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Frog Act posted:cursive doesn't matter, its being able to process and articulate ideas that matters, fuckin type it up or whatever its 2016 research indicates note-taking, both in and out of academic settings, is significantly more effective at committing items to memory if hand-written. handwriting is still a relevant broad-spectrum life skill, sorry bout it also cursive is much faster, maybe we should be teaching ONLY cursive
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except no one's cursive is legible - teachers can barely read your print writing lol besides you can take notes shorthand and still get the same benefits there's no reason to standardize cursive just cuz of that
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Aug 25, 2016 23:10
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Moridin920 posted:except no one's cursive is legible - teachers can barely read your print writing lol because they were taught it for like three years in grade school, if at all. you ever seen a handwritten letter from the fifties or sixties? cursive so smooth and legible it looks like someone gave a CNC machine a pen make america cursive again
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Aug 25, 2016 23:15
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seems like a total waste of time lol the 50s and 60s were extremely lame and ungood
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Aug 25, 2016 23:16
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OMGVBFLOL posted:because they were taught it for like three years in grade school, if at all. An animal suffered to produce that quill - I'm calling my mom
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Aug 25, 2016 23:17
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also im a huge hipster jackoff with a big santa beard who takes notes in class with a japanese fountain pen so take my opinion with a grain of salt
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Aug 25, 2016 23:18
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OMGVBFLOL posted:research indicates note-taking, both in and out of academic settings, is significantly more effective at committing items to memory if hand-written. handwriting is still a relevant broad-spectrum life skill, sorry bout it sounds stupid i typed notes in undergrad and it worked flawlessly. research dumb
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Aug 25, 2016 23:21
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I usually remember something better if I've handwritten it down, even if I don't ever then read what I wrote.
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Aug 25, 2016 23:22
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i keep a journal rolodex
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Aug 25, 2016 23:23
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ill concede that the best way to take notes on a dense book is to highlight, write in a notebook, and jot stuff in a word document all at once tho
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Frog Act posted:yeah i'm doing my thesis on late-20th century intellectual history and philosophy so i doubt i'll be able to secure funding to write baout that kind of arcane nonsense, which is a shame, because i love history more than anything. just seems like a history PHD right now would be a bad idea. also, yeah, stipends suck, i'm not allowed to work another job and i make ~10k a year as a TA. grad students in other departments make almost twice that, the fuckers I had a niche interest in Early Modern Euro (Niche enough to the point where profs told me I either needed to go to England for a chance at finding interested parties, or go back to the 90s when funding was better), so I decided to leave the PhD route behind and head into a field where I could use my historical training, all while learning more technical skills and professional skills to better engage the public with. Also, I'll have more job opportunities, which is nice. And, not to be too pessimistic, from some of the people I know even a lone history MA is a hard sell, unless you can attach it to another degree or a cert. As for sad answers, I had a student, unironically, tell me that Caesar killed Augustus to save Cleopatra and democracy for Rome, so I hear you there. It's rough and I think difficulties handling criticism may actually tie into some of these broader intellectual issues. They managed to do much better after coming to me for real study help and attending at least a few sections, but it was depressing. Blazing Ownager posted:Honestly I would be OK if the letter said "If you want a safe space, get hosed. If you want trigger warnings, here's your last one: 3.. 2.. 1.. go gently caress yourself. Good luck in the coming school year." Agreed. To be honest, I think the "progressive" drives to censor poo poo are more insidious since they couch them in the language of progressive or leftist politics, thus finding ways to associate free expression with bigotry and conservatism. All in the service of what they deem as right and acceptable of course.
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Fire Barrel posted:As for sad answers, I had a student, unironically, tell me that Caesar killed Augustus to save Cleopatra and democracy for Rome, so I hear you there. if it makes you feel better at all even 12-13 year old me would have called that student a dumbass did that person even play age of empires i mean come on
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Aug 25, 2016 23:32
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im genuinely impressed they were familiar with them tbh
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This is a good thread as any for this news story. http://www.wpr.org/uw-stout-moves-controversial-80-year-old-murals
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Blazing Ownager posted:Honestly I would be OK if the letter said "If you want a safe space, get hosed. If you want trigger warnings, here's your last one: 3.. 2.. 1.. go gently caress yourself. Good luck in the coming school year." lol if this is your reaction to people requesting that you not be an rear end in a top hat \/\/\/\/ lmao sugar free jazz fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Aug 25, 2016 |
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Aug 25, 2016 23:44
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Moridin920 posted:It is reasonable for someone to be upset by those things quote:so let's put some kind of something informing people before they just sit down and get hit with images of mass graves from Auschwitz.
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the trump tutelage posted:okay okay a) that'd be perfect in a world where all syllabuses and course descriptions were actually well written and/or accurate 100% of the time and b) that doesn't account for special events and c) it takes 0 effort to include such a thing on flyers and refusing to do even that is just bullheaded stubborn adversarialism by that logic we don't need things like parental advisory warnings on media, either Borneo Jimmy posted:This is a good thread as any for this news story. quote:Some have accused the university of censoring history and have said the decision is political correctness run amuck. eh that's what we've been sayin' just trying to pump their numbers
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Aug 25, 2016 23:48
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Moridin920 posted:by that logic we don't need things like parental advisory warnings on media, either 
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Moridin920 posted:by that logic we don't need things like parental advisory warnings on media, either Unironically fine with this.
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Frog Act posted:i'm a grad student so if i play my cards right i will literally never leave college same. the blue haired menace is real, don't believe it's just tumblr
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Aug 26, 2016 00:16
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Moridin920 posted:I'm pretty sure it's real in like very specific contexts that I can't even really think of right now but... in general cultures mesh and intermingle and that's how everything spreads and I'm pretty sure no rational person left or right wing would dispute it.
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Rutibex posted:don't worry, the solution to this problem is just more robocop logic. if you are accused of cultural appropriation just tell them to stop dening your trans-racial identify cultural appropriation is garbage but so is denying history
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EugeneJ posted:I read somewhere that most people go for degrees in Psychology because they're mentally hosed up in some way and want to fix themselves For those who realize they have problems and get real professional help, it works. For those who just remain oblivious or become aware without seeking help it's just learning about cancer in lieu of radiation therapy. Either way, lol if you are going into clinical psych and need trigger warnings.
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Aug 26, 2016 00:32
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that gladwell book that explains learned autism is a good read
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college is just a daycare for adults under the guise of education. they drain infantile people of their money and those people come out thinking their opinions matter more because they accomplished something that society says is important. FIGHT THE POWER! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5jPDqeb25s 
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Gaunab posted:college is just a daycare for adults under the guise of education. they drain infantile people of their money and those people come out thinking their opinions matter more because they accomplished something that society says is important. cept med school and law school and that poo poo is really hard some types of stem r hard too if u arent wired for it
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epileptic_ev posted:cept med school and law school and that poo poo is really hard some types of stem r hard too if u arent wired for it any kind of grad level program is going to be devoid of safe spaces. you can't exactly publish papers to a safe space
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GORILLA BASTARD posted:University of Chicago Tells Incoming Students: Don't Expect Safe Spaces or Trigger Warnings lol emonazis. is it 2005 again?
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Rutibex posted:any kind of grad level program is going to be devoid of safe spaces. you can't exactly publish papers to a safe space y yes i am a genius ty
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epileptic_ev posted:that gladwell book that explains learned autism is a good read gently caress gladwell
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William Stoner posted:gently caress gladwell no gently caress you
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Moridin920 posted:probably not install word filters to your web browser to replace words with the N word like you are 13 idk man Sable is of the opinion that these socjus practices favored by wealthy white people are actually more about avoiding the uncouthness of the lower classes. Hence trigger warning becomes friend of the family warning. Because, really, that's what they want. They want to erase all the bad things, including the history that brought them to their comfortable positions. They want absolution for their own monstrous existence. NE way, it's worth a chuckle.
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Moridin920 posted:okay a) that'd be perfect in a world where all syllabuses and course descriptions were actually well written and/or accurate 100% of the time and b) that doesn't account for special events and c) it takes 0 effort to include such a thing on flyers and refusing to do even that is just bullheaded stubborn adversarialism When it comes to syllabi, particularly for certain classes it really is easy to let students know about potentially difficult material and, for ease of use, many do, in fact, do stuff like this. I've even seen some syllabi, made before the last few years, flag particularly graphic or unsettling course content. However, nothing was ever at risk of being removed for the sake of a person's sensibilities, but only if time was limited. Optimally, I think the classroom as "safe space" would invite the uncomfortable person to explore and discuss a potentially tricky subject in an open environment where everyone has a right to the floor. Same goes for posters advertising events/speakers. Having a boiler plate warning message for the campus body, just like an advisory warning, could let them know if a particular event/speaker may not be for them. From there, however, it's up to the students if they go or not, and how they handle it if they do. They are adults after all. Banning speakers or cancelling events, though, is not a great idea, just like being to willing to base hires, or firings, on popular opinion. All that said, I think anti-trigger warning/safe space people can get crazy just as out of hand as the groups they criticize. It's important to stand for academic freedom and freedom of expression for all on campuses, but sometimes people make mountains out of mole hills on all sides of an argument. A simple warning won't erode freedom, just like a shithead speaker won't instantly run to your dorm to antagonize you. Frog Act posted:ill concede that the best way to take notes on a dense book is to highlight, write in a notebook, and jot stuff in a word document all at once tho I mainly tend to annotate and use either a word doc or notebook, usually not both. For vital materials, though, I tended to take a lot more notes and actually do a closer reading of the book, rather than a "grad school" reading of it. One reason why I enjoy writing book reviews for history books, though, is they really inform you how to tackle a work of history in a systematic way. And, with generally tight word limits, they can make good teaching tools imo.
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epileptic_ev posted:just want my freedom U r the last free man, actually.
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Ork of Fiction posted:U r the last free man, actually. till next week because of goon societies morbid revenge proclivities
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epileptic_ev posted:till next week because of goon societies morbid revenge proclivities 
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Actually George Soros sent me a ten thousand dollar check to "whack" Dare, which I'm pretty sure means give him a handy, but I ain't doin' poo poo until the check clears. Fuckin' bank has been holding it for two weeks now. They say it's supposed to clear next Monday but I'm not holding my breath.
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ya i wouldnt mind my freedom and a clean record did i mention that before im not dare
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epileptic_ev posted:no gently caress you 
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Fire Barrel posted:When it comes to syllabi, particularly for certain classes it really is easy to let students know about potentially difficult material and, for ease of use, many do, in fact, do stuff like this. I've even seen some syllabi, made before the last few years, flag particularly graphic or unsettling course content. However, nothing was ever at risk of being removed for the sake of a person's sensibilities, but only if time was limited. Optimally, I think the classroom as "safe space" would invite the uncomfortable person to explore and discuss a potentially tricky subject in an open environment where everyone has a right to the floor. for really thorough readings i like the combo because i can write down more extensive stuff on my laptop, like whatever interpretation or relationship or whatever a passage makes me think about, and i can use the notebook for super quick reference to concepts/key ideas for discussions. that's really for excellent indepth stuff, or something i have to write about, or something thesis related, though, i've certainly been guilty of the two-hour 200 page book "grad student" hyperread book reviews have probably been one of the most useful exercises for me also, since they demand brevity and a full evaluation of the book. i typically do better on 20-40 pg papers because it's easier for me to bloviate a little bit, cramming content into the tight space you're afforded in a review is a real skill-builder. the only B i've gotten in grad school was on a review of a Patton biography because i didn't properly address the mundane biographical elements and just jumped into criticism, which is a pretty big blunder that i won't make again and i'm glad to have learned about practically i wish there was more money in history 
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