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InspectorCarbonara posted:gently caress em up cranberry To be fair Cranberry is also an evil sadistic gently caress too. They both need to pay. Still not sure if Mole girl just fully like, in Stockholm syndrome mode or if she's at all shares responsibility beyond "just following orders."
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Interesting question will be whether the Magical World Archmages or whatever have the ability to bring back La Pucelle because of Cranberry's interference in the selection process. The others were engaged in battles with other magical girls, but Cranberry just went out for a fight with Snow White, escalated the situation to the point that it was kill-or-be-killed, and coldheartedly destroyed him. That might be a step too far when it's inevitably discovered. EDIT: Just realized might be nice to spoil-tag this since it's today's episode. Kytrarewn fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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I thought Snow White and Alice were going to make it all the way to the end together. Black and white really were pretty together...  The rabbit's foot is going to have to come into play sooner or later, considering how much the show loves taunting us with it. I was really hoping it would be this episode. To the people here who complained about the reason why they were cutting it down to four instead of eight, you'll be happy to know that Fav agrees with you.  Congratulations, you're like Fav!  Seriously, though, based on their conversation, it looks like Fav isn't entirely in control of this whole thing. It looks like he's following Cranberries orders, at least as far as the sadistic details go, in order to get what he wants. Maybe he is just as coldly amoral as Kyubey, then. I've been putting off reading the novels until now to avoid any real spoilers, but since there are only two episodes left (I think), I might as well go ahead and start. The last angel went out exactly like she deserved, as an afterthought.
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Given the title of the next episode, I'm hoping that Swimswim kills Cranberry, and the "server maintenance" is Fav panicking while he tries to work out what to do now his accomplice is dead. Mainly because it would support my favourite ship: Swimswim x A throne of skulls from which she will rule over the ashes of this world.
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Dzhay posted:Mainly because it would support my favourite ship: Swimswim x A throne of skulls from which she will rule over the ashes of this world. Yes, please.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/jfpzmi.webm
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Hey what's up with the thread title I heard that dude dies in this
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Also speaking of Nemurin, for whatever reason she's one of the most popularly drawn characters in fanart. I've seen more of her than I've seen of Ripple, Cranberry, or Swim Swim, and on a few places even more than Snow White and Alice she of course doesn't hold a candle to La Pucelle, aka both best boy and best girl, so good to see the internet has good opinions sometimes
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Have some shirts that you'll never wear in public (unless you're strong and brave and a true magical girl) https://twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/806008520566935552
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^^^ I'd want that Top Speed shirt just to wear around the house, haha. Toss-up between her, Masked Wonder, Stuntchica (who doesn't have much background or personality yet, but I really like her character design) for favorite girl in the series as a whole.LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:i didn't like the casual explanation of why the game started, though i'm not sure a big Evil Plan reveal would've been any better. might dig into the light novels after this since i'm curious to see how they continue from what i assume will be the ending wrt ~the world of magic~ I've read all the translated content (through more than half of Volume 7, which is the 4th arc) and still don't really understand what's up with the Land of Magic. It seems like something that is going to be very gradually revealed over the course of the series. The volumes have shed some light on its organizational structure, with the most recent one finally touching upon the topic of the Land of Magic itself. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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Dec 6, 2016 09:03
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Ytlaya posted:^^^ I'd want that Top Speed shirt just to wear around the house, haha. Toss-up between her, Masked Wonder, Stuntchica (who doesn't have much background or personality yet, but I really like her character design) for favorite girl in the series as a whole. btw recommendations where i shoud buy embarassing Anime tshirts in europe/germany?
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:btw recommendations where i shoud buy embarassing Anime tshirts in europe/germany? There's always the middle man websites that will deal with the shipping and stuff for places that don't ship overseas/across the border.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:btw recommendations where i shoud buy embarassing Anime tshirts in europe/germany? Man, hell if I know, I don't actually own a single anime t-shirt, I just like Top Speed. Vaguely speaking of Magicaloid 44 and the general topic of magical girl transformations affecting a person's mind, it's later explicitly stated that the transformation always makes a person's mind "stronger" in the sense that they can more easily deal with things like fear or tragedy, but that specific transformations might affect a girl in various other ways in addition to that. Also, in addition to boys, animals can also be turned into magical girls, in the process gaining the general intelligence of a human but retaining a bunch of their instincts and lacking human social knowledge.
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Dec 9, 2016 03:40
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Nooooooooo why Tama and why that way?  Now I want more than ever for Ripple to beat Swim-Swim but i'm not seeing an endgame.
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So yeah don't gently caress with swim swim. e: It's amazing how much better Ruler looks in hindsight. Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Dec 10, 2016 |
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Dec 10, 2016 21:14
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This stupid loving show makes me so maaaaaad
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Alpha Kenny Juan posted:Nooooooooo why Tama and why that way? Though to be fair the fact that Clamberry, who sought out the strongest, was killed by Tama of all people is hilarious and basically invalidates her entire ideology.
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Ytlaya posted:Though to be fair the fact that Clamberry, who sought out the strongest, was killed by Tama of all people is hilarious and basically invalidates her entire ideology. Tama's power is also scary as hell; a lot of these abilities are when applied to soft squishy people.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Tama's power is also scary as hell; a lot of these abilities are when applied to soft squishy people. Yeah, but Tama isn't good at fighting and as long as you can keep her away from you she would be easy for someone like Clamberry to defeat normally. And there are actually quite a few magical girls who have powers that are absurdly strong if they have no qualms about killing with them (like Nemurin).
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Magical Girl Breaking Project. Tama wins the award for most horrifying application of a power.
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I felt like this episode fumbled a little. I guess with so few characters left they're out of nice ways to expand on the LN. As for the beginning with Clamberry they changed it a bit from the novels. In the novels one of the girls just happened to have the ability to summon a demon but, evidently, not control it, and it killed everyone during what was supposed to be an almost entirely peaceful selection process. Clamberry going from zero to blood knight in five seconds was also pretty clumsy.
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Desuwa posted:As for the beginning with Clamberry they changed it a bit from the novels. In the novels one of the girls just happened to have the ability to summon a demon but, evidently, not control it, and it killed everyone during what was supposed to be an almost entirely peaceful selection process. Clamberry going from zero to blood knight in five seconds was also pretty clumsy. An interesting bit is the fact that what's referred to as "demons" are actually an attempt to weaponize the same sort of magic involved in Maou Pam's wings. So the demon is basically the same as the pseudo-organisms Maou Pam can create from her wings and give directions to. Speaking of Maou Pam (Arc 3 spoilers)I like how, after all the talk about Maou Pam being this huge badass, she actually was a huge badass and completely owned one of the Big Bads (and was in the process of defeating the other) and only lost due to a sneak attack. She really was the strongest when it came to a straight-forward fight.
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I'd suspected this for a while, but it seems that taking mastership of the system basically stops you from de-transforming. Cranberry didn't de-transform after Tama love-tapped her. And it would explain why Cranberry lives alone in a home-made cabin in the woods, it's hard to move around in the city when you look like an elf. And lol that Swim-Swim was uninterested in taking mastership because she had killed all her would-be subjects. Also it looks like abilities can be levelled up. Cranberry can scale her power from confusion spells up to pulverizing blasts of light and sound, Snow White's can theoretically be scaled up to perfect combat sense. Maybe, I'll read the LNs once the series is over.
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Jesus Christ, Tama!  Poor Tama, her only role in this series was to have her frailty and innocence repeatedly crushed by the cruelty of this series. At least she got to go out in a spectacular fashion. The look of dull confusion on Cranberry's face before she died was an especially nice touch. Ripple's memories of Top Speed were heartbreaking, especially the fact that she had to carry the corpse of her best friend and surrogate mother back to her home. Desuwa posted:As for the beginning with Clamberry they changed it a bit from the novels. In the novels one of the girls just happened to have the ability to summon a demon but, evidently, not control it, and it killed everyone during what was supposed to be an almost entirely peaceful selection process. Clamberry going from zero to blood knight in five seconds was also pretty clumsy. Okay, because I got the feeling from Fav's reaction that he set it up so that the monster would go berserk and start killing everyone. If that's the case, then it's probably safe to say that Fav isn't so much a manipulator as much as he is just an opportunist?
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I'm reading more of the LNs, and it turns out a lot of the "missing" stuff that was in the anime but not the first volume (including the Nemurin stuff) was actually from the side stories in the fourth volume. So I guess it's a case like SAO volume one, where the writer had to cram the first arc into one volume and filled in the gaps later, and the anime integrated it.
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Phobophilia posted:I'd suspected this for a while, but it seems that taking mastership of the system basically stops you from de-transforming. Cranberry didn't de-transform after Tama love-tapped her. And it would explain why Cranberry lives alone in a home-made cabin in the woods, it's hard to move around in the city when you look like an elf. While I can see why you might think that, it isn't really the case. Later on it's explained that many magical girls just stay transformed 24/7 because it saves them money on food (magical girls don't need to eat) and lets them be prepared for combat at a moment's notice. This is especially true for ones who are employed by the Land of Magic and don't really have many connections or responsibilities in their non-magical girl life. And yeah, powers can be improved (with Snow White's capable of being improved in the expected way). Certain magical girls are also stronger/faster/more agile/whatever than others as well, due to a combination of training and the fact that certain magical girl forms have innate benefits aside from their magical abilities (Ripple is more agile/fast than the average magical girl because of her ninja theme, for example). It seems like being a magical girl just lets you be on the same basic level as other magical girls, but just like regular humans can be stronger/faster than other regular humans, the same is true for magical girls.
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Raenir Salazar posted:e: It's amazing how much better Ruler looks in hindsight. I thought so too, until I remembered that she conscripted Tama and the others to be shields in her revenge against Calamity Mary.
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There is only so much tsun a tsundere can have before its considered unacceptable.
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The thing about Ruler is while she honestly does care about her underlings and enjoys their company, she's also a pretty hosed up person who can't understand others and sort of compensates by telling herself that she's just better than them (which is why it offends her so much when someone dominates her like with Calamity Mary). So it's possible for her to genuinely care for her underlings while at the same time being willing to sacrifice them in the pursuit of her revenge against Calamity Mary.
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Finished the second arc. The pacing and characterization are definitely improved over the first. It did fairly obviously retcon a few things, though. Melville's motivation doesn't really fit with the way Cranberry was characterized as a loner. Also, Cranberry and Fav getting away with running lots of previous death games, some on an even larger scale, possibly for hundreds of years (if you take the line about the original Lapis Lazuline being a magical girl for that long literally and assume she was forced to participate fairly soon after becoming a Magical Girl), and multiple other administrators copying them after they were caught, makes the Land of Magic look pretty incompetent. Edit: There's even more retconning in the side stories. La Pucelle meeting a magical girl from another city feels weird; you'd think he'd propose the idea of trying to contact her after the fighting started in order to see if there was some way to stop it. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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Silver2195 posted:... Land of Magic... incompetent. This is the only thing you can count on when dealing with them. I still haven't finished the third arc but it's horrible mismanagement and incompetence all around. I guess that's probably required when they're giving out completely unpredictable powers to batches of random people, many of which have no obvious uses outside of killing.
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Silver2195 posted:Finished the second arc. The pacing and characterization are definitely improved over the first. It did fairly obviously retcon a few things, though. Melville's motivation doesn't really fit with the way Cranberry was characterized as a loner. Also, Cranberry and Fav getting away with running lots of previous death games, some on an even larger scale, possibly for hundreds of years (if you take the line about the original Lapis Lazuline being a magical girl for that long literally and assume she was forced to participate fairly soon after becoming a Magical Girl), and multiple other administrators copying them after they were caught, makes the Land of Magic look pretty incompetent. The biggest mystery about magical girls in this series is why they even exist in the first place. It seems like the only thing magical girls (on Earth at least) are needed for is stopping other magical girls from doing bad things, which begs the question of why magical girls were ever created in the first place. edit: Jeez, the LN translators are absurdly fast. It seems like they're turning out one ~60 page chapter every single week. Just a week or so ago I noticed the last two chapters of Arc 4 were uploaded, and today I noticed that the first 58 page chapter of the next arc was. Also, it seems like one of the girls in this new arc (Dark Cutie) might have the same sort of power as Tokoyami in My Hero Academia, at least judging from the picture (middle of the second page here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1itk6YHRx9wNRw8auMWM95fxgUMoAeuJc7O_Dz5fz7a4/edit). Seems like some sort of shadow monster; from what I can tell the Japanese text says something like "can move her shadow like the real thing" or something, so maybe it can just imitate her movements. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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Ytlaya posted:The biggest mystery about magical girls in this series is why they even exist in the first place. It seems like the only thing magical girls (on Earth at least) are needed for is stopping other magical girls from doing bad things, which begs the question of why magical girls were ever created in the first place. This is actually explained fairly well, I think. They exist to use their powers to help people, whether by stopping wars, catching criminals, eliminating hazardous waste, or cooking delicious food. Some of the specific powers aren't particularly useful for things other than fighting other Magical Girls, but as powers seem to be based on the Magical Girl's personality rather than being deliberately handed out by someone, it's only to be expected.
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Silver2195 posted:This is actually explained fairly well, I think. They exist to use their powers to help people, whether by stopping wars, catching criminals, eliminating hazardous waste, or cooking delicious food. Yeah, but why would the Land of Magic even care about that? Our world is basically a foreign country to them (they even call the department dealing with Earth issues "Foreign Affairs"), and the power of a magical girl isn't really necessary to do pretty much any of their job aside from stuff like stopping terrorists. And from what I've seen so far I find it highly questionable that the good magical girls do outweighs the harm. I mean, it's entirely possible that they thought it would be a good idea and then later realized they'd dug themselves into a hole with all these magical girls running around, but I feel like once the Land of Magic is elaborated on more we might get more information on what's up with magical girls.
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Wizards: No sense of right or wrong!
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actually that sounds completely in line with the human condition as its not like modern western societies have any idea what the gently caress they are doing vis a vis foreign societies, or even their own it is an allegory for liberal technocratic society
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The final anime episode is out, it was... fine. I was kind of hoping the last fight would be more exciting and, if I'm honest, more brutal, as it seems like they kind of spent most of the red paint budget on the fight between La Pucelle and Cranberry and there were few actual fights in between, it seemed mostly to be people getting ganked. Though that might be me being influenced by stuff like Bleach that could take 2 or 3 episodes to show a several fights happening simultaneously with a larger cast to draw from. But then I accept that the fight wasn't really the dramatic part of the episode, and I suppose that given the ages of the combatants involved we might have ended up with a nice boat instead of episode 12.
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That was a satisfying last episode. They set everything up with the magical items, and it all paid off pretty well. Swim Swim's death was pretty anticlimactic, although it still stayed within the tone of the show. It was more satisfying watching Fav try to talk his way out of the detestable hole he had dug himself into before Ripple shut him up. I think I hate Fav more the Kyubey because of this episode. Looking back at it, the culmination of everything was Snow White being forced not to abandon her principles, but to find a way to hold onto them in a world that is often cruel and cynical. She had find a way to live up to them in a way that didn't require the sacrifice of other people. She could still be a hero, but she had to stop being a child, and that meant making sacrifices of her own.
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