|
So 2017 Blue Jays. Lineup Carrera RF Travis 2B Donaldson 3B ??? DH Martin C Tulowitzki SS Upton Jr. LF Pillar CF Smoak 1B Bench Goins Pompey Lake Barney? Starters Happ Sanchez Estrada Stroman Liriano That's not so bad, right? They just need to find a DH somewhere and trade Smoak for a real 1B. A team with Donaldson, Martin, Tulo and Travis should be able to compete.
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 17:50
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 23, 2024 10:33 |
|
|
But WHERE would they be able to find a reliable firstbasemen who the fans would love and whose team is probably trying offload him
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 18:19
|
|
|
Chexoid posted:But WHERE would they be able to find a reliable firstbasemen who the fans would love and whose team is probably trying offload him Joey Votto on the Blue Jays would make me cry, as a Yankee fan. It probably wouldn't even cost that much to get him, prospect wise, given his giant contract. but as a baseball fan, it would be pretty cool to see a native son play on his home team. also all the dingers
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 18:28
|
|
|
It would be great to cheer for a (good) Canadian who isn't a filthy Habs fan.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 18:30
|
|
|
Please don't take Votto out of the NL Central, I love seeing him on a regular basis even if he doesn't play on my team.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 18:32
|
|
|
Carlosologist posted:Joey Votto on the Blue Jays would make me cry, as a Yankee fan. It probably wouldn't even cost that much to get him, prospect wise, given his giant contract. but as a baseball fan, it would be pretty cool to see a native son play on his home team. also all the dingers bawfuls fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Oct 3, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 18:47
|
|
|
RC Cola posted:Go Cubs Oh and go Jays
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 19:04
|
|
|
bawfuls posted:Votto's contract is big but he is very good and he's likely to outperform it for probably half of the remaining years. He will cost a significant prospect haul. But he has a full no trade and has said he doesn't want to leave Cincinnati. I know everyone assumes he'd wave it to come home, but that is not clear. Yeah to me he seems like the perfect intersection of elite player on a really high risk deal that makes it hard to believe anyone is going to agree to a fair ask by the Reds
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 19:16
|
|
|
shadok posted:That's not so bad, right? They just need to find a DH somewhere and trade Smoak for a real 1B. A team with Donaldson, Martin, Tulo and Travis should be able to compete. Isn't DarBar UFA after this season? They should just melt Barney, remold him into a 1B, and throw Smoak into the sun. I would love it if they'd keep EE but Votto would be a hoot. Isn't Morales free soon too? That would be a reasonable DH replacement.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 19:32
|
|
|
bawfuls posted:Votto's contract is big Jays are out. Management has been pretty clear they want the payroll down and they are now allergic to big star contracts, which is why they're not going to re-sign Encarnación, let alone Bautista.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 19:35
|
|
|
shadok posted:So 2017 Blue Jays.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 19:36
|
|
|
If there's one thing I am not too worried about for next season, it is Toronto's pitching. But the loss of EE alone makes the offense seem anemic even though it's not a bad lineup by any means.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 19:39
|
|
|
The Berzerker posted:Isn't DarBar UFA after this season? Yeah, he's on a 1y/1M contract for 2016. I really hope he'll be amenable to another one for 2017. Spring Break My Heart posted:That's a gutted lineup right there. "Gutted" is a little excessive. Josh Donaldson is a Very Good Baseball Man.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 19:40
|
|
|
Julio Cruz posted:Mark Trumbo is the first player ever to hit at least 47 home runs and to be worth no more than 1.7 WAR. This makes me feel slightly better about that dumb Trumbo for racist-Clevenger trade. Well, that was a good, but bittersweet season for the Mariners. I think Jerry Dipoto did pretty good in his first season  I have hope with new ownership and direction that this team will be better in the coming years.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 19:42
|
|
|
Julio Cruz posted:.871 OPS with bases empty, .665 with men on, .477 with RISP. If being clutch were a real thing, he would be the least clutch player in the league. He's the leadoff hitter. The leadoff hitter hits first in an inning, with no one on, and no outs. He prepared himself for that scenario so well, that it's the only scenario he can handle.  Curtis Granderson, dedicated man.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 19:45
|
|
|
shadok posted:"Gutted" is a little excessive. Josh Donaldson is a Very Good Baseball Man.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 19:52
|
|
|
Following with the Jays look ahead here's a way too early look at the 2017 Cubs: Gone/Probably gone to FA: Fowler Cahill Coghlan Ross Wood Chapman Smith Lineup Rizzo 1B Zobrist 2B Russell SS Bryant 3B Contreras C Soler LF Almora Jr. CF Heyward RF Bench Schwarber (2 options) Montero (0 options) La Stella (2 options) Baez (2 options) Sczcur (0 options) Starters Lester Arrieta Hendricks Lackey Hammel (10M team option, will likely be picked up if injury is not serious) Bullpen Rondon CL Strop SU Grimm (can refuse assignment) Montgomery (0 options) Patton (1 option) Edwards Jr. (1 option) Pena (3 options) Zastryzny (3 options) That's 26, so you're probably putting Pena or Patton back in AAA assuming none of the departing players re-sign and no trades or new FA signings come in. That's... pretty much the same as this year. I'm not sure Theo backs up the truck to keep Chapman with the team but even if Fowler, Chapman and Wood all go elsewhere you have essentially the same core as 2016.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:03
|
|
|
The newest version of the HoF Veterans Committee or whatever has announced this year's "today's game era" ballot, to be voted on at the winter meetings: Harold Baines Albert Belle Will Clark Orel Hershiser Davey Johnson Mark McGwire Lou Piniella John Schuerholz Bud Selig George Steinbrenner I bet Selig is the only one inducted. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Oct 3, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:08
|
|
|
if they don't put lou in, he should go to cooperstown and bellybump some baseball officials and then break a display case to hurl a historically significant base
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:12
|
|
|
CubsWoo posted:Following with the Jays look ahead here's a way too early look at the 2017 Cubs: Is it weird that I'd rather see Coghlan back than have to deal with the unpredictability of La Stella? also just give Fowler all of EJax's expiring contract + some more to stay put. I think he more than anybody is the heart and soul of the lineup and I'd still love to see him at the leadoff spot. I'd also like TWood back but that's about it from the list of departing free agents.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:17
|
|
|
Poque posted:Is it weird that I'd rather see Coghlan back than have to deal with the unpredictability of La Stella? Agreed, I think this year really solidified how big a piece Fowler has been for the Cubs. I'm really hoping the front office agrees and shells out to keep him.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:21
|
|
|
Will Clark attempted to murder the Cardinals middle infield. He has no flaws.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:22
|
|
|
If Fowler is brought back, they absolutely need to trade one of Schwarber or Soler. I hope they do it though. He is so important, it's not even funny. If he hadn't come back this year, I really wonder where the 2016 Cubs would've ended up. Granted, he wouldn't have run over Schwarber, so I guess that's pointless to wonder.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:23
|
|
|
Hot takes: 1. Cubs try to resign one of Wood/Cahill to keep the bullpen stable, and Maddon is absolutely going to push Theo to resign Coghlan but we'll see how that goes. 2. Considering how much of a tone setter he seems to be for the team, I'd guess the Cubs try extending a better deal to Fowler, although they're probably not willing to get into a bidding war with Almora waiting in the wings. 3. Cubs are absolutely going to throw their hat into the FA Closer MarketTM and try to sign one of Melancon/Jansen/Chapman to stay competitive. This is doubly true if they don't win the WS this year, making next year the last best shot to compete before Arrieta/Lackey walk. 4. If Hammel doesn't make the post season roster at all and there are sour grapes as a result, the team may let him walk and roll the dice on slotting in Montgomery as a fifth man.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:25
|
|
|
Times have been announced for the first couple games of the DS's. http://m.mlb.com/postseason-schedule code:Thank all the fucks that we got the primetime slot.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:26
|
|
|
The Berzerker posted:If there's one thing I am not too worried about for next season, it is Toronto's pitching. "In another sign of how professional baseball is continually changing, 2016 marked the first season in which Major League pitchers did not combine for at least 100 complete games. The perfect case study for this shift was the Blue Jays, whose starting pitchers did not record a single complete game and yet led the Majors with 995 1/3 innings pitched in 2016." "Only 13 clubs in modern baseball history have not recorded a single complete game over the course of a season -- including the 2016 Blue Jays, Brewers, Marlins and Yankees. Of that group of 13, the Blue Jays are the first team to have its starters lead the Major Leagues in innings while not recording a single game in which they went the distance."
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:26
|
|
|
N: Stroman pitches the Wild Card. V: I don't agree with this.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:34
|
|
|
8 PM is kind of a late start but I'll take it over 4:30 PM. Good on MLB for finally giving us a Friday game that doesn't start at 1 in the loving afternoon, I hate the Cubs for that policy.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:35
|
|
|
Not a fan of 9PM starts because anything even marginally competitive will keep me up past 1AM with post-game and winding down before bed plus I already have the fear of Baez and Soler both turning into pumpkins once the weather gets even mildly chillySydin posted:Hot takes: 1. I think Zastryzny is being groomed to be Wood's replacement so I see them letting him go and Cahill might want to do what he did last year and try and find a team that will commit to stretching him out to start. Coghlan probably deserves a cheap 1yr deal based on how he's done since coming back. 2. Fowler is going to get paid by somebody and from what I remember Theo did a handshake deal to not put a QO on him so unless you want to pay him through probably his age 37 season you have to let him go. 3. Agreed, and any of those 3 would be great to have but based on how he's been for the Cubs I'm partial to Chapman. 4. 10M is chump change for someone who can still probably give you 120 innings of 3rd-4th starter level performance as long as this isn't some chronic debilitating injury he's been hiding from the team. If he can be ready by spring I can't imagine him not getting the option picked up.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 20:44
|
|
|
Since everyone else is doing it, I might as well. The likely 2017 Giants lineup Leaving for Free Agency Jake Peavy Santiago Casilla Sergio Romo Javier Lopez Angel Pagan Gregor Blanco Too be honest, this is mostly shedding dead money. Pagan has had an offensive renaissance this year, but with his injury history and defense I'd rather not re-sign him. Lopez and Romo are cool, but with Lopez's difficulties with getting anyone out earlier this year, and Romo's recent injury history, I wouldn't mind moving on from them. Jake Peavy is a nice man. Go away Casilla. Rotation Madison Bumgarner Johnny Cueto Jeff Samardzija Matt Moore Ty Blach/Albert Suarez/Matt Cain Lineup C - Buster Posey 1B - Brandon Belt 2B - Joe Panik SS - Brandon Crawford 3B - Eduardo Nuñez LF - ? (Possibly a Mac Williamson/Jarrett Parker platoon) CF - Denard Span RF - Hunter Pence No real surprises here. Parker/Williamson depends on how confident the FO is that they'll come back 100% from injuries. Bullpen Derrick Law Hunter Strickland George Kontos? Josh Osich? Joe Nathan??? One or two of the pitchers that didn't make fifth starter ??????? Sign Melancon and Jansen SabEvans The Giants need to spend all the money they're freeing up from the Free Agents leaving on the bullpen. Bench Trevor Brown Kelby Tomlinson Austin Slater? Gorkys Hernandez? Conor Gillespie? Ehire Adrianza? Who cares we'll probably find someone that overperforms their minor league stats too.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 21:04
|
|
|
Yaya posted:N: Stroman pitches the Wild Card. And on the other side, Tillman for the Orioles. On one hand, Jiménez has been phenomenal lately AND he held the Jays to one hit over 6.2 innings a week ago. On the other, it's Ubaldo Jiménez and we're just ask likely to give up 5 runs by the fourth inning so I guess Buck is going with the comparatively safer option.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 21:24
|
|
|
New Concept Hole posted:Will Clark attempted to murder the Cardinals middle infield. Is there a lip reading hall of fame?
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 21:29
|
|
|
It won't happen but I would die so happy if Big Mac went in before Selig. Selig also doesn't deserve to be in the HOF but he's gonna get shooed in
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 21:29
|
|
|
N: https://twitter.com/nickpiecoro/status/783043123576311808 V: Means very little if TLR is still in charge of baseball ops edit: official https://twitter.com/Dbacks/status/783043820829093889 bawfuls fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Oct 3, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 21:42
|
|
|
Spoeank posted:Really there's only one postseason shirt you need If this was sold I'd buy 3 of them. bawfuls posted:N: https://twitter.com/nickpiecoro/status/783043123576311808 Will Dave Stewart finally move out of Kevin Towers's basement?
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 21:52
|
|
|
Spoeank posted:It won't happen but I would die so happy if Big Mac went in before Selig. Eh as much as I dislike the guy personally he oversaw a lot of additions to and change within the game. He deserves to be in as much as any other executive
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 22:13
|
|
|
New Concept Hole posted:Will Clark attempted to murder the Cardinals middle infield. He was cool in 2000 
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 22:16
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/783056215135907840 Hopefully he is getting a gig somewhere else or this is a mutual thing? It seemed like he did a good job and was well liked among the players.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 22:31
|
|
|
Good Dog posted:https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/783056215135907840 My theory is he knew he did a good job and wanted a pay raise. Then Jeffrey Loria happened.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 22:35
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 23, 2024 10:33 |
|
|
Good Dog posted:https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/783056215135907840 drat it Giants, you know what to do!
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2016 22:36
|
|
