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I don't remember where I read it but I recall some evangelical source talking about how Trump to them is like Cyrus the great, in that Cyrus was a non Jew who nonetheless has a special place in history because he helped the Jews so much in restoring them, Trump is a non-goodly Christian destined to restore Christianity.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 15:50 |
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# ¿ May 7, 2024 20:01 |
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I physically couldn't stop myself from doing a slight jig as I walked this morning
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2016 18:15 |
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Sean Hannity appears to be comparing trump favorably to King David and his 500 concubines now on his show
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2016 18:23 |
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I think I'll have engagements tomorrow which will prevent me from being able to see the debate. I'm glad in a way because it's such an intense event with so much wrapped up in it just thinking about it makes me sick to my stomach, even though I know realistically it can't save trump's campaign at this point.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 02:36 |
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Anyone saying trump won is being absurd. It was a wash at the very best for him. Trump is finished, its just a matter of time.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2016 03:46 |
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Internet Kraken posted:The important thing to remember is this; Trump has shot himself in the foot harder than ever before with the comments about women. He needs to get people back onto his ticket, and nothing he did in the debate is gonna do that. Cause its all just poo poo he's said before. Isis bad. Economy bad. Obamacare bad. Immigrants bad. Trump good. Make America great again. Basically this: the only thing that mattered in this debate was how Trump responded to the pussy grabbing and he blew it, it's over.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2016 03:56 |
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These post-tape polls are just going to keep pouring in, aren't they
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2016 20:21 |
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Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2016 17:10 |
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Zarin posted:Aren't there some drugs that make you want to disassemble things? Maybe meth?
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 00:53 |
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So WikiLeaks is basically 100% an arm of Trump's campaign at this point. Nice.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 03:11 |
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Man I remember when WikiLeaks was like a big cool thing with the far left (which I identified with at the time), its just so surreal to basically see them posting propaganda for Donald loving Trump on their twitter page.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 03:16 |
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This argument is loving stupid "Trump won't and can't win" "B-b-b but there's a 1% chance!" BTW Shook Nate's Model is one of the most favorable for trump, Sam Wang's last time I looked basically had him at 4-5% and he put up a blog post saying that yeah, basically he won't win.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 16:28 |
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The only remotely plausible scenario I see where trump possibly wins is a combination of Clinton having some major gaffe, getting sick again, WikiLeaks coming out with something really bad, and some sort of news story coming out that somehow makes it look somewhat plausible that Trump's accusers are lying, and another major islamic terrorist attack on the scale of Pulse, and after all that his chances of winning would not be great. So yeah, lol.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 16:36 |
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I live in the south and even before the Trump phenomenon there was latent anti-semitism here, I have friends who sometimes would call cheating someone "jew"ing them, etc. Anti-semitism has been a big thing on /pol/ as well long before Trump, like so many other things about the Trump campaign, the anti-semitism is just a revealing and intensifying of what was very much already there if you looked. Trump himself veers closer and closer to overt anti-semitism every day (excluding the sheriff incident) with his talk about the evil international cabal of bankers who want to subvert US national sovereignty to allow in a horde of third-world immigrants with open borders. That's basically word for word what neo-nazis have been saying is the Jewish plan for years, that an international cabal of Jewish elite want to encourage immigration of non-whites into white countries to cause race mixing and weaken the white race and make them more docile and controllable.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 23:35 |
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Cingulate posted:I doubt Trump himself actually has an anti-semitic bone in his body. I'm not quite sure why his conspiracy theories perfectly align with antisemitic conspiracies, but then, you have to admit that at some point, Jews have been blamed for basically everything, ever. I honestly don't think that Trump believed 50% of the things he's campaigning on until he ran and started succeeding and a swarm of yes men Nazi advisers swarmed around him to mold him into the perfect white nationalist candidate they've been waiting for, and he's still resisting them slightly: see the way he makes bizarre nods towards helping black people vs the way the typical alt-righter view black people. There's still time for them to get some genuine anti-semitism into his head and it's probably happening as we speak now that Bannon is more or less in charge.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 23:49 |
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Cingulate posted:Isn't that just White Man's Burden poo poo? I really don't see the Alt Right incapable of imagining themselves the Last Rhodesians.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2016 23:58 |
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The very standard way of viewing anti-semitism through the leftist lens is that it takes what would be critiques of the structure of society itself and its own functioning (the way is it undemocratic, exploitative, ruled by elites etc.) and instead points to a small scapegoat group to pour all fear and anxiety and hatred towards the order of things onto. The fascist/anti-semitic myth is that it's not capitalism* or our own society which is exploitative, soulless, destructive, inefficient, etc: When our society is working in its organic totality it functions more or less perfectly, it's when the corrosive influence of the outsider i.e. Jew (who importantly is seen as having no real national identity) comes in that we have problems. Real anger that might be directed towards institutions or the upper class is therefore deflected: "it's not the rich that are the problem, it's the Jewish rich" "its not capitalism that's flawed, it's the influence of the Jewish elite in capitalism", "if we could just eliminate them our society would function perfectly" etc. Various fascist or fascist adjacent movements have their own take on this. Sometimes it's not the Jew that is the figure of the corrosive force, for people like Alex Jones it's just the blank figure of the "Globalist", which, well, we can point out that for many people, including maybe for him, that's just a code for the Jew, but yeah. Note how a lot of right wing ideology fits this mold just without reference to the figure of the Jew. Criticism of the system is always deflected away in that the system would work fine if it wasn't for those darn "special interests" and "liberal elite" which we just need a big strong man to clear away. *When I say capitalism here I just mean the system of market exchange and private property, all that stuff that is the structure of capitalism. The Nazis claimed to be very anti-capitalist in that they identified the signifier "capitalism" with Jews, but their real vision for society was not really post-capitalist in any way. Jygallax fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Oct 16, 2016 |
# ¿ Oct 16, 2016 00:42 |
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Of course Trump birthday parties are a thing, what planet do think you're on?
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2016 01:03 |
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saltylopez posted:I wonder how much South Park could be blamed for the popularity of anti-semitism among the alt-right. While anti-semitism has been a thing forever, I feel like South Park sort of brought it back into the mainstream and primed some millenials (intentionally or not) to accept these sorts of messages. I feel like the jokey anti-semitism in South Park was something that half the audience got and was like "haha that's funny how hosed up that is" and the other half of the audience was like "haha yeah Jews sure are greedy and manipulative". The second half then went on to go meme on 4chan.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2016 01:06 |
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This is why you don't use facebook people.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2016 01:18 |
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I just realized I don't actually really know any Trump supporters in real life. The closest I come is a friend of my mom who I've met once or twice who's a self-hating old white woman who things women aren't qualified to be leaders.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2016 01:25 |
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Cingulate posted:To begin with, does anybody believe he understands The Cyber well enough? No but his son does. Barron Trump Russian spy confirmed.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2016 01:33 |
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Phone posted:Oh god, I just remembered that literally the only place that Trump has a GOTV effort is in Israel. The short answer is: the part of his base that likes Israel believes him when he praises Israel, and the part of his base that hates Jews just tells themselves that he's only pretending to like Israel since they won't let you get anywhere in politics without supporting them.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2016 01:35 |
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Sensible Thursday posted:Remember that time Trump tried to out Jon Stewart as a secret Jew? Huh
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2016 01:47 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:The wall is easily the second least poo poo Trump policy proposal after infrastructure investment, taken in isolation. Worst case scenario, it's a gigantic useless Keynesian boondoggle, and we could really use some Keynesian boondoggles. Best case, it's a gigantic Keynesian boondoggle with nonzero positive impact and little to no negative impact (lines the pockets of successful coyote a little more, I guess). Spending huge amounts of money on a giant useless piece of concrete in the desert and the people to man and maintain it would automatically be horrible just on the grounds that the money could be spent on literally anything else.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2016 01:53 |
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I'm so thankful Egg McMuffin is doing his thing and screwing over Trump in Utah.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2016 02:41 |
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Man I forgot about the ground zero mosque. Looking back, that more than anything really presaged the rise of Trump, it was basically more or less pure anger over the mere fact that muslims exist and live in the US.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2016 16:14 |
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Lol@ that WSJ article. Look! A guy said to Fox News that it was all corrupt!
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2016 16:20 |
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Andrast posted:What the gently caress is dark enlightenment? Short answer: people who unironically think we need to return to the mores and social structures the Medieval era
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2016 21:02 |
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So the right wing internet is currently freaking out right now because some rando made a jokey tweet saying they were a postal worker in Ohio and love tearing up Trump absentee ballots. Lol. e:(a rando who lives in California) Jygallax fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Oct 18, 2016 |
# ¿ Oct 18, 2016 02:03 |
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GalacticAcid posted:That was noted Twitter jokester @randygdub. Did the news of this make mainstream sources? Chris Hayes did a funny segment on it, check out the twitter page lol
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2016 02:14 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:Trump always wins on visceral; his news of groping women and stuff grabs the mind like nothing else, but how much of a thing is today's news about the state department and the FBI? Its a big deal if you want to think its a big deal, it isn't if you don't (it isn't)
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2016 02:40 |
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I still can't get over Ecuador's statement. It's just too good.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 01:30 |
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 01:38 |
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I don't think anyone is likely to not vote for a candidate they are considering based on the actions of a bus driver associated with their campaign.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 01:59 |
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Every opinion that Bill Mitchell has seems precision engineered to be the absolute opposite in every way of what I believe.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 02:04 |
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I'm really curious to see the Utah results on election day.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 02:08 |
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Yeah, wait, what? that margin for Colorado seems insane doesn't it? unless they swapped the names in the tweet accidentally?
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 02:11 |
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I'm no mathemagician but I feel like Trump +7 in Colorado all the sudden has to be an error. The most recent 3 polls in the 538 aggregator for Colorado have Clinton +10 +6 and +8.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 02:18 |
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# ¿ May 7, 2024 20:01 |
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Night10194 posted:Surveymonkey is not a scientific poll. They're C- on 538. They're below RASMUSSEN. I see
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 02:21 |