Tom Gorman posted:

lmao

college kids need bubbles, binkys and nappy naps

Business Gorillas posted:

there's ways to tell people what's in a speech by telling people what the speech is called, not to mention things that are pretty graphic having a "warning: this has some mature content and might not be for everyone" have been around since before some tumblr brokebrains appropriated diagnosed mental disorders

its a good idea in general because i honestly don't understand how people who have lived in self-segregation for the entirety of their childhoods are supposed to function in the adult world

reallivedinosaur posted:

they are just following what they think is the popular trend

colleges/universities in the states are setting themselves up to be presses that suck in government tuition money and output worthless degrees, hoping to hell hillary wins

everyone gets a passing grade so long as their tuition checks clear - and if the government is backing those checks then the potential to make free money is limitless

VendaGoat posted:

William Stoner posted:

Every book and class I have ever been to has readily accessible info through a syllabus or reviews about the content.

Do people not know this?

Business Gorillas posted:

the same thing goes for "trigger warnings" since "triggers" already have a very specific meaning for people with PTSD and idiots looking to project their problems onto anyone else but themselves have taken the word and tried to define it to "thing i don't like"

Al Cowens posted:

This is such a great thread to read with this extension right now

Decebal posted:

Are you surprised people are reacting this way ? There were serious articles about cafeterias banning fried rice and poo poo like that.

I guess you're either a nazi or a pissbaby no middle-ground anymore.

Decebal posted:

Well you're not allowed to call them mentally ill either because you're a normative scum or something. So what are you supposed to do then ?

Frosted Flake posted:

These are the people offended by other people's wedding rings as symbols of "heteromonoganormativity and patriarchal ownership of women". I don't know how they will be running expelled students programs or counselling abuse victims without breaking down.

plain blue jacket posted:

I thought cultural appropriation was a normal thing humans have been doing for as long as we had spoken language and could scrawl on the cave wall with poo poo.

Heath posted:

you kind of answered your own question with this tho. including any trigger warnings necessitates including ALL possible trigger warnings, because literally anything can be argued to be a trigger for someone. let's say you have a class that discusses sexual assault and put trigger warnings: sexuality, sexual assault, derogatory epithets, violence. then someone comes to class and flips poo poo that you didn't put up a trigger warning for bicycles because the girl that was assaulted was on her bicycle and some bitchmade idiot retard scraped their knee when they fell off a bike 16 years prior and now have outbursts of violent sobbing and now the school has to include a bicycle trigger warning on a class lecture on sexual assault. since "trigger warning" as a category is kind of a new thing there's no etiquette or style sheet on what constitutes an appropriate addition to the category. trigger warnings are treated equally by necessity across the board, which has the dual effect of minimizing legitimately traumatic things (like rape, racism, abuse) while elevating peoples' pet peeves to legitimacy (pomegranates, bicycles, rocks arranged to look like a dick & balls)

Decebal posted:

Isn't exposure to a certain stimuli a way to get rid of phobias ?

Maybe they need to be "triggered" until the brain doesn't respond in such a way ? Nothing can have the same impact it had the first couple of times if you do it repeatedly.

Heath posted:

they should, but they also have concerns regarding liability and someone making a claim that their legitimate disorder/concern was ignored by the school. if as an institution you are willfully committing to the inclusion of trigger warnings, you're committing to that for all students, and there's nothing that designates that a burden of proof should be put on the victim (and it shouldn't be) to prove that whatever their trigger is is legitimately detrimental to their health & wellbeing

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

I don't understand how ptsd is so common now. Like do they write a letter to all the allergy people saying they aren't going to scale back the botony program?

Decebal posted:

So where do you draw the line ? Just at rape triggers or what ?

Decebal posted:

How come those WW2 guys were such badasses then ? No complaining, just hard work and putting people on the Moon! Maybe they would have whined as much but it was strongly discouraged and the country was better for it ! Harden the gently caress up

quote:

As the size of the British Expeditionary Force increased, and manpower became in shorter supply, the number of shell shock cases became a growing problem for the military authorities. At the Battle of the Somme in 1916, as many as 40% of casualties were shell-shocked, resulting in concern about an epidemic of psychiatric casualties, which could not be afforded in either military or financial terms.

Heath posted:

and just so we're clear i completely agree with you but these are the kinds of arguments people make for having trigger warnings at the first place.

quote:

i think UoC is making the right choice here in refusing to include any trigger warnings, but giving a preamble "hey, these topics will be discussed in this class and your participation or lack thereof will necessarily impact your grade" is, imo, due diligence done on the part of the school

Sp1r0_Agn3W posted:

i guess life back in the day was hard enough that people didnt have the luxury to worry about bullshit

JediTalentAgent posted:

There was an article about a year ago when all the protests were going on and a community college was asked why their school wasn't experiencing the same thing.

The response was akin to, "Our students are too busy with jobs, families, school, commuting, etc. to have the time to stop to protest."

Frosted Flake posted:

I have a serious question about this stuff: Do some of these concepts create examples of themselves?

All of the Poly/Genderqueer/misc. whatever people I know are in Social Work, Womyns Studies, or Psych. So, if these people stayed in their small towns and never heard of these concepts, would they still be genderqueer? Or would they just be a sort of tomboyish farmer's daughter and marry that good Thompson boy from down the lane?

quote:

There are only about 200 Piraha and they live in groups of 10 to 20. Their words for numbers appear limited to "one," "two" and "many," and the word for "one" sometimes means a small quantity.

There is no word for 'number', pronouns do not relate to number (eg, 'he' and 'they' are the same word), and most standard quantifiers like 'more', 'several', 'all' and 'each' do not exist.

pentyne posted:

He was sharing a tent with a female Occupy person and talked about how upset his girlfriend was but he was here making a difference.

Fire Barrel posted:

The letter was a dumb idea and was inviting controversy. I'm all for protecting academic freedom from knee-jerk students, but the tone and timing was not on point. Better to deal with situations as they arise and use them as moments to spell out to students why it's better for them to confront ideas that they deem uncomfortable in a college setting, rather than shut themselves away from the world. Also, do it in a manner that is less confrontational.

Fire Barrel posted:

As for sad answers, I had a student, unironically, tell me that Caesar killed Augustus to save Cleopatra and democracy for Rome, so I hear you there.

the trump tutelage posted:

okay

no. if triggers are such a big issue for you but you're too negligent to read a course description or syllabus then that's on you.

Borneo Jimmy posted:

This is a good thread as any for this news story.

http://www.wpr.org/uw-stout-moves-controversial-80-year-old-murals

quote:

Some have accused the university of censoring history and have said the decision is political correctness run amuck.

Chancellor Meyer disagreed, calling it a good business decision not based on political correctness.

"So, we want to make sure that, really, what we decorate our hallways with and what we put in our hallways is consistent with our values to try to attract more Native Americans to the university," Meyer said.

Cthulu Carl posted:

Joke's on them, I was born a shitlord.

E1M1 posted:

This, of course, requires you to completely ignore the very real stories and opinions from professors saying they are actively afraid of crossing their students in any way that could get them disciplined or fired.