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BIG PUFFY NIPS
Mar 7, 2007

College Slice

Mange Mite posted:

All the most secular western countries have negative birth rates and would be shrinking except for immigration, which is mostly muslim

These countries are also facing demographic crises in the near future due to super low native birth rates

yah i know bout the low birth rates im interested in the rise of secularism is a cultural family thing or a adult conversion thing

also lol at demographic crisis

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Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



le jeebus myth

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



hello, i'm jeebus, and i'm magic. LOL!

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

I was born where aminals are usually born because I was a magic baby

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



i know better than u, so listen to everyting i say, hahah! - the buddha, said while lolling @ the ppl burning incense and sitting beneath trees and stuff.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

khwarezm posted:

Countries with high birthrates face worse demographic crises since current trends mean mechanization and globalization will eviscerate employment for unskilled and poorly educated workers even in the third world, which is made worse by the massive worldwide shift away from agriculture, poor social welfare in many countries and ominous spectre of the effects of global warming that will result in huge unemployment and worsening economic situations for tons of young people in those countries with high birth rates.

No because they will all just move to the dying atheist countries

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

Mange Mite posted:

No because they will all just move to the dying atheist countries

Actually Atheism doesn't match up that well to birth rate (compare Poland to France, or Portugal to Sweden). Additionally the secularity of a country can change dramatically over the decades.

Liberal_L33t
Apr 9, 2005

by WE B Boo-ourgeois

Mange Mite posted:

All the most secular western countries have negative birth rates and would be shrinking except for immigration, which is mostly muslim

These countries are also facing demographic crises in the near future due to super low native birth rates

Are you actually for real making this argument? Get the gently caress out with that bullshit and look up "carrying capacity"

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
I saw that movie Book of Eli where future society had banned all religion but then denzel freeman or whatever had a bible he was trying to preserve and as far as I am concerned he was the bad guy of the movie. all kinds of people died because he had to have a bible. See? Religion sucks.,

nimh
Sep 18, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Never been a more deserved winner. Good job muslims

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



GORDON posted:

I saw that movie Book of Eli where future society had banned all religion but then denzel freeman or whatever had a bible he was trying to preserve and as far as I am concerned he was the bad guy of the movie. all kinds of people died because he had to have a bible. See? Religion sucks.,

Personally I rely on Bioshock 2 for most of my religious insights.

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot
fedoras are worse than burkas though :confused:

KKKoras
Sep 18, 2016

by zen death robot

mdm posted:

fedoras are worse than burkas though

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

yeah they're equal though in the sense that neither should be worn in a bank, or on a license

KKKoras
Sep 18, 2016

by zen death robot

The Protagonist posted:

yeah they're equal though in the sense that neither should be worn in a bank, or on a license

i dont think they should be worn ever but anyone that had a fedora phase is probably hosed

trench coats were much cooler

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot

The Protagonist posted:

yeah they're equal though in the sense that neither should be worn in a bank, or on a license

lol as if muslim women drive

KKKoras
Sep 18, 2016

by zen death robot

mdm posted:

lol as if muslim women drive

i drive

nimh
Sep 18, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

mdm posted:

lol as if muslim women drive

Best one: She gets pulled over, claims cop abused her & tried to rip off her burka but it was filmed. Sentence of 6 months prison for false statements. Acquitted because they cant prove she made the claims. That person was wearing a burka

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/woman-convicted-of-police-veillifting-lie-set-to-go-free-20110620-1gbzk.html

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot
not as funny as a sovcit

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



mdm posted:

not as funny as a sovcit

Not much is, to be fair.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Liberal_L33t posted:

Are you actually for real making this argument? Get the gently caress out with that bullshit and look up "carrying capacity"

lol you dumb bro

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013
I just watched this movie called Stargate, and I'm pretty sure that Ra is the worst god to worship, even if he's pretty.

Cake Smashing Boob
Nov 5, 2008

I support black genocide

Mange Mite posted:

No because they will all just move to the dying atheist countries

A cursory glance at fertility rates, religiosity and immigration in Europe don't seem to support this (w heavily atheist countries represented at both bottom and top re: fertility)

also, which of "the most secular western countries" receive mostly/a majority Muslim immigrants?

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
atheists are morons

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


hail satan

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Day Man posted:

hail satan

one wonders about the metaphysics of this poo poo

Cake Smashing Boob
Nov 5, 2008

I support black genocide


It's cool how the cold war was basically honest muscular socialism vs decadent evangelical/mohammedan US capitalist terror

shame the bad guys won

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

Mange Mite posted:

No because they will all just move to the dying atheist countries

Lol if you believe this. Western world is full steam ahead towards the warm embrace of fascism. Give it 5 years and those migrants are going to be running in to barb wire fences and machine gun nests.

Carmant
Nov 23, 2015


Treadmill? What's that? Is that some kind of cake?


Being atheist is stupid.. there are so many gods and you are too stupid to even pick one

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

They're not going to be any more popular after trying to blow Manhattan up last night.

Zidrooner
Jul 20, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
There is no way Islamists will get any foothold of power in the west by virtue of fertility or size of population. Everyone, from gas station attendants to high powered executives, either tolerates their culture at best or reviles them at worst. If somehow an ordnance is passed requiring women to wear burqas outside or forbidding alcohol or whatever, people are going to be firebombing mosques. This is true for both a fascist future west or a socialist future west.

H.H
Oct 24, 2006

August is the Cruelest Month
I haven't read all of this thread, have the phrases "goat fuckers", "moon god", or "religion of rest in piss" already been mentioned?

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Zidrooner posted:

There is no way Islamists will get any foothold of power in the west by virtue of fertility or size of population. Everyone, from gas station attendants to high powered executives, either tolerates their culture at best or reviles them at worst.

when a group's population growth is larger than other groups they eventually become most or all of "everyone" which means your second sentence would no longer be true.

rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe

H.H posted:

I haven't read all of this thread, have the phrases "goat fuckers", "moon god", or "religion of rest in piss" already been mentioned?

not until an israeli showed up actually

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

rezatahs posted:

not until an israeli showed up actually

lol

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
There are so many good Star Treks

like when Troi gets immaculately impregnated and Worf recommends an abortion

or when the Klingon Church makes a clone of Klingon Jesus and threatens to overthrow Chancellor Gowron

Zidrooner
Jul 20, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Earwicker posted:

when a group's population growth is larger than other groups they eventually become most or all of "everyone" which means your second sentence would no longer be true.

The original "everyone", which is responsible for the host country's culture, laws, and wealth will not allow their power to move into the hands of newcomers simply because they are more numerous. They would abandon democracy if necessary.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Zidrooner posted:

The original "everyone", which is responsible for the host country's culture, laws, and wealth will not allow their power to move into the hands of newcomers simply because they are more numerous. They would abandon democracy if necessary.

not if enough of them are set on committing suicide

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Zidrooner posted:

The original "everyone", which is responsible for the host country's culture, laws, and wealth will not allow their power to move into the hands of newcomers simply because they are more numerous. They would abandon democracy if necessary.

I agree, I'm just pointing out that the whole "everyone dislikes them" thing only holds true for certain values of "everyone". they will all eventually abandon democracy at some point regardless, not necessarily for anything related to this issue

I would also point out that Jews were openly reviled by just about everyone around us for thousands of years, but now we're running a lot of poo poo, and that's without even having a big population

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OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
For some reason the ruling elite in these countries openly reviles their own culture and wants it to die

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