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ProfessorMurder posted:You seem mad about comic book movies. Calm down and maybe smoke a bowl for fucks sake. Smoking a bowl was how I started to give a gently caress about comic book movies. Don't do this. Applewhite posted:It's like Dragonball Z meets Bojack Horseman. You're right that Invincible is good but this is like the worst way you could possibly describe it. "Eating foie gras made from rat droppings out of a brony's taint" sounds more appealing than what you described. Cocksmith posted:superman is a boring mary sue no poo poo superman movies suck This sentiment is old enough to draw social security, yet the character persists. I wonder why that is? phasmid posted:Why don't they go for broke and just Jack Kirby the poo poo out of everything. Marvel will get pissed and then we can have a trippy-as-gently caress superhero movie instead of this goth poo poo. The movies are managed by people who could not care one iota less about using superheroes and are only doing so because Marvel is making stupid amounts of money. This wouldn't be a bad thing if they were good at doing their own thing, but they're very much not.
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Applewhite posted:I don't think it does... Spider-Man's earthiness in a loose Superman skin with a finite ending and thus no compulsion about breaking its own world for the sake of a good story. Cocksmith posted:same as most things, children and nostalgic adults and? Lots of nostalgic properties come and go yet Superman is not only still big business, it's big business that promotes a ton of strong emotion from a lot of people. There's no way they can all be manchildren.
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Tiberius Christ posted:Superman should be for kids only and I don't mean that as an insult This, except that doesn't therefore mean Superman has to be stupid. There's a pervasive and deeply immature belief that for something to be adult it has to embrace the fact that most of existence is a brutal march towards death in which everything good is stripped away piecemeal, but god-loving-forbid it also embrace the fact that the bad things don't invalidate the good parts and that the pointlessness of it all is all the more reason to make good with yourself. This has been echoed in decent superhero media for decades. A Superman movie isn't about his punchy-man or saving-person exploits. That stuff is punctuation and fun visuals. The real meat is in watching a man who has every right to be an rear end in a top hat say "no, no that's not the way I want to spend my time" and fight off would be god-kings of the universe like Lex Luthor, Darkseid, or Brainiac and leading the class of Godlings like Batman and Wonder Woman who could easily ruin the Earth in a few days. This poo poo is simple, but it's not stupid and judging by the fact that we're three Captain America movies deep and people worldwide seem to like the guy there's a large audience for that message. The Tao Jones posted:Serious question: why do they keep handing this guy the ball and then acting confused when the end product sucks poo poo? He can't direct his way out of a paper bag and keeps proving it over and over and over. Someone up high really really likes him, market data keeps suggesting that aiming for the worst part of the manboy market is the way to go, and it's only recently that they noticed that while his stuff makes money it's not sustainable and they could have been making way more money without him. Plus David Goyer loving suuuuuuuucccccckkkksssss
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Sep 9, 2016 14:33
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Zorodius posted:The problem isn't that Superman can do everything, it's that he does do everything. That's not just a character, it's a storyline, and a bad one. A story about Superman loving up is instantly more interesting.  Too many versions of Superman are too afraid to touch the "icon" part of the character unless they want to tear it down in a fit of "gently caress you dad" like Snyder did. It's fiction--just because he's an alien doesn't mean he has to be written as a cold, unfeeling bastard. He's a metaphor for a middle-class farm kid with too much going for him to "just' work the fields going to the big city and dealing with corruption of power. Functionally he's a human who still fucks up, and watching him struggle to live up to his own projected image is a great story in and of itself.
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