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George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this


Next deadline: Spring 1907



Diplomacy is a strategic board game for 7 players. Designed for optimal anger and saltiness, it is distinct from other Avalon Hill-type wargames because it is a game devoid of chance. Taking place on a European map of pre-WWI nations and provinces, each player's actions resolve simultaneously each turn, creating a huge opportunity for alliances, strategic negotiation, and tactical backstabbing.

We are playing with the Milan variant. If you've never played Diplomacy before that doesn't really mean much, just that there are a few minor map changes that give Italy much-needed starting strength. (If you want to see how much nerds are into Diplomacy like they are into chess, here you go.

How does the game work? Each player will play a major European pre-WWI power. Before every turn, there will be a communication phase for negotiation. Before the deadline, each player will submit a set of actions for their units secretly, which are then resolved at the same time. That means there's no element of chance. No dice, or any advantage of going first. If two (or more) players are trying to enter the same space, they'll just bounce each other unless they have help, either from their own units or another player's. To win you have to talk, ally, backstab and command your way to European supremacy.

Here's some stuff I shamelessly stole:

Pinterest Mom posted:

Each game year is divided into four seasons: Spring, summer, fall, winter. Spring and fall are main phases, where you'll order your units to move. Summer and winter are adjustment phases, where we clean up after the main phases. At the end of each year, we also have to adjust the number of units - each supply centre (the provinces with black dots) can support one unit, so players will build/disband units accordingly.

The win the game, a player must individually control a majority of supply centres. The game can also end in a draw if the remaining players unanimously agree to it. Players with no supply centres in winter get eliminated.

If you don't know how to play, this is a good place to start. You'll want to learn the different types of orders (Move, support, convoy, hold), how supporting works, and the general format to submit orders and how they'll be resolved

Here's the official rulebook, which goes into much more detail and where you can learn about the Kiel canal.

You probably don't need to learn about the Kiel canal, but it won't hurt!

You can change your orders anytime before the deadline. Just resubmit them to me. If I am not sure on something in your orders, I will ask about it, obvi. You can submit your orders to me on PM on Discord or SA, it doesn't matter to me.

On order submission, write them however you want. I am not a stickler for orders syntax. As long as I don't genuinely misinterpret your order, nothing bad should happen. I will never forfeit an order unless you literally vomit in my chow.

The winner of this game will win a 40$ Amazon gift card! There will be no award for the runner-up. As PMom states above, the game can end in a draw if all players agree. You can still do that, but nobody will win the 40$.

No toxxing, no betting, no editing posts, no copy/pasting chatlogs and no being a jerk or importing drama! Full out of thread communication is allowed.

If you are a spectator, no posting about game or player strategy. Normal posts, cheerleading posts or roleplaying as a refugee of world war posts are fine.



Player List

CCKeane - Russia
Max - Germany
Somberbrero - Italy
Pinterest Mom - France
Tremendous Taste - Turkey
peramene - Austria-Hungary
Kashuno - Great Britain

Maps of the Game

Starting Map
Spring 1901 | Orders / Map
Fall 1901 | Orders / Map
Winter 1901 | Builds / Map
Spring 1902 | Orders / Map
Fall 1902 | Orders / Map
Winter 1902 | Builds / Map

Other Stuff

A sicknasty player's guide, produced by Avalon Hill, the publisher of the game. Very helpful as a sort of introductory strategy column.

Abstact Diplomacy map, to easily visualize moves. Edited to reflect the Milan variant.


(og map abstract)
The Diplomacy Archive strategy library where you can read up on your grognard fantasies.

There are a few youtube tutorials for Diplomacy if you want to watch it instead of reading it. I tried to find a good one for this spot but they’re all kind of meh, so just google “How to play diplomacy” if you want to do it that way.

Confessional Link

George Kansas fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Oct 26, 2016

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George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this


To all 7 players: Please post your country preferences in order from most to least played. For instance, EFTAGIR would mean you want to play England the most and Russia the least.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?


Grimey Drawer

I will play this

Max
Nov 30, 2002



I have never played this game before.

GTEFRIA

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



Following the hell out of this, and wanting to be in round 2 if I have time.

Max
Nov 30, 2002



Well I may have made a mistake, looking at that map now. Germany is ripe for being destroyed immediately.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010


POSTING
Champion
of
Something Awful


BottleKnight posted:

To all 7 players: Please post your country preferences in order from most to least played. For instance, EFTAGIR would mean you want to play England the most and Russia the least.

TEFRAGI

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009



please, nobody use the kiel canal

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009



FGTERIA

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

The Pit Awaits


IEFRGAT

I'm down for whatever though. Biting the bullet on Italy since I presume no one else will.

Referee
Aug 25, 2004

"Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)



drat, I would have played, having never played Diplomacy before, but instead I'll just observe and see if I like it enough to play next time.

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this


Max posted:

Well I may have made a mistake, looking at that map now. Germany is ripe for being destroyed immediately.

you can change your prefs if you want but german strategy owns, spoilers for this link I am a huge nerd http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/strategy/articles/turnbull-germany.htm

Max
Nov 30, 2002



BottleKnight posted:

you can change your prefs if you want but german strategy owns, spoilers for this link I am a huge nerd http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/strategy/articles/turnbull-germany.htm

Nah, I will respect the random poo poo I typed.

Max
Nov 30, 2002



Also hi peramene, I have never played with you before.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009



Didn't peramene pledge to never play a game again

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this


Couple of Announcements for Players and Viewers Alike

1. For Players: We have set up a channel in the SA Mafia discord for you to chat and be able to easily PM each other/make other servers for chatrooms. You can by all means use other mediums to chat (facebook, a doc, PM, w/e) but this might give you a good start and other people in the discord server can see it but not type in the channel. PM me if you need an invite link, I don't think Taste or Somber are in it.

2. For Viewers: I will be setting up a spectator doc, I just haven't done it yet.

3. For Both: I will be doing confessionals for this game. I don't know if it really needs it but I think it will be fun! I will link the google form after the country assignments go out.

Thanks.

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this


Pinterest Mom posted:

Didn't peramene pledge to never play a game again

Forum reality game, not party game or board game!!

Though between prize money, confessionals and alliances/backstabbing I have made this particular board game somewhat similar to an FRG.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?


Grimey Drawer

TFERGIA

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply



I'm going to give my preferences when I get home.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?


Grimey Drawer

CCKeane posted:

I'm going to give my preferences when I get home.

Keane's preferences: POOBUTT

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010


POSTING
Champion
of
Something Awful


BEBEKID

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this


FMLYGUY

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?


Grimey Drawer


Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

The Pit Awaits


I believe it's somewhere in the op strategy link, but for anyone who is unfamiliar with the game or just their country, this guide is very helpful.

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this


Somberbrero posted:

I believe it's somewhere in the op strategy link, but for anyone who is unfamiliar with the game or just their country, this guide is very helpful.

Oh hell yeah, I haven't seen this in a long time. I'll add it to the OP.

peramene
Oct 13, 2015

Just peramene.


Max posted:

Also hi peramene, I have never played with you before.

hi! <3

Pinterest Mom - I appreciate your concern for everyone's safety but BK assures me it won't be possible to torture any of you in a little harmless DIplomacy

That said, Taste and I are obviously going to start some kind of backstabbing liar's alliance and start a nuclear war of some kind, and I'm totally not just saying this as a friendly early salvo in his direction.

That also said, in order to truly embrace the nature of this game and the A+ roleplaying I intend to literally torture all of you with, I would like to be as out of control as possible for country choice. Please simply hand me the loser among everyone else's choices.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008



just lol if you don't 7-player draw

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply



BottleKnight posted:

To all 7 players: Please post your country preferences in order from most to least played. For instance, EFTAGIR would mean you want to play England the most and Russia the least.

Let's say

TEFGRIA

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this


Okay, here we go!



Hope you like your countries. Here are some additional things:

1) Deadlines will be every 48 hours for moves (spring/autumn), 24 hours for build/retreat orders (winter). Because of PMom's schedule, Tuesdays will be excluded from deadlines, we will just skip over Tuesdays. If anyone else has any conflicts let me know! I know Max has something coming up. Keep me posted on that. And if people ever want a deadline extension we will probably just do it. First deadline for Spring 1901 will be 9PM EDT, Friday, 9/23/2016

2) If you don't give me orders in time for a deadline I will not be too happy, but I won't forfeit your turn. I will prod you and publically shame you but forfeiting your turn would suck for the whole game. Just try to be respectful, please.

3) Please submit confessionals here: https://goo.gl/forms/J9arWn3jpb4nNrjx2 I will put the link in the OP. I assume you won't have a confessional for a while, and you don't have to post a bunch like in a game of Survivor or something, but some of the spectators would appreciate it maybe??

For Spectators:

Instead of a viewer doc I'm just going to have a second channel in the mafia discord server for chatting/links to the confessional doc. If you want to get into the server just PM me for an invite link or PM someone who is already in the server, anyone can create an invite link.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009



a serif font smh

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this


Oh and here is the map, I am a moron.

1900



Pinterest Mom posted:

a serif font smh

If it ain't Times, it ain't mines.

George Kansas fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Sep 22, 2016

peramene
Oct 13, 2015

Just peramene.


there ya go bk enjoy your first peramene confessional

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

preface all my posts with this




makes u think

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply



If I win I will send everybody tasteful nudes of myself.

peramene
Oct 13, 2015

Just peramene.


CCKeane posted:

If I win I will send everybody tasteful nudes of myself.

... drat what a play

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?


Grimey Drawer

I had a strange dream I was a child in some sort of detention facility and when I slept some woman approached me in my dreams and I explored some weird dream version of the facility where some crazy thing was being held so I punched it then it chased me and almost killed me but I got back to my body and then I had to live the whole night over again.

What I'm saying is we should seriously be concerned about letting permanence live

Max
Nov 30, 2002



We should all be concerned about everyone living except for ourselves.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply



HELLO COMRADES HOW IS EVERYBODY ON THIS CHILLY DAY HA HA HA VODKA

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?


Grimey Drawer

yo soy england

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CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply



Kashuno posted:

yo soy england

THIS MEANS "HELLO BEAN ENGLAND" IN ENGLISH HA HA

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