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divabot
Jun 17, 2015

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Ideally I shouldn't post my own personal arguments with leviathan-supersystem on tumblr, because tumblr. The bit where he claimed Robert Conquest supported his views on the Holodomor was pretty awesome though. If he brings it up again I'll do a detailed dissection of the terrible evidence. (Hint: a quote that refers to a quote somewhere else that quote-mines a quote from a third place that claims to be from an otherwise-unknown "personal communication" may not be the gold standard of historical evidence, and btw Conquest would have ripped your head off and shat down your neck.)

But I will note that I started Stalin apologetics on RationalWiki. RW gets mountains of poo poo from reactionaries as a "far leftist SJW wiki", so we need more poo poo from tankies really.

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pookel posted:

Good thread idea. I don't have much experience with these folks on the internet, but I'm happy to go looking. I did go to college with an unapologetic Stalinist who was shunned by campus leftist organizations for his views. My most vivid memory of him was when Bob Dole spoke on campus, and Brad the Stalinist got to ask a question, only instead of asking a question he started ranting about American imperialism. Eventually the security people took the microphone away, and he began shouting desperately as if he were being dragged away by the police ... except he wasn't, he was just standing there with no mike. Bob Dole said "sorry, was that a question?" and everyone laughed and he slunk away in shame.

As for content: Western apologists for Hugo Chavez would fit here, yes? IIRC, there were a lot of those during his regime.

RUHNAMA, Niyazov, Monday (NNN) — Hugo Chávez has promised to speed up “the construction of true socialism” in Venezuela now that he can stand for re-election indefinitely. “We have exploded the barriers to a permanent socialist revolution.”

Chávez has changed Venezuela from the sky right down to the earth,” said the completely typical Venezuelan citizen our reporter was supplied with. “Now there are opportunities for all, from the richest to the most deprived. The people love him. We cannot go back.”

Chávez has already taken control of the country’s vast oil wealth, expropriated private landholdings and businesses and instituted a programme of deep social reforms. He has attacked the “distribution of wealth” problem by destroying as much of it as possible. After Chávez promised to nationalise the biggest power and phone companies, the Caracas Stock Exchange closed nearly 20% down, Electricidad de Caracas fell 25% and CA Nacional Telefonos was suspended from trading. The Venezuelan Bolivar has been replaced in common use with twigs and small rocks, which suddenly have much greater practical exchange value.

Chávez next wants to merge all his coalition partners into a single party, remove the opposition television channel, nationalise key businesses and rule by decree for a year. However, construction of a one-hundred-metre tall gold statue of himself in the Caracas city square that turns to follow the sun will be delayed until next year, and renaming the days of the week and months of the year after himself and his mother can wait until the year after.

Fidel Castro expressed his confidence that Chávez was in no danger from the US. “This is the CIA we’re talking about,” said Castro. “They could gently caress up a wet dream. Hey, maybe they’ll try the exploding cigar trick again. That’s a good one.”

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Jun 17, 2015

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A White Guy posted:

Also, what does 'tankie' mean? Or rather, why are authoritarian leftists called tankies, specifically?

To quote myself from the vile socjus regressive-left wiki:

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Serious devotees of Soviet Union apologetics are referred to by the derogatory epithet tankies, after the tanks that rolled into Hungary when they dared leave the Soviet Union's loving hugs. This term was coined by other communists who didn't agree with such actions and originated as a term for the Communist Party of Great Britain when they followed the Kremlin line.

The term is routinely used concerning Stalin apologists. Because he was dead by the time the tanks rolled, they will often claim the word properly refers to someone other than them — though approximately nobody goes along with this. You'll also see it being used for Mao apologists, North Korea apologists, Nicolae Ceausescu apologists, Berlin Wall apologists, and those who cheered the June Fourth Incident Tiananmen Square Massacre.

Other groups get called "tankies" if they take an authoritarian line. There are actually tiny Trotskyist groups that supported military "intervention" in Hungary, e.g. the Marcyites.

Worth excerpting for the first post?

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Silver2195 posted:

The Spartacist League is icky.

But man, the demo chants!

I used to go to anti-Nazi demos in my dissolute youth. I had short hair and wore a suit and tie, because presentation is important and also it confused the poo poo out of the police. Everyone else was assorted commies and anarchists. The Spartacists would always show up with the best-made banners and have these really complicated chants that nobody could be expected to pay attention to. I expect the Melbourne lot had as their cult leader that one guy (of course it was a guy) who is so anal he alphabetises his underwear.

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Jun 17, 2015

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pookel posted:



But ... Roman Polanski didn't just have sex with an underage girl, he drugged her and forcibly raped her. Even if 13-year-olds could legally consent, what he did was surprise sex. How can anyone defend him?

Roman Polanski has thanked creepy surprise sex apologists worldwide in his battle to avoid extradition to the US for the artistically necessary 1977 drug surprise sex of a 13-year-old girl.

“Messages have come from supporters of drugging children and loving them from across the world,” the Oscar-winning rapist wrote in an open letter published on the website of French intellectual and drug surprise sex apologist Bernard-Henri Levy.

“I would like every one of them to know how heartening it is, when one is locked up in a cold, bare cell — and my luxurious ski resort chalet is a cold, bare cell to me — to hear this murmur of human voices and of solidarity with drugging and loving young girls.”

The 76-year-old director is now under house arrest in Switzerland and facing extradition to the United States where he could be sentenced for having drugged and hosed a 13-year-old girl he was photographing in 1977. He fled the country in 1978 on the eve of sentencing because he believed a judge might actually dare put him, of all people, in jail on some trumped-up pretext.

“It’s clearly victimisation of an artiste by a judge who just doesn’t understand Hollywood,” said celebrity drug surprise sex supporter Whoopi Goldberg. “Luring in kids, giving them drugs and then sodomising them mercilessly and brutally is what this town was built on. The camerawork on the images of the drugged young girl’s anus skewered on the end of Mr Polanski’s genius cock as she mumbled ‘no, stop, no’ was particularly awe-inspiring. You don’t get work like that for free.”

The “Free Polanski” movement is widely considered even wackier than hip-hop’s periodic “Free Some Guy Who Totally Deserved To Go To Jail” movements.



sorry, we're talking about icky leftist surprise sex apologists, aren't we.

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Jun 17, 2015

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Alaois posted:

lmao this clod is a professor of Medieval English lit at my college

I am so sorry.

If you're going to teach children about revolutionary socialism, I recommend the Robert Peston approach:

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Jun 17, 2015

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I am amazed I only just heard of National Bolshevism.

You can make almost anything really bad by adding "National" in front, e.g. National Anarchism, aka Nazis who don't like being told what to do. An "anarchist" strain that unites anarchists in detesting it more than "anarchocapitalism" does.

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Antivehicular posted:

So is there a tankie equivant of Urbit/HPMOR/other rationalist and/or DE Big Dumb Projects? I do love crazy people's Big Dumb Projects.


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Silver2195 posted:

I couldn't get past the first few lines (the spelling alone was hurting my eyes), but it's a parody, right?

It looks mostly like he would like to stab HPMOR in its stupid face. I think it's genius and delight in every episode notification. Everyone should read it.

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Literally the one time a tankie will decide, well, maybe Robert Conquest wasn't so bad after all.

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The Sausages posted:

I can only wonder if these guys would laugh at Life of Brian, oblivious to the fact that it's their bullshit getting called out as much as than their rival politicos, or if they'd punch a hole in the loving screen and start a 14 page essay explaining how because of the inherent bourgeois revisionism all satirists must be strangled with piano wire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS-0Az7dgRY#t=70s

Leftists (and not just tankies) know it's all about those other leftists.

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pookel posted:

Educate me, why is this? Didn't he expose the Holodomor?

Conquest wrote The Great Terror, detailing all the awfulness of Stalin in relentless detail. The second edition, after a pile of documents came out showing the truth was actually even worse, could reasonably have been subtitled I loving Told You So, Didn't I, Why Yes I Believe That I In Fact Did. But, he doesn't call the Holodomor a "genocide", so tankies will wave him around as incontrovertible proof that your so-called-Holodomor was, I dunno, some sort of physical improvement camp or something.

Example I linked earlier in the thread. I actually tracked that cite down and it was a cite of a cite of a quote from an unpublished letter from 2004. Think of a creationist quote-mining Charles Darwin, and you'll get the idea.

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Jun 17, 2015

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welp, commie and anarchist tumblr today

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Jun 17, 2015

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Terrible Opinions posted:

divabot's comment on communists is unrelated to the previous two on identity politics. Castro just died and apologists are coming out of the woodwork.

It's more the usual hilarity of the leftist circular firing squad in action.

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Jun 17, 2015

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Have these been here yet?

* No tears for tankies (The Charnel House, 14 June 2015) (with aggrieved tankies in the comments)
* Flakes Alive! (The Baffler, 2015)

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Jun 17, 2015

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I mean, I spend way too much of my time being an online firebrand (you should see my Facebook drown in liberal tears when I say super-controversial things like "actually, Nazis are bad") but at least I admit I'm actually a fat suburban liberal

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Jun 17, 2015

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quote:

“You should become an anarcho-primitivist like me,” said Trelawney in an ignorant voice of oppression. “Only anarcho-primitivism can free the people and save the environment. Our strategy is to sit around and wait until civilization finally collapses. It can’t be much longer now. How about you sit here with me and we’ll wait for it to happen together?”

“gently caress that,” I said rebelliously as I rose up from my chair the way I hoped to get the proletariat to rise up against loving CAPITALSIM.

“No, wait!” Trelawney yelled after me in a reactionary way. “I haven’t even told you about the wonders of herbal medicine, which won’t need to do much anyway since most diseases are actually caused by civilization!”

“Don’t spew that pseudoscientific woo at me!” I replied in a working man’s voice as I glamorously turned back to face her. “I only believe in true science, like loving LYSENKOISM.”

have I mentioned like 900 times yet how much I love Harry Potter Becomes A Communist

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Jun 17, 2015

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Silver2195 posted:

Interesting thread here (read the whole thing): https://twitter.com/AudaciousBeat/s...917103138975744

That's how to car-crash your good cause. Holy poo poo.

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Jun 17, 2015

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look, it's clearly time we got back to basics here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PH72d26KTI

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Jun 17, 2015

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Guy Goodbody posted:

Some people made the case that people shouldn't try to get gay marriage legalized, because marriage is an outdated, patriarchal, hetero-normative tradition that should be done away with entirely.

Bryter posted:

It was actually a pretty typical stance for gay rights campaigners until fairly recently in the grand scheme of things, especially among women. The kind of gay person who was not only comfortable outing themselves, but also brave enough to actively fight for their rights tended to be pretty radical.

including loving Stonewall UK, the largest mainstream gay activist organisation in the UK *, when it was being run by a raving transphobe



* LGBT is properly initialised GGGG

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Jun 17, 2015

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A White Guy posted:

Yeah, I sincerely wish the Greens in the US were like the Greens of the UK/Australia/Canada: all about the science. Here in the US, the Greens are basically leftist versions of antivaxxers.

All I really want is a party of environmentalist democratic socialists.

Greens in the UK are nutters too. Their base is woo supporters. It took many people laughing at them for many years to get them to admit that actually science works and stuff in the party manifestos. They frequently put insane perennial candidates forward.

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we had a great one on the Dark Enlightenment thread where an aggrieved Sam Kriss fan got so OUTRAGED that actually we thought Sam wasn't very good that he called us all autistic and even the other Sam fan asked him to please stop

I mean, there are people I like and respect who think Sam is actually good, but uh

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Arivia posted:

Also a moonbat friend of good old Riley and the rest of them.

Alexandra Erin's nice, please don't tell me she's Stalin

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Blue Footed Booby posted:

this is so dumb I'd be amazed if he doesn't poo poo other people's pants

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After 191 chapters, Harry Potter Becomes A Communist is complete!

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the comparison to the Satanic Panic and recovered memories appears to be a meme, I've seen it from someone who should know better on my Facebook. Everyone politely pointed out he was being a shithead, and how in all the public cases he named as "sudden", victims had been talking about it for years with nobody listening.

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https://twitter.com/SamFateKeeper/s...873248513118208

https://twitter.com/Speediest_Sloth...857683312562176

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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

This twitter is peak-corncobbing. It posts some pretty hard self-owns.

https://twitter.com/revisionistakes...440747991953408

don't worry, Trots are LARPers too. all Western communism since 1991 is historical reenactment that doesn't realise it.

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Deceitful Penguin posted:

Because the persecution of the kulaks was based on their unwillingness to help feed the starving people in the cities.

spotted the tankie lads

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Jun 17, 2015

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Thomas the Tankie Engine



above: James the Red Engine

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Jun 17, 2015

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Who's so lovely they make Maoist Rebel News look erudite? Alt-right chud Sargon of Akkad, of course! From the Internet alt-righters self-owning thread:

Tesseraction posted:

Watch? I have it on in the background while I do menial shite I can turn my brain off for.

32 minutes in and Carlgon is saying that Marxism is wrong because people are getting richer worldwide, and less of the world is living on less than a dollar a day now.

Unruhe points out that purchasing power parity is not the same, saying that it's all well and good to have a two dollars a day in Ghana but that's lost on a single loaf of bread. Carl is offended that a loaf of bread can cost so much money, saying bread isn't that price in the UK (spoiler: it is). Unruhe says you can look it up, Carl refuses to believe this or Google it.

This leads to Unruhe getting into the point that more people having ten dollars a day in the world isn't them necessarily the same because of purchasing power parity, which Carl says he's never heard of and doesn't think it sounds relevant. Unruhe is flabbergasted and patiently tries to point out that it's a rather important concept, to which Carl says they can discuss that another time because it's a different subject, and Unruhe pushes back that it's rather important to discussing Marxism in the modern day.

Carl moans that he doesn't have any data on this (the only thing he's cited so far is that loving Pinker book, which Unruhe pointed out is omitting information in order to not undermine his own arguments), and now Unruhe is trying to send him OECD data so he can explain to carl the basics of purchasing power parity.

Bless Unruhe for his patience because I'd have used some choice words by now.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i dislike unhruhe personaly. (tankie assadist/DPRK jackoff) but good on him for stomping a sophist fucktard like carl. it shows how weak the alt right is if loving fringe tankies can stomp their poo poo.

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time to post this again

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stalin_apologetics

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but consider:

tankies, you're not converting a single loving person in this thread. please stfu and desist in making the self-ownage come from inside the thread. thanks. tanks.

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trapped mouse posted:

one of the most annoying things i find about tankies is they will often either A. refuse to vote or B. vote for republicans.

holy poo poo what? please expand on the latter, there's gonna be definite comedy gold here

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Prurient Squid posted:

My Tankie guy just left our organisation. He's joining the CPGB-ML. Yay! Also lol.

Aren't there three different CPGB-MLs?

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44 new posts! something grrrrreat must have happened!

(reads)

ah well

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https://twitter.com/DxGGEAUX/status/1036862116743929861

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i enjoyed this, hope you will too

just after the local ML finally got reluctantly banned from /r/sneerclub for being too much of a dick too often

i think the "stalin was a dumbass" theory needs expansion

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102 new messages! Someone has discovered an exciting new pile of tankie idiocy or






no, it's just the local tankies tanking and bringing the idiocy right here live

grover furr jesus loving christ

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Bryter posted:

I think you'll find he's actually a Marcyite administrator

amazed there are no actual posadists in the job

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