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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

No more slogans®

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hifi
Jul 25, 2012

coyotes 2.0

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

DJExile posted:

i will laugh at this forever

Boucher's such a piece of poo poo

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Pungry
Feb 26, 2011

JUST PICK ONE. ANY ONE.
This is way better than Web 2.0.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Jim Rutherford wrote an article for Players Tribune and its really good
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/jim-rutherford-what-you-dont-know-about-being-a-gm/

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

http://arizonasports.com/story/852033/coyotes-2-0-marketing-campaign-launch/

quote:

To that end, the Coyotes will debut a series of ads featuring the players with a behind-the-scenes feel to them. In one, captain Shane Doan is sitting at his locker talking about what it means to be a Coyote. In another, Oliver Ekman-Larsson takes pride in his Swedish heritage and what he can bring to the Valley. In yet another, Max Domi discusses overcoming Type 1 diabetes.

“Some of our ads in the past have been over-produced. This is not; it’s stripped down production,” Margulies said. “I thought the best way for us to reconnect with our fans was for them to get to the know the organization and the players. The players make hockey different form baseball, basketball and football. Everybody loves hockey players. We wanted to highlight that.”

not sure why they had to wait for the beat guy to write up an article instead of posting something like this on their website but whatever. i'm not sure about the staying power of domi talking about diabetes for an entire season but it could be better than the soundtrack of sonic adventure played over coyotes highlights with paint splatter and film grain overlays

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain

hifi posted:

coyotes 2.0

we can rebuild the coyotes. we have the technology

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Coming 2017: The $60 Million Dollar Relocation Fee.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Flyers lineup tonight, with Mason starting:

Forwards
Konecny - Giroux - Schenn
Read - Couturier - Voracek
Laughton - Cousins - McDonald
Leier - Weal - Lyubimov

Defensemen
Del Zotto - Gudas
Provorov - Gostisbehere
Morin - MacDonald

Dat top line :flashfap:

And for NYR:

https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/782640884110221313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/782641220178808832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

BSH posted:

Tonight’s game is on CSN Philly and 97.5 The Fanatic locally, MSG in the New York area and on NHL Network everywhere else in the United States. Puck drop is at 7 p.m.

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
AV seems to be trying to lower expectations for the season by playing some lovely lineups

Well, the top 2 lines are more or less NHL quality at least.

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

achillesforever6 posted:

Jim Rutherford wrote an article for Players Tribune and its really good
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/jim-rutherford-what-you-dont-know-about-being-a-gm/

A great illustration of how pervasive the "heart & character" belief runs in the upper echelons of NHL management. JR obviously made some astute moves and built a really incredible roster for the Pens last year, and deserves credit for that. But reading this article doesn't give me a ton of confidence that it was more than a coincidence -- not every year are you going to get so lucky as to have Kessel, Hagelin and Daley be the types of "heart & character" players that your GM picks up. It was interesting to hear him talk about Daley preferring to play on his off-side and that being part of the reason he struggled in Chicago; I don't recall hearing that before.

It's also baffling to me how the Chicago vs. LA narrative has become skill vs. size. I had never chalked up LA's success to size, and I honestly didn't know that this was a common point of view. I always thought LA's success came from a Team Canada-like approach to the game -- you could call it 'grind' but IMO that sounds too close to 'grit' to capture what it really was. It really came down to puck possession, as cliché as that sounds -- hold onto the puck as much as possible, play the safe odds and wait for a situation to arise where you can strike opportunistically. I guess that's too nuanced for the sake of the narrative, especially since you need to have a highly skilled team to execute the strategy. Skill vs. skill just doesn't have the same ring as skill vs. size.

Trevor Bird
Apr 1, 2006

On a mountain of skulls, in the castle of pain, I sat on a throne of blood! What was will be! What is will be no more! Now is the season of evil! LET'S GO PRED-A-TORS!

ThinkTank posted:

The storied career of 2003 Calder Trophy winner Barrett Jackman has come to its conclusion.

he seems like a good guy. just a very, very slow hockey player.

e: bryz is on twitter again to make fun of the flyers

https://twitter.com/bryzgoalie30/status/782989381405552640

:lol:

Trevor Bird fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Oct 3, 2016

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
LA's size did play a factor in their cup wins and in their playing style...but not because they could hit a bunch of people or something, but it helped them take up a lot of ice and protect the puck. Without their playing style and skill level though, it wouldn't have made that much of a difference.

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Trevor Bird posted:

he seems like a good guy. just a very, very slow hockey player.

e: bryz is on twitter again to make fun of the flyers

https://twitter.com/bryzgoalie30/status/782989381405552640

:lol:

:argh: Bryz!!!!

fake edit: haha, one of the replies is just "spot the current NHL goalie in this picture"

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

It's also baffling to me how the Chicago vs. LA narrative has become skill vs. size. I had never chalked up LA's success to size, and I honestly didn't know that this was a common point of view.

I guess you're not exposed to the cliches that surround the Kings' recent success out east, but yeah a huge part of it is the apparent size advantage they have over other teams. Basically the media in the west just loves to espouse the idea that the west is the 'tough' conference and the east is the 'skill' one. Every player that moves between them is immediately vetted against some imaginary rubric based on size and grit. "Sure he put up points in the east, but the west is a much tougher conference and he just can't do what he could out there anymore," is basically the lazy sports writer's refrain. You can only win with size and strength and that's highlighted in the relatively large top sixes of the Kings, Ducks and Sharks who have been consistently successful for the last 8-10 years. For some reason the Hawks winning three cups with a skill roster is ignored.

The Kings have had a ton of success with their possession style, but saying "well they play a good possession/transition game" doesn't sell any papers so it's about how they have big guys in Kopitar, Brown, Carter, King, McNabb, etc. As a result, every time a team has a disappointing year in the west it's because they got 'pushed around' by the Kings or Sharks, so the solution is to load up on big guys. This offseason alone the Oilers signed Lucic, the Flames added Brouwer and the Canucks traded for Gudbranson largely to have them 'protect' their scorers or act as a deterrent somehow. It's that thinking that leads to Dorsett, Ferland, Maroon and Kassian taking the occasional shift with players of actual worth. The California teams just put their heads down and don't draw attention to the fact that their top six is largely entirely skill guys, a number of whom are pretty weak comparatively. They certainly don't hamstring players like Pavelski by putting Ben Eager with him to keep him 'safe.'

I honestly don't think teams believe the "KINGS WON BECAUSE THEY'RE TOUGH" thing that much. They probably recognize that's it's really, really hard to emulate the Kings roster and when the fans are crying "COPY THE CHAMPS!" each year, it's easier to say "it was their 6'5" 225lbs guys that won it for them" than acquiring franchise transition defencemen and all world two-way centres.

So yeah, the narrative that surrounds the Kings is all about their size. Lucic last year was supposed to return them to the rough and tumble style that they'd apparently strayed from the season before in not winning. The fact that he was a good possession winger was overlooked, because that's not interesting and doesn't fit in with the preconceived notion of the west as the real man's conference.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
The worst thing to come from the Bruins winning the 2011 Cup Finals besides the reoccurring nightmares I have was GMs around the league trying to copy that instead of the Canucks formula

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

I don't know, I think we can all agree the world would be a better place with fewer Vancouvers.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
I do believe in finding players that fit a style of play. They still have to be good players though obviously. The Kings can't just plug some big lovely mook into their lineup and have it work. But maybe a slow 6 foot 3 dude who is a good possession player fits better with how they like to play the game than on a more speed based team like the Pens. And how a player is used tactically can help or hinder their particular skill set. Hags owns all the bones on the Pens and Rangers because they love to just chip pucks into open space and let him hunt them down. He struggled on the Ducks who have less team speed and less of a speed oriented style. And Perron who can't skate has played by far his best hockey on slower teams like the Blues and Ducks.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Yaya posted:

The worst thing to come from the Bruins winning the 2011 Cup Finals besides the reoccurring nightmares I have was GMs around the league trying to copy that instead of the Canucks formula

That's why you should all let Chicago win another half dozen cups, they embody the Right Kind of Hockey(tm) and you want more teams to follow their example.

Except for Q's token piece of poo poo forward and defensive group that will unexpectedly elbow the gently caress out of someone's head at least once a year. Hey look over there it's Kane and Panarin scoring 50 more goals!!

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

xzzy posted:

That's why you should all let Chicago win another half dozen cups, they embody the Right Kind of Hockey(tm) and you want more teams to follow their example.

Except for Q's token piece of poo poo forward and defensive group that will unexpectedly elbow the gently caress out of someone's head at least once a year. Hey look over there it's Kane and Panarin scoring 50 more goals!!

See, that's how you know Kane's a team player. He became that piece of poo poo forward for the benefit of the team. They didn't need Shaw anymore.

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

Aphrodite posted:

See, that's how you know Kane's a team player. He became that piece of poo poo forward for the benefit of the team. They didn't need Shaw anymore.

Then why do we have tootoo?

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa

Yaya posted:

The worst thing to come from the Bruins winning the 2011 Cup Finals besides the reoccurring nightmares I have was GMs around the league trying to copy that instead of the Canucks formula

It didn't even make sense at the time because the Bruins won due to incredible goaltending and a skilled offense, not because of "grit" or "toughness". People remember Marchand punching Sedin in the face that series and not some of the absolute highlight-reel, individual effort, goals he scored. They remember Tim Thomas knocking a different (?) Sedin on his rear end and not the fact that he played out of his mind.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

RC Cola posted:

Then why do we have tootoo?

Kane didn't make the papers once this summer and Quenneville lose faith in him to be the team's dick.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/782943898406645764

Quality dude and a good player (for most of his career)

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Jamwad Hilder posted:

It didn't even make sense at the time because the Bruins won due to incredible goaltending and a skilled offense, not because of "grit" or "toughness". People remember Marchand punching Sedin in the face that series and not some of the absolute highlight-reel, individual effort, goals he scored. They remember Tim Thomas knocking a different (?) Sedin on his rear end and not the fact that he played out of his mind.

I've said it before, but Thomas put up something like a .967 Sv% in that series. Bring his numbers down to his already record setting regular season average of .938 and he lets in something like 7 more goals. The Canucks averaged 3.19 GF/G in the regular season, and 1.14 in the finals. The Canucks were beaten fair and square, but Tim Thomas putting on arguably the greatest individual performance by a modern era professional athlete was very much the deciding factor.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
did Franchise Hockey Manager ever get good as a series or is Eastside Hockey Manager still the best? because FHM 3 managed to get NHL licensing. no NHLPA licensing, though it seems like something they could patch in if/when they get it

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012
The Bruins also weren't a particularly big team, people just associate their identity more with Chara and Lucic than they did with Bergeron, Marchand and others. I don't remember where they ranked exactly 2011 but in 2013 they were smaller than the average team.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

bewbies posted:

https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/782943898406645764

Quality dude and a good player (for most of his career)

Yeah I always liked him. Played defense the right way.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Trevor Bird posted:

e: bryz is on twitter again to make fun of the flyers

https://twitter.com/bryzgoalie30/status/782989381405552640

:lol:

hahahaha ok that's pretty good

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

the press release was stupid but the actual commercial seems fine :shrug:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OytGb0USb3o

last years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0db5dSRlPJE

at 95 degrees, there's zero room for fairweather fans

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


"The kids like tech things, right? how do we sound like a tech thing?"

E: Those laces across the collar on the jersey look neat

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain

Awesome Welles posted:

:argh: Bryz!!!!

fake edit: haha, one of the replies is just "spot the current NHL goalie in this picture"

could be worse

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

hifi posted:

the press release was stupid but the actual commercial seems fine :shrug:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OytGb0USb3o

Wow, a free magnet schedule?!

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."
I guess maybe Cody Hodgson is retiring because he's apparently working with Nashville youth hockey this season.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


ThinkTank posted:

Wow, a free magnet schedule?!

Considering the average age of the Phoenix population, something like that's probably a pretty hot item

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

ThinkTank posted:

Wow, a free magnet schedule?!

opening night magnets
http://bruins.ice.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=65164
https://www.nhl.com/capitals/schedule/promotions

second home game magnets
http://redwings.ice.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=86055
https://www.nhl.com/kings/tickets/single-game-tickets

etc

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

and Being Real here, the thing I most appreciate about the coyotes is not paying a thousand dollars to sit in the second deck like Some western canadian teams manage to do, and being able to tailgate in a t shirt and jean shorts and not having to shovel my car out in the middle of the third period to beat traffic. God bless

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




Levitate posted:

LA's size did play a factor in their cup wins and in their playing style...but not because they could hit a bunch of people or something, but it helped them take up a lot of ice and protect the puck. Without their playing style and skill level though, it wouldn't have made that much of a difference.

yeah you don't need size or skill to knee somebody (I'm going to be bitter about that hit until the day I stop watching hockey)

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DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Quiet news from yesterday but the Flyers signed Carter Hart to an ELC.

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