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Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Reading about all the Tankies who justify all the killing and the stuff about Stalin really believing in communism really emphasizes the truth of the saying "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

I see that saying as perfectly describing the USSR.

A grand ideal, and the sins done in its service that made it into the imperialist that controlled eastern europe.

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Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



https://twitter.com/GamingAndPandas...154359198273536

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Tankies reported him as gay.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Quick follow up on the goldsmiths stupidity.

The Lgbtq+ society has been completely suspended and disaffiliated by the student union, and there are plans to make a new society for lgbt people.

https://twitter.com/drlangtry_girl/...524563707719680

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012




Yeah, there are legit problems with gay people who live in such countries getting outed because they don't like communism/islam.

I've seen gays on twitter in islamic countries get reported to authorities because of their 'islamaphobia' offending someone on twitter... which kinda reinforces and legitimizes that phobia among the gay community.

Lo-ping got involved in that twitter discussion as well I think.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



https://twitter.com/WSWS_Updates/st...src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/KarlMarx200yrs/...843346906005505


I don't even know where to begin quoting this article.


https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/20...4/pseu-o04.html

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Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Bryter posted:

WSWS are trots, not tankies. the apologia for sexual harassment should be a giveaway

Huh, didn't know that.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Creamed Cormp posted:

Interesting way to say you like the kind of comedy that punches down instead of up

So comedy making fun of NAMBLA, furries, or other reprehensible fringe opinions/groups is off limits in woke comedy, got it.

Pharohman777 has a new favorite as of 19:08 on Oct 6, 2018

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Prurient Squid posted:

The old SLL. They controlled the Young Socialists in the Labour Party till they were thrown out. They reinvented themselves as the Workers Revolutionary Party and tried to publish a daily paper which led to total burnout. There was some kind of surprise sex scandal involving their leader which may have lead to a split? They seem to have gone in a weird direction. They must be very small. They're one of two groups claiming to be the International Committee of the Fourth International which is not to be confused with the Mandelite United Secretariat of the Fourth International.

I work with an older guy who used to be in them. Very calm and intelligent. Thought it was led by a madman.

Oh wow...

Hey, can you tell us more about this 'madman'?

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Looking him up on google, and wow, I can see why he was called a madman.

edit:

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Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Mr. Sunshine posted:

C'mon, you gotta give those of us too lazy to Google some good dirt.

https://www1.wsws.org/IML/fi_vol13_..._no1_full.shtml

This is an 1986 condemnation of the corruption in the WRP from a marxist perspective and its betrayal of workers. Lots of info, but very dense with marxist jargon.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wor...utionary_Party_(UK)

Ok, heres the Scoop.

Gerry Healy was the leader of the trotskyist Workers Revolutionary party through the 70s and 80s, and shattered his party's base among trade unions while the british miners strike was going on and calling for an overthrow of the british government under the Labor party... while the tories said the same thing and pulled off a vote of no confidence to get thatcher into power.

Then the WRP internally split into a favored 'upstairs' group of journalists, actors, etc that were favored by Gerry and brought in lots of cash, while the rest were the downstairs rank and file who had no say whatsoever in the party and did day to day stuff.

The the WRP defended the 1980 steel workers strike and the unions betrayal of its workers in allowing huge job cuts.

Then Healy started blantanly betraying his principles in the 1980s and started attacking labor unions wanting wage increases, and saying that the 1981 immigrant riots were really done by tory conspirators and that no one should join in.

And then there was the exploitation of the PLO to get cozy with arab leaders, like an 1977 agreement with Libya to give info to the regime for a million pounds, or the betrayal of the iraq communist party to saddam for cash, and that the "Arab Ba'ath Socialist Party of Iraq has played a hundredfold more progressive role in the Middle East than Stalinism"

Then Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982, the arab rulers swerved right, and therefore all the dirty money dried up as the party had neglected grassroots efforts, and huge loans were secretly taken out to keep the party solvent, while Healy turned into a stalinist.

Then it was revealed the Healy had sexually assaulted 26 female members in 1986, and the entire organzation underwent a 8 way split.

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Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



I read that, and all I can say is Mao really, really needs an editor to make any sense.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Biscats n Gravy posted:

The best poo poo I've ever seen on twitter is when no-fun stick-in-the-mud tankies get mad at people making jokes/comments about wanting to have sex with historical Communist leaders. Imagine taking yourself that seriously. Worrying about that kind of poo poo is what makes people die from stress-induced heart attacks at 35 or 40.
I wonder if they nod approvingly at stuff like Winnie the pooh being banned in china because people made jokes about Xi looking like him.

The whole no-fun zone tankie types set up is kinda fascinating as someone in the US where anyone can make jokes about historical people/current politics and no one cares.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012




But you can freely leave university or summer camp at any time, and have full communications access.

Is the guy who said that trying to argue in favor of China's concentration camps?

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



https://twitter.com/GinwanAirgetlam...881100943765504



The reactions taking the piss out of that email are great.

https://twitter.com/quinn_mcg_/stat...970332819472384

https://twitter.com/space_is_fizzy/...964308586770434

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



The best and most damming part is asking for unemployed members to pay 200$ minimum.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



teen witch posted:

C. Somehow both at the same time. Id pay good money to see a ML bake-off/possible cookie based pogrom.

I could see this as a great comedy sketch.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



I wonder if moral value judgments like 'dont try to prevent all thought other than the party line from existing' and 'imprisoning and slaughtering huge portions of a population because of their class/ethnicity shouldn't be done' would be a good thing to add to general Marxist literature or whatever.

It feels like there should be a book or something written in response to the atrocities advocated for by tankies about combining morality and Marxism.

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Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



http://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2...ty-hall-office/

Basically an entire socialist party is trying to act as a single politician by micromanaging everything she says or does.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012




Wasn't the Soviet approach literally 'wreck the entire field of biology in the ussr and call genetics pseudoscience?'

quote:

In 1948, genetics was officially declared "a bourgeois pseudoscience";[17] all geneticists were fired from their jobs (some were also arrested), and all genetic research was discontinued.

Over 3,000 biologists were imprisoned, fired, or executed for attempting to oppose Lysenkoism at one time and overall, scientific research in genetics was effectively destroyed until the death of Stalin in 1953.[2] Due to Lysenkoism, crop yields in the USSR actually declined as well.[2][8]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



AOC also said in an interview that when she says socialism, she means Scandinavian-type socialism, not the cuban, Venezuelan, or Chinese types that are heavily intertwined in the eyes of the american public with repressive one-party rule.

So naturally tankies who want any statement against the party line to be punished via gulag are mad

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



How is producing leaders in a multinational mutual defense pact a bad thing?

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



The situation in Venezuela exploded recently and revealed a ton of 'socialists' still think the psuv kleptocracy in Venezuela is a socialist government.

Its a big problem for socialism when lots of tankies are loudly willing to go to bat for such an awful government that has abandoned all socialist principles.

Like, as an example, the government has refused all offers of medical aid or charity, even as vital antibiotics and drugs vanish and hospitals break down from lack of supply. That's how awful the government there is.

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Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Don't let your friend into the C-spam Venezuela thread then, he would pop multiple veins trying to argue with all the tankies in there.


Its infuriating to read.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Oxxidation posted:

the lefties' position is that the current situation in venezuela is just an overture for another disastrous imperialist venture into a crippled nation, which is probably true, but they're still showing their asses in a tremendous way because

a) they're under the mistaken apprehension that venezuela is still an actual socialist state a la cuba rather than a kleptocratic narcostate run for the benefit of maybe three dozen very fat and terrible people at most,

b) their lack of knowledge about the country's recent ills mean they keep blathering that things "will get worse" even though anyone with even cursory knowledge of the subject knows that it's already so bad that firebombing Caracas into the ground would technically count as a civic works project, and

c) when people who actually live there call them out on it they instead become aggrieved Cassandras frantically remixing foreign-policy talking points, up to and including accusing the country's citizens and refugees of being disgruntled bougies, CIA assets, or both

knowing things is counter-revolutionary

The lack of appreciation about just how awful everything is down there that anything other than the current government would an improvement is the most infuriating thing.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



https://twitter.com/redstarlesbian/...660468957790213

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



The funny thing is that Farrakhan is a VERY public anti-semite, and has been for decades. Its easy to find his vile speeches online as well.

So to think that its all misinformation says quite a bit about that persons embrace of anti-Semitism if it comes from a minority.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



https://twitter.com/ElamBend/status/1129586992352768000

A Soviet style planned economy also lead to the conditions that lead to a senseless slaughter of whale populations to meet 5-year plans and get bonuses for bringing in more whales than the quota.

And then there's the Aral sea, which is now a desert.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



https://twitter.com/PandasAndGaming...403248353644544

https://twitter.com/Mr_Cryonic/stat...408877629706241

A big twitter slapfight went down, and this stupidity stood out

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



https://twitter.com/times_tribal/st...645734400970752

They haven't deleted their original post yet, so get yer responses dunking on his stupidity while they're easy to get!.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



https://twitter.com/Wrlds4mostXpert...134357638524928

https://twitter.com/times_tribal/st...652629727727622

https://twitter.com/mthienenkamp/st...935592310968321

https://twitter.com/Jbizz2012/statu...027446796771329

The whole thing is amazing.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



https://twitter.com/peakcapitolism/...233147817209856

https://twitter.com/TinMyTon/status/1133821816240300032

So that Chernobyl series had a reference to the holomdor in the latest espisode.

Tankies are irritated.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Sobered up pretty quick huh?

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Ah, the 'Christian soccer mom' view of sex and sexuality.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Mr. Sunshine posted:

I feel confident saying that any society where you can't make fun of the leaders is a poo poo society.

That sort of paranoid control over what people can say or write is the shittiest part of other countries becoming communist following the soviet model, because they also copied the USSR's paranoid control freak tendencies regarding what people can say.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



https://twitter.com/CherryGuts/stat...622344314040321

Its pride month, and this seemed relevant.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Paladinus posted:

Stalin was queer, because in his marriage he clearly was a dom.

That reminds me of the idiocy that was 'stalin was an oppressed poc!'

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



https://twitter.com/AliceAvizandum/...935936542904320

https://twitter.com/AliceAvizandum/...936552983945216

Stalinism is the only way to avert climate change is a galaxybrain take.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Fallen Hamprince posted:

https://twitter.com/realtimewwii/st...0670116864?s=21

The key to solving climate change is to refuse to believe that it is a threat even when it has become obvious to everyone around you that it is going to kill you.

https://twitter.com/LaughsAndAshes/...717905505599489

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Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012



Also, didn't stalin order the international communists to stop fighting/denouncing the nazis and denounce Britain and france while the agreement between the soviet union and mazi Germany was in effect, and France and Britain were at war with Germany?

Lol, their beloved leader happily collaborated with the nazis.

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