterrific.

Minor C&P error...

Pinwiz11 posted:

Season 4
Phi Phi O'Hara - Finalist


Looking forward to tomorrow! Slightly disappointed with the move to Thursday...I work late Mondays and Thursdays. Any other day of the week would let me watch the show on time.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

"I think you'll find that when it comes to Sandwich Montoya, the sky is the limit!"

- Too Much Mustard


Quinctia posted:

Minor C&P error...

D'oh. So much C&P, I thought I had caught it all. Fixed.

In other news, the Hurricane Bianca trailer is out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f22WzqqV_H4

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die


Hype, but I wish there were more deep cuts like Tatianna. Alaska is cool but she's on wow like twice a week, she doesn't need this and dare u say I'm a bit burned out on her. Katya too, a bit.

But the instagram and Facebook horde demand more mom and more lasky (#robbed #justiceforalaska #yourmakeupisterrible) and they are both super entertaining so I guess its cool.

angerbeet
Mar 23, 2004


plob


Personally I think the biggest injustice is that Max isn't back.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

"I think you'll find that when it comes to Sandwich Montoya, the sky is the limit!"

- Too Much Mustard


I'm looking at the first four seasons and there aren't that many queens remaining that I could realistically see being called an All-Star (that would get cast by production) and would do it. They already used a lot of them with the first All-Stars so there's only really Ongina, Morgan McMichaels, and... Jessica Wild? Maybe? They won't cast Willam and Shangela probably wouldn't do it at this point.

I'm more annoyed that Joslyn Fox didn't get a shot.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

angerbeet posted:

Personally I think the biggest injustice is that Max isn't back.

For a more obvious first boot?

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die


Delta deserves another go. I don't really mind if they pick more fromater seasons, I just wanted deeper picks Kenya Michael, Milk, Trixie & Trinity could all hold their own against this pack I think.

caligulamprey
Jan 23, 2007

It never stops.

"Some of the girls might be more focused on rehabilitating their reputation rather than just winning the competition. But I'm here to show the word that I've turned into a total loving monster." God bless Katya.

Also I wish Tammie Brown was the Shangela of All Stars.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO



Combed Thunderclap posted:

Toddrick's a Kickstarter fraud and all-around basic YouTuber.

He's an extremely diligent self-promoter, quasi-club kid, and loves to use black stereotypes for humor, though, so Mama Ru's not going to stop repping him any time soon. 😑
Todrick has been fraudin' long before that I think. His run on American Idol several seasons ago was painted with a wonderful backstory of him ripping off a bunch of young children that paid to be in some ensemble production with his name on the marquee but somehow "the producers" took all the money and left Todrick unable to do anything but high-tail it out of there and not look back.

I'd bet he's going to soon run into trouble with Bravo & WoW after he starts pulling larger scams under their good name.

Which I sort of like him for in that "Duh, I'm a scorpion" way of going through the world.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

"I think you'll find that when it comes to Sandwich Montoya, the sky is the limit!"

- Too Much Mustard


FYI - Tonight's episode is being simulcast on VH1, I'll be using that option so I can see it in HD.

e: Next week too, so maybe the entire season?

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Nemo
Feb 24, 2001

Uh! Double up Uh! Uh!


Yeah the whole season will be on VH1. I hope that continues into future seasons of Drag Race because I need these queens in HD.

And according to my DVR, episode two is Snatch Game already!

Not Today Satan
Apr 18, 2007



Pinwiz11 posted:

D'oh. So much C&P, I thought I had caught it all. Fixed.

In other news, the Hurricane Bianca trailer is out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f22WzqqV_H4

Yay new thread and a new trailer! Oh happy day!

dino.
Mar 28, 2010

Yip Yip, bitch.


I get the Todrick Hall hate, but I'm going to keep an open mind, and let the behaviour on the show speak for itself.

Same goes for Phi2 and Roxy. I felt like the "shade" wasn't shade so much as it was outright nasty bitchiness. It wasn't funny. It didn't take any sort of talent to come up with. It was just mean-spirited and nasty. Tatiana wasn't nasty so much as she was basic in season 2. Her looks weren't all that exciting. She did OK I guess. And when she called out Tyra for being a complete bitch, I was like "Yeah, she's got a point."

BUT! It's a brand new day, and I'm going to keep my mind open and go by current performance. I do look forward to seeing Ross Matthews back on though. He's such a treasure. This world is not good enough for him.

Also, I'm not too mad at the casting. They wanted girls who were going to draw a massive audience. Especially in the case of Ginger and Katya from season 7, I feel like they had a serious chance of winning. No wait, that's a lie. They didn't wear a corset that tight. Whatever. They were both hilarious, and performed really well in the challenges. I'm definitely looking forward to what they've got to bring to the light. Katya isn't so self-loathing anymore. Ginger has had even more time to hone that razor-sharp wit of hers, and turn it from eye-roll worthy us-vs-them bullshit (bitter old bitch brigade) into showing off her flawless timing, and irreverent sense of humour. It's why I loved her on the show; when she actually made even a half-assed effort to be funny, she freaking nailed it.

I am SO here for this AS2, and am supremely glad to be rid of the terrible team challenge bullshit. In fact, the fewer team anythings they have, the better.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

dino. posted:

Same goes for Phi2 and Roxy. I felt like the "shade" wasn't shade so much as it was outright nasty bitchiness. It wasn't funny. It didn't take any sort of talent to come up with. It was just mean-spirited and nasty.

From what I've heard, Roxxxy really has taken a turn and has turned down the nastiness. She said that she was shocked at how she came across, and vowed to make a change.

PhiPhi says that she has changed, but apparently she still, 5 years later, talks mad poo poo about Sharon. I'm not surprised.

I'm actually curious about how she affords all these looks for her 365 days of drag. She doesn't seem to be going cheap. I wonder if her fiance comes from money and is funding this experiment.

Fantastisk
May 19, 2011

After a long night of hooking, trade didn't like the session, so he had gutted me and set me on fire, but, you know, I didn't die. I had crystallized, and now I'm a glamazon bitch ready for the runway.

I'm so excited about going to bed right now, because when I wake up tomorrow, I'll have a whole new exciting episode of RPDR to watch Can't wait!

Fresh Like Zafo
May 31, 2012


HERE WE GO!!!!

NOW IN HD!!!!

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

I absolutely loving love Katya's laugh. She finds everything absolutely hysterical, and it sounds like she is going to pass out from lack of air.

Fresh Like Zafo
May 31, 2012


I'm loving Roxxxy's look. Even though I hated her on her season, I'm willing to give her a chance.


Not feeling Alaska's lip injections, though. Very collapsed anus.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Fresh Like Zafo posted:

Not feeling Alaska's lip injections, though. Very collapsed anus.

And the fillers...

"Roxxxy Andrews, I think about you every morning... at the bus stop." poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo

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Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

"Forget it Jake, it's Sooze-Town" Is that me? Am I the Suddenly Sooze-Town of people??


God drat Adore looks like a homeless person.

Living for Alaska 🙌

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

"I think you'll find that when it comes to Sandwich Montoya, the sky is the limit!"

- Too Much Mustard


Nihonniboku posted:

And the fillers...

"Roxxxy Andrews, I think about you every morning... at the bus stop." poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo

I died. Officially. drat.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

"Forget it Jake, it's Sooze-Town" Is that me? Am I the Suddenly Sooze-Town of people??


Michelle looking for that cinch.

Fresh Like Zafo
May 31, 2012


PULL UP, PHI PHI! PULL UP!

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

"Forget it Jake, it's Sooze-Town" Is that me? Am I the Suddenly Sooze-Town of people??


Roxxxy looks good.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

"I think you'll find that when it comes to Sandwich Montoya, the sky is the limit!"

- Too Much Mustard


Nicely done, Tatiana!

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Man, what a fantastic start to the season. With the exception of Coco's creepy silk bathrobe dance whatever it was (drat, Coco, you're just oblivious), all of the queen's talent exhibitions were absolutely phenomenal. It was obvious that they knew this was coming, and had plenty of time to prepare. I don't think they were kept in the dark about the challenges as much as they usually are.

Roxxxy and Tati's burlesque dances were hottt. Who knew that Ginger could sing (PhiPhi, not so much). Alaska couldn't really sing, but she really injected enough humor into it to make up for it.

Edit: Gurl. Michelle is coming HARD for the queens tonight.

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Fresh Like Zafo
May 31, 2012


Man, Raven did well in that spoken word!


Oh, that's Tatianna? Well, then...

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Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

"Forget it Jake, it's Sooze-Town" Is that me? Am I the Suddenly Sooze-Town of people??


Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Michelle looking for that cinch.

Called it.

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