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redeyes posted:Hot sex. Still, not 1000x greater endurance than NAND like the hype said way back when. Might have been oversold but this is also the first iteration of this brand new memory type
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Bunch of hardware sites are posting Optane info https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/03/intels-first-optane-ssd-375gb-that-you-can-also-use-as-ram/ http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-3d-xpoint-optane-dc-p4800x,33938.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/11208/intel-introduces-optane-ssd-dc-p4800x-with-3d-xpoint-memory WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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It's got interesting use cases in enterprise environments sure, but it won't help me load my FO4 load times so I don't see the point
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priznat posted:Non volatile storage that is (almost) as fast as DRAM is the holy grail, so cache won't be lost with a power failure without having to use supercaps or batteries to back it up to nand. Yeah it presents some interesting sounding (but unproven or theoretical) use cases and I die a little inside when people post "yeah but a 960 pro is bigger and look at this rate sequential read speed who cares"
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Intel released some info on the Optane cache product https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/03/intels-first-optane-ssd-for-regular-pcs-is-a-small-but-has-super-fast-cache/ quote:The Optane Memory drives will be available to order on April 24th. A 16GB drive costs $44 while a 32GB drive costs $77. $44 is well in the "ah gently caress why not" category of random purchases for my computer
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:Except it takes up an M2 slot that would be much better used for another SSD. Apparently lots of new computers are still shipped with rotational drives and the apparent NAND shortage makes things worse. And I've got two m.2 slots on my mATX board that also has 2 rotational drives in it, so for $44 why not.
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Anandtech has some more indepth numbers on Optane http://www.anandtech.com/show/11209/intel-optane-ssd-dc-p4800x-review-a-deep-dive-into-3d-xpoint-enterprise-performance And Tom http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-optane-3d-xpoint-p4800x,5030.html WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Review of the Optane system accelerator up http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-optane-3d-xpoint-memory,5032.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/11210/the-intel-optane-memory-ssd-review-32gb-of-kaby-lake-caching
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:In the comments for the optane articles, people are mentioning how Intel's original released specs have been totally missed. They're being shut down by comments like "Intel didn't specify gen 1" It's a first productized release of a brand new media that is still faster than the fastest NAND SSDs, that's pretty impressive. Even missing the marketing hype numbers the numbers still look really good. Capacity/cost is an issue, a big one, but the rest looks drat good Ak Gara posted:Intel Optane talk: Why would it not? It's faster than current SSDs and you'll get a performance boost. It won't be as noticeable as with a HDD. The Tom's Hardware review paired it up with a crappier Intel 600p and it got a performance boost. Whether or not you would have just used the Optane cost to upgrade from a 600p to a 960 is a different story. A 512GB 960 was almost twice the cost of a 600 though last I checked. Not sure if you'd actually notice the performance difference in actual usage though WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I think the tech will be great. But this iteration of it, with the limited size, is absolutely useless for desktop users. For the enthusiast crowd that already owns high capacity SSDs, sure. The NAND shortage probably creates a scenario where OEMs probably don't want to buy high capacity NAND drives and this lets them get away with putting Optane in front of a 2TB rotational drive and market it both on speed and capacity. I don't think the caching scenario is as limited in appeal as most enthusiasts believe WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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SlayVus posted:Linus did a small performance test with Optane and an SSD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgTYSsaNU_A TL;DW, Optane is just as fast as an SSD when used as a Cache, but sometimes slower. Better to save money for an actual SSD. There is a performance difference when accelerating SSDs but as he said it's mostly noticeable in synthetic benchmarks. Tom's synthetic benchmarks also showed an improvement The real problem I have with it is limiting it to new chipsets and processors. Takes away from the value proposition. But I guess marketing gonna market WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Besides the shortage, apparently more and more companies are converting over to slower TLC. So maybe used MLC drives are starting to command a premium.
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Anyone pre-order a P4800X? https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B071VRNXVM/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new
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If you're not paying close to 2 grand for your storage you might as well just give up using computers completely
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:isn't samsung's SLC V-NAND pcie x8 drive going to be cheaper than that as well as have better capacity/iops across the board It'll have to have comparable latency and performance at low queue depth to be a true comparison. That's not to say it won't be a better option for most users and as fast or faster in other areas WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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I thought game load times were not something you could greatly improve since everything has to be decompressed anyway
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I haven't reinstalled Windows on a mobo upgrade since at least Windows 7 was around. That includes going from an AMD board to an Intel one
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Beaten in a couple of other threads, but Intel will apparently be launching 240GB and 480GB consumer version Optane SSDs at the end of October. http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-optane-ssd-900p-specs-launches-end-of-october.html I expect everyone running a mission critical home server to run out and get one. Wonder what it will do for my Plex server
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Look at this guy who doesn't have hundreds of people using his Plex server
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With best in class latency and sustained workload performance maybe people can upgrade their sarcasm detectors  But yeah a ton of these benefits probably won't help with most consumer users WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Oct 1, 2017 |
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Optane 900p reviews have dropped  http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-optane-ssd-900p-3d-xpoint,5292.html https://www.anandtech.com/show/11953/the-intel-optane-ssd-900p-review quote:To coincide with the launch, Intel will show off the drive for the first time at CitizenCon, a community gathering of Roberts Space Industries' Star Citizen players. As part of the partnership, the Optane SSD 900P will ship with a download code for an exclusive in-game Sabre Raven ship that has unique in-game capabilities. As you might have guessed, the Sabre Raven's specialty has to do with it's over the top speed. 
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peepsalot posted:So it has ~40% more IOPS than A 960 EVO NVMe, ~5% more sequential write, and ~22% *less* sequential read speed. Seems like you could get two EVOs for the price and outperform it. If all you are care about is sequential I/O at high queue depths then sure
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Which is a workload that doesn't really make sense for Optane anyway. I get the impression that Intel's kinda broken most of the tech media's benchmarks, and the writers just haven't figured it out yet. One reviewer complained it made benchmarking drives not fun because Optane performance doesn't crater under the same workload/patterns like NAND. Will probably take some time before consumers just automatically look at peak bandwidth numbers only and get confused at price discrepancy.
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Potato Salad posted:I have a 900p. Not everyone benefits from it, especially from a cost/performance standpoint. But there are very real benefits to some of the major enterprise/cloud/whatever players so I wouldn't say it's useless just because it's a drop in storage replacement.
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Potato Salad posted:I mean, my hpc is pretty special snowflake rdma and IB poo poo, and I can test just about any kind of workload scientifically imaginable on there Your piddly little cute workloads are nothing compared to actual real performance crushing use cases https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/7d8vev/intel_optane_900p_u2_280gb_benchmarked_on_linux/ quote:I have one and just seeing 20 chrome tabs open in nearly an instant is glorious.
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The industry has moved to using the same connector for different protocols/buses/whatever
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Let's talk about USB-C
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Klyith posted:Not really, the "bottleneck" of SATA isn't going to get any smaller. Not until we have another generation or two of SSDs come out that are so fast the sata bus actually becomes a real hinderance instead of the small penalty it is now. We are already there. Optane latency is already hindered by Windows interrupt handling, much less an ancient protocol designed around spinny drives. It's just that most client user won't notice the difference
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The Star Citizen bundle is kind of cool because you can sell the ship for good money to subsidize your very expensive but fast SSD
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The AIC Optanes don't marry you to any ecosystem except for the Star Citizen ones
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:That at 256GB with PCIE x 4 would own really hard. But that already exists....for a lot of money
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Ah sorry, in M2. I wouldn't even mind 128GB if it was PCIEx4 M2. Problem solved!!! 
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Wonder how 4 800ps compare to a single 900p in that
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Apple being thirsty for second suppliers isn't exactly unknown news to people right?
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40GB of DDR
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:Remember when UFS was surely going to be a thing then it just ended up being the internal replacement for eMMC What else were you expecting UFS to be?
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:They had mockups of a microsd-like card!!! That was for the Card Extension standard which is not the same as the base UFS standard. Being the replacement for embedded storage devices was an early goal
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