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  Skip here for the current topics to debate or attempt to influence your delegateArticle V of the Constitution posted:The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.  We're gonna re-write the constitution!The time is now, present day. A mixture of right-wing conservative states in conjunction with deep-pocketed interests like the Kochs have joined with a few vindictive liberal states and gotten the necessary 38 states needed to call for a Constitutional Convention. The game is set in modern day, but for the sake of discussion, ignore that it is an election year (though certainly if you'd like to re-legislate how elections will be run, by all means do so!) America hasn't had one of these since the first one, and nobody really knows what's up for grabs. What I'm proposing is a roleplaying play-by-post game where 10 lucky* posters will get to post as the delegates for a block of states. I've split them up into roughly equivalent populations; for the simplicity of this simulation/game, each poster who represents a bloc will have 1 vote. 1 other poster will be the Supreme Court, with the power to break ties, should they come up. I'm hoping to get one article voted on per week or so; I'll take the role of "Speaker" just to bring articles/amendments up to be fixed if no one does. Voting will be by email to npcdel@gmail.com; debate should generally happen in this thread, however vote-trading is totally acceptable. Feel free to declare a surrogate to vote for you if you don't think you can make the floor in a given week. Some topics you might want to bring up:
The blocs available are:  NCR - Cat_Herder Las Vegas Phoenix Salt Lake City Denver All the big square states  Midlands - My Imaginary GF St Louis Kansas City (both of 'em) Topeka Milwaukee Oklahoma City  Libertopia - DivineCoffeeBinge Chicago Pittsburgh Cleveland Cincinnati  Texas - Loel Texas  Appalachia - Random Paul Nashville Little Rock Lexington New Orleans  Cascadia - Seiferguy Seattle Portland San Francisco Los Angeles  CSA - Elmnt80 Atlanta Birmingham Miami Tampa  Tidewater - Quorum Charleston Research Triangle Park (Raleigh-Durham) Washington, DC Baltimore  New York City - Xiahou Dun NYC Also Staten Island! All of New York State I guess And New Jersey   New England - RagnarokAngel Boston Philadelphia Bangor  Kanakaua - Rafza Hawaii Alaska Puerto Rico Microstates like American Samoa, Marianas Island, etc. Post in this thread to claim a bloc. If the bloc you want is already claimed, post anyway and you'll be the surrogate in case the first claimee flakes after a week. Questions welcome! E: Thanks to Quorum for this map: 
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Schedule: 9/2: Week 1 (Ends 9/5): Delegation Arrives (everyone claims blocks by posting, initial intro/greet your fellow delegates) 9/6: Week 2 (Ends 9/12): Discussion of what topics to cover over the next ten weeks. Email of your top five things to amend/add/delete are due to npcdel@gmail.com 9/12: Article 1! The Congress! Make sure your favorite useful idiots can get their jobs done and bring home the earmarked pork! (I'll be linking this post to the post starting each week) Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Sep 12, 2016 |
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Sep 3, 2016 04:35
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Hmm, I'll bite. Wouldn't mind representing the great states of Delmarva(nc) in the Tidewater Bloc!
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Sep 3, 2016 06:09
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I'm interested. I'll represent Cascadia.
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Sep 3, 2016 07:01
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I would love to represent New England.
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Sep 3, 2016 08:08
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Tejas.
Loel fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Sep 5, 2016 |
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Sep 3, 2016 08:18
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I'd offer to do CSA/Texas (both places I've lived), but I'd be terrible at arguing policy and would probably ham it up too much. This could prove interesting if people take it seriously though.
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Sep 3, 2016 08:21
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Also first question, since this is a role play do we play as ourselves, make someone up, or maybe pick a real life politician/political personality?
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Sep 3, 2016 08:22
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 Delegates Hernandez and Hernandez The Great State of Tejas has submitted their platform. Loel fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Sep 7, 2016 |
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Sep 3, 2016 08:54
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hello I see you need a delegate from the New California Republic I just went to a big party in one of the oldest cities in America: Santa Fe let's do this poo poo edit: 
cat_herder fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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Sep 3, 2016 09:06
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May I make proposals to the thread without being a delegate? Edit: Screw it I'll be Appalachia. Louisiana being based on civil law instead of common law will probably let me get away with some poo poo. RandomPauI fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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Sep 3, 2016 09:24
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On second thought, I have a lot to do right now, an extra thing is probably not wise.
Olothreutes fucked around with this message at 10:44 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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Sep 3, 2016 10:00
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Put me on the list for New England.
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Sep 3, 2016 14:27
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Apparently needing mod approval, I thought this would be about a forums constitution.
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Sep 3, 2016 15:17
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So while creating a Debate & Discussion Constitution would of course be all sorts of fun, implementing Full Communism and Effort-Posting Earns Citizenship, it'll be more fun if we actually try to serve the interests of our regions primarily. Old-style regionalism is way more rad than sectarianism. 
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Quorum posted:So while creating a Debate & Discussion Constitution would of course be all sorts of fun, implementing Full Communism and Effort-Posting Earns Citizenship, it'll be more fun if we actually try to serve the interests of our regions primarily. Old-style regionalism is way more rad than sectarianism. That was my thinking, too. I've updated the OP to reflect a direct PM link to the various delegates, for when you guys need to do shady smoke-filled rooms deals. My hope was that you would soft-role-play as someone at least nominally representing the interests of (in order) your donor class, your industries, your political dynasties, and last (and least) your constituents. Having two items a week to debate and discuss will let vote-trading occur. DivineCoffeeBinge, New England was already claimed, but TriState (NYC/NJ/CT) is wide-open, if you'd rather have your own bloc than serve as an alternate.
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Sep 3, 2016 16:06
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Count me in for NYC! As a resident of Harlem and a turbo nerd, I feel qualified.
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Sep 3, 2016 16:44
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:That was my thinking, too. I've updated the OP to reflect a direct PM link to the various delegates, for when you guys need to do shady smoke-filled rooms deals. I'd rather serve as an alternate; I know NE and could effectively roleplay its interests a bit more than the Tri-State area. ...can alternates kibbitz and make suggestions to whoever's running their delegation, come to think of it?
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I'd rather serve as an alternate; I know NE and could effectively roleplay its interests a bit more than the Tri-State area. Sure, that's how it was in real life, so why not? ALL SPOTS FILLED However, if you're interested in being an alternate should the original delegate not respond/post, definitely post here! Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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Sep 3, 2016 17:20
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Can I rely on you to not doxx the hell out of me, or should I use my SA-only bullshit cut-out e-mail?
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Sep 3, 2016 17:25
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Xiahou Dun posted:Can I rely on you to not doxx the hell out of me, or should I use my SA-only bullshit cut-out e-mail? I give you my no-doxx guarantee, though you could send via PM if you don't trust an 11-year poster
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Sep 3, 2016 17:57
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Nah that was more me giving you a heads up that the e-mail address is going to be [myactualname]@gmail. Super excited for this! (O and I do have PMs if people want to talk to me.)
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Incidentally, because I am at work and it is deathly dull, I created a map with my interpretation of the blocs as set forth in the OP. Feel free to throw it up there for those of us who are visually oriented if you like, or let me know if I got something terribly wrong and have offended the touchy people of Shitsville, Kansas or something. WARNING: loving ENORMOUS (just like America  )
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Quorum posted:Incidentally, because I am at work and it is deathly dull, I created a map with my interpretation of the blocs as set forth in the OP. Feel free to throw it up there for those of us who are visually oriented if you like, or let me know if I got something terribly wrong and have offended the touchy people of Shitsville, Kansas or something. This is gorgeous and just about exactly right, only change is Hawaii has elected to vote with New England because reasons. e: lol you updated it.
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Sep 3, 2016 18:23
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:This is gorgeous and just about exactly right, only change is Hawaii has elected to vote with New England because reasons. The good people of Tidewater have no idea what you're talking about! 
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Sep 3, 2016 18:26
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Louisiana should probably be csa/texas instead of its current group. There ain't much for mountains down in da bayou. Edit: Culturally, they are probably closer to the coastal csa states. Economically, their interests would likely be closer to the eastern half of texas. (The only half that matters) Also, volunteering as a CSA backup dude. 
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Sep 3, 2016 18:28
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:
I am suddenly struck by the thought that Philadelphia being represented by the NE bloc is perhaps a little unusual, given that the rest of its state is within Libertopia and from a geographical standpoint it's got the NYC bloc in its way (E: and might be culturally closer to Tidewater). I mean, if we still want to do it that way it's cool (if Hawaii can hook up with NE so can Philly), but I wanted to double-check on the apportionment. ...also if no one has claimed them within 24 hours I'll swap out my NE Alternate status to be the Libertopian rep. If I pay closer attention to the needs of New England than of the states I'm supposedly representing, well, it's not like that's a thing that's ever happened at a Constitutional Convention before, right? Muah hah hah...
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I am suddenly struck by the thought that Philadelphia being represented by the NE bloc is perhaps a little unusual, given that the rest of its state is within Libertopia and from a geographical standpoint it's got the NYC bloc in its way (E: and might be culturally closer to Tidewater). I made Elmt80 the delegate for the CSA since nobody's claimed it yet, but if someone wants it, Elmt80 did originally want to just be an advisor/delegate. If you take Libertopia (originally titled Rustopia, but that was a bit on the nose. I'm thinking now it makes more sense?), that means we can start the show?
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:So I wasn't really sure what to do up there, since there's so many massive metropolises and I wanted to keep the number of blocs at 10. Philly and Boston were both full of terrible sports fans, so I moved Philly to the NE bloc; I don't think Philly has much in common with either NYC or the rest of the Rust Belt (Libertopia), but I'm happy to shift stuff around. Might make more sense to shift Charleston into Dixie (it makes more sense there than with Tidewater; SC is definitely closer to Georgia than to North Carolina) and add Philadelphia into Tidewater, since it's got more in common with Baltimore, DC, and the major southern metropolises of the Boswash than with NYC or Boston. But then I'm biased!
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IF YOU ARE NOT A DELEGATE! Check this map for what bloc you are in (per your IRL home) and post in this thread for the constitutional things that matter most to you: (thanks to Quorum) The Delegates are set! Again, if you'd like to be an alternate (in case your bloc's delegate flakes out), let me know via PM. Your bloc leaders are (with links to PM them):  NCR - Cat_Herder  Midlands - My Imaginary GF  Libertopia - DivineCoffeeBinge  Texas - Loel  Appalachia - Random Paul  Cascadia - Seiferguy  CSA - Elmnt80  Tidewater - Quorum  New York City - Xiahou Dun  New England - RagnarokAngel [img]  [/img]Kanakaua - Rafza Delegates, you have until September 12th to submit your list of things you'd like to make sure make it in to Constitution 2: Law Harder Some things to keep in mind: The constitution covers the following issues:
Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Sep 5, 2016 |
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Sep 3, 2016 23:11
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I'm going to be on vacation September 10-17, and probably won't have good access to internet, so if someone wants to volunteer is as a backup delegate for Cascadia while I'm out, that would be cool.
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Sep 3, 2016 23:12
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Have fun with MIGF, ya'll. I'm now very eager to see him demolish any and all progressive changes you want to make to the Constitution under the guise of "true progressivism". 
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Sep 3, 2016 23:56
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For the purposes of voting, do we need a simple majority (6/10), or two thirds? (7/10)
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Sep 4, 2016 00:12
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Loel posted:For the purposes of voting, do we need a simple majority (6/10), or two thirds? (7/10) E: Actually, per PM: My Imaginary GF posted:Mr. Adams, please trust your convention delegates. Let us put it to a vote what constitutes a majority vote! EDIT EDIT:  : I put it to the delegation!
Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Sep 4, 2016 |
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Sep 4, 2016 00:13
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You can have El Paso if you vote in Tejas' favor 
Loel fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Sep 5, 2016 |
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Sep 4, 2016 00:21
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Can I get a clarification if CT is NYC or New England? Want to know which PM box to pester 
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Sep 4, 2016 00:50
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SpaceCadetBob posted:Can I get a clarification if CT is NYC or New England? Want to know which PM box to pester Well it's orange on the map so I assume you bug me.
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Sep 4, 2016 00:53
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SpaceCadetBob posted:Can I get a clarification if CT is NYC or New England? Want to know which PM box to pester It's New York's domain. Yell at Xiahao Dun
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Sep 4, 2016 00:53
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Totally interested in being an alternate for Cascadia, but I'm certain Seiferguy has our best, teriyaki infused interests at heart.
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SpaceCadetBob posted:Can I get a clarification if CT is NYC or New England? Want to know which PM box to pester Yep that was my error sorry! PS I am more than happy to receive the demands/entreaties/weird political rants of Delmarvanc goons. But I've already got a small list of regional priorities off the bat; can anyone say DC statehood? 
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