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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

Vastarien posted:

"We hate this dumbass religion that is a spinoff of our dumbass religion which is a spinoff of another dumbass religion."

proof that from bad things worse things can come

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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
this jizz ya thing certainly sounds good but that's because I'm gay

BIG PUFFY NIPS
Mar 7, 2007

College Slice

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Well, also if anything is associated with radical Buddhism it is self-immolation, which is a little less threatening somehow.

self immolation and suicide bombing are the same thing when you think about it but see if you can guess which religion has a solid foundation of ethical thought hehehehe

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

the trump tutelage posted:

1. We hate you, first and foremost, because you
are disbelievers; you reject the oneness of Allah –
whether you realize it or not – by making partners
for Him in worship, you blaspheme against Him,
claiming that He has a son, you fabricate lies against
His prophets and messengers, and you indulge in all
manner of devilish practices. It is for this reason that
we were commanded to openly declare our hatred for
you and our enmity towards you. “There has already
been for you an excellent example in Abraham and
those with him, when they said to their people, ‘Indeed,
we are disassociated from you and from whatever
you worship other than Allah. We have rejected
you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity
and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone’”
(Al-Mumtahanah 4). Furthermore, just as your disbelief
is the primary reason we hate you, your disbelief
is the primary reason we fight you, as we have
been commanded to fight the disbelievers until they
submit to the authority of Islam, either by becoming
Muslims, or by paying jizyah – for those afforded this
option – and living in humiliation under the rule of
the Muslims. Thus, even if you were to stop fighting
us, your best-case scenario in a state of war would be
that we would suspend our attacks against you – if we
deemed it necessary – in order to focus on the closer
and more immediate threats, before eventually resuming
our campaigns against you. Apart from the option
of a temporary truce, this is the only likely scenario
that would bring you fleeting respite from our attacks.
So in the end, you cannot bring an indefinite halt to
our war against you. At most, you could only delay it
temporarily. “And fight them until there is no fitnah
[paganism] and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah”
(Al-Baqarah 193).

2. We hate you because your secular, liberal societies
permit the very things that Allah has prohibited
while banning many of the things He has permitted,
a matter that doesn’t concern you because you
Christian disbelief and paganism
separate between religion and state, thereby granting
supreme authority to your whims and desires via the
legislators you vote into power. In doing so, you desire
to rob Allah of His right to be obeyed and you wish to
usurp that right for yourselves. “Legislation is not but
for Allah” (Yusuf 40). Your secular liberalism has led
you to tolerate and even support “gay rights,” to allow
alcohol, drugs, fornication, gambling, and usury to
become widespread, and to encourage the people to
mock those who denounce these filthy sins and vices.
As such, we wage war against you to stop you from
spreading your disbelief and debauchery – your secularism
and nationalism, your perverted liberal values,
your Christianity and atheism – and all the depravity
and corruption they entail. You’ve made it your mission
to “liberate” Muslim societies; we’ve made it our
mission to fight off your influence and protect mankind
from your misguided concepts and your deviant
way of life.

3. In the case of the atheist fringe, we hate you
and wage war against you because you disbelieve in
the existence of your Lord and Creator. You witness
the extraordinarily complex makeup of created beings,
and the astonishing and inexplicably precise physical
laws that govern the entire universe, but insist that
they all came about through randomness and that one
should be faulted, mocked, and ostracized for recognizing
that the astonishing
signs we witness day after day
are the creation of the Wise,
All-Knowing Creator and not
the result of accidental occurrence.
“Or were they created
by nothing, or were they the
creators [of themselves]?” (AtTur
35). Your disbelief in your
Creator further leads you to
deny the Day of Judgment,
claiming that “you only live
once.” “Those who disbelieve
have claimed that they will never
be resurrected. Say, ‘Yes, by
my Lord, you will surely be resurrected;
then you will surely
be informed of what you did.
And that, for Allah, is easy’”
(At-Taghabun 7).

4. We hate you for your
crimes against Islam and wage
war against you to punish you
for your transgressions against our religion. As long as
your subjects continue to mock our faith, insult the
prophets of Allah – including Noah, Abraham, Moses,
Jesus, and Muhammad  – burn the Quran, and
openly vilify the laws of the Shari’ah, we will continue
to retaliate, not with slogans and placards, but with
bullets and knives.

5. We hate you for your crimes against the Muslims;
your drones and fighter jets bomb, kill, and
maim our people around the world, and your puppets
in the usurped lands of the Muslims oppress, torture,
and wage war against anyone who calls to the truth.
As such, we fight you to stop you from killing our
men, women, and children, to liberate those of them
whom you imprison and torture, and to take revenge
for the countless Muslims who’ve suffered as a result
of your deeds.

6. We hate you for invading our lands and fight
you to repel you and drive you out. As long as there
is an inch of territory left for us to reclaim, jihad will
continue to be a personal obligation on every single
Muslim.

What’s important to understand here is that although
some might argue that your foreign policies
are the extent of what drives our hatred, this particular
reason for hating you is secondary, hence the
An example of the perversion the West seeks to spread
reason we addressed it at the end of the above list. The
fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning
us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our
lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary
reason for hating you will not cease to exist until
you embrace Islam. Even if you were to pay jizyah
and live under the authority of Islam in humiliation,
we would continue to hate you. No doubt, we would
stop fighting you then as we would stop fighting any
disbelievers who enter into a covenant with us, but we
would not stop hating you.

What’s equally if not more important to understand
is that we fight you, not simply to punish and deter
you, but to bring you true freedom in this life and
salvation in the Hereafter, freedom from being enslaved
to your whims and desires as well as those of your
clergy and legislatures, and salvation by worshiping
your Creator alone and following His messenger. We
fight you in order to bring you out from the darkness
of disbelief and into the light of Islam, and to liberate
you from the constraints of living for the sake of the
worldly life alone so that you may enjoy both the blessings
of the worldly life and the bliss of the Hereafter.

The gist of the matter is that there is indeed a rhyme
to our terrorism, warfare, ruthlessness, and brutality.
As much as some liberal journalist would like you to
believe that we do what we do because we’re simply
monsters with no logic behind our course of action,
the fact is that we continue to wage – and escalate –
a calculated war that the West thought it had ended
several years ago. We continue dragging you further
and further into a swamp you thought you’d already
escaped only to realize that you’re stuck even deeper
within its murky waters… And we do so while offering
you a way out on our terms. So you can continue
to believe that those “despicable terrorists” hate
you because of your lattes and your Timberlands, and
continue spending ridiculous amounts of money to
try to prevail in an unwinnable war, or you can accept
reality and recognize that we will never stop hating
you until you embrace Islam, and will never stop fighting
you until you’re ready to leave the swamp of warfare
and terrorism through the exits we provide, the
very exits put forth by our Lord for the People of the
Scripture: Islam, jizyah, or – as a last means of fleeting
respite – a temporary truce.

hey yo that beatles song called 'helter skelter' predicts an upcoming race war. just thought u should know

Roylicious
Feb 21, 2012

Braver than the cops
ain't afraid of no chaps
If they steppin up on me
I just start bustin some caps
Hail Satan

Mukulu
Jul 14, 2006

Stop. Drop. Shut 'em down open up shop.
Aw, I work with a bunch of Muslims. They're cool.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Mukulu posted:

Aw, I work with a bunch of Muslims. They're cool.

Wouldn't have taken you for a member of The Foundation, Mukulu.

Inshallah

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
culture is a lie to avoid the revelatory pain of change

a shiny rock
Nov 13, 2009


geez are we really going back to this oldgbs poo poo with fuckin calpital letters and everything

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Parallax Scroll posted:

geez are we really going back to this oldgbs poo poo with fuckin calpital letters and everything

I'm a traditionalist.

BIG PUFFY NIPS
Mar 7, 2007

College Slice

Parallax Scroll posted:

geez are we really going back to this oldgbs poo poo with fuckin calpital letters and everything

post how you want dont make me post a dissertation about personality in posting style

Cake Smashing Boob
Nov 5, 2008

I support black genocide
Nurgle, Slaanesh, Mohammed, Tzeentch

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Cake Smashing Boob posted:

Nurgle, Slaanesh, Mohammed, Tzeentch

BLOOD FOR THE MOON GOD!

Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH

Johnny Aztec posted:

BLOOD FOR THE MOON GOD!

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

*posts IS propaganda*

boy they really fuckin hate us

*profound understanding of modern national security issues*

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Vastarien posted:

"We hate this dumbass religion that is a spinoff of our dumbass religion which is a spinoff of another dumbass religion."

everything is a spinoff of the original religion where everyone does what I say hth

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Strategic Tea posted:

*posts IS propaganda*

boy they really fuckin hate us

*profound understanding of modern national security issues*

idk that propaganda is pretty straightforward so

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Strategic Tea posted:

everything is a spinoff of the original religion where everyone does what I say hth

All hail the hugest prick! :worship:

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013




I almost included that in the OP but I thought it would be gauche.

Boof Bonser
Jan 26, 2015

nvj is touched by your generosity!
well, actually

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat
islam is the light

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

End Of Worlds posted:

islam is the light

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
praise be to alladin

BIG PUFFY NIPS
Mar 7, 2007

College Slice

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

To be fair Jafar's foreign policy is pretty dick.

Garcin
Jun 15, 2000
As I grow older, I continue to wonder if being a part of something is better than being a part of nothing.

The differences between religions are all semantics. There is no end to studying and practicing religion other than simply being a part of something.

Do you want to be a part of something, or a part of nothing? Is your something better than the something of others? How convincing is your argument and how many people follow you?

I am a regretful atheist.

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.




splash of mind control arrays

gg

BIG PUFFY NIPS
Mar 7, 2007

College Slice

Garcin posted:

As I grow older, I continue to wonder if being a part of something is better than being a part of nothing.

The differences between religions are all semantics. There is no end to studying and practicing religion other than simply being a part of something.

Do you want to be a part of something, or a part of nothing? Is your something better than the something of others? How convincing is your argument and how many people follow you?

I am a regretful atheist.

being an atheist is shameful by nature you dont know there isnt some magic sky man and i think the vast majority of the religious dont honestly believe it either so let them have their intellectual safe space

Garcin
Jun 15, 2000

Sonofsilversign posted:

being an atheist is shameful by nature you dont know there isnt some magic sky man and i think the vast majority of the religious dont honestly believe it either so let them have their intellectual safe space

if every atheist accepted their fate, ticket sales for bungie jumping and sky diving would go through the roof.

it's all one big safe space, I agree. well said.

extra stout
Feb 24, 2005

ISILDUR's ERR

so if i dont live in agrabah and im not a muslim, again it sounds like what this thread is getting at is that i'm becoming more and more popular as other groups de-rank

BIG PUFFY NIPS
Mar 7, 2007

College Slice

extra stout posted:

so if i dont live in agrabah and im not a muslim, again it sounds like what this thread is getting at is that i'm becoming more and more popular as other groups de-rank

dunno your religion but muslims are probably gonna outnumber you soon so id start figuring out which mecca is in now

Garcin
Jun 15, 2000

Sonofsilversign posted:

dunno your religion but muslims are probably gonna outnumber you soon so id start figuring out which mecca is in now

How so? Muslim nations are notorious for only entering into blood-red-ocean industries such as oil, tourism, air travel, etc. So far, zero innovation. Other than historic things like math and being the founding pocket of civilization.

I'm not sure if social and religious power can ever overrule economic power.

The sting of defeat eventually loses it's luster.

BIG PUFFY NIPS
Mar 7, 2007

College Slice

Garcin posted:

How so? Muslim nations are notorious for only entering into blood-red-ocean industries such as oil, tourism, air travel, etc. So far, zero innovation. Other than historic things like math and being the founding pocket of civilization.

I'm not sure if social and religious power can ever overrule economic power.

The sting of defeat eventually loses it's luster.

not according to the numbers islam fastest growing religion allah number 1

Garcin
Jun 15, 2000
20 people making 1 dollar an hour become 40 people making two dollars an hour.

compared to one dude making 1 million dollars an hour.

be afraid. they are coming for your virgins.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Garcin posted:

As I grow older, I continue to wonder if being a part of something is better than being a part of nothing.

The differences between religions are all semantics. There is no end to studying and practicing religion other than simply being a part of something.

Do you want to be a part of something, or a part of nothing? Is your something better than the something of others? How convincing is your argument and how many people follow you?

I am a regretful atheist.

Are you sure you aren't just having a stroke?

Garcin
Jun 15, 2000

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Are you sure you aren't just having a stroke?
You can't actually have a stroke without another person identifying you as having a stroke.

Welcome to costco, I love you.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Garcin posted:

20 people making 1 dollar an hour become 40 people making two dollars an hour.

compared to one dude making 1 million dollars an hour.

be afraid. they are coming for your virgins.

what?

Garcin
Jun 15, 2000
Herfindahl index.

Garcin
Jun 15, 2000
Chunky.

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Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Garcin posted:

Herfindahl index.

Herfindahl is one of Thor's friends, right?

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