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So I started reading ahead with the LN translations, and I feel like the story is heading a bit too strongly in a "killing/depressing poo poo porn" direction. It's still interesting and I want to know what happens, but it's a little predictable in the sense that you can usually expect anything you really don't want to happen to end up happening. I like how Snow White flat out says (this doesn't really spoil anything specific, but just in case) "what the gently caress is wrong with all these crazy assholes, gently caress this". edit: Wow, a bunch of LN volumes have been translated. I'm happy to have another escapist anime book to read that isn't total poo poo (like most WNs/LNs). edit2: By the way, the LN does a better job of explaining Ruler's background. The anime just sort of indicates that she was a smug perfectionist rear end in a top hat and hated people because they didn't take her seriously, but the LN emphasizes that her issues primarily stemmed from her completely neglecting any sort of social skills during her life and having no idea how to properly interact with people. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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Ytlaya posted:So I started reading ahead with the LN translations, and I feel like the story is heading a bit too strongly in a "Garbage Show" direction. We were warned... 
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Nov 23, 2016 02:08
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they only need to keep the momentum up for four more episodes and we'll have a good season. we can just pretend the next season, if any, doesn't happen.
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Nov 23, 2016 03:03
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its kinda hosed up that nemurin got the power to show up in peoples dreams and then got told that dream poo poo doesnt count also this anime is about what would happen if the wrong people were powerful... just like in the real world 
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Nov 23, 2016 09:31
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To be clear, I was only referring to the rest of the Volume 1 (which encompasses the anime season); it seems like the story is actually going in an interesting direction in future volumes, and I read that the volumes generally progressively get better.Lucy Heartfilia posted:its kinda hosed up that nemurin got the power to show up in peoples dreams and then got told that dream poo poo doesnt count I think that the powers are dependent upon the girl's specific personality, so Fav (or whoever) doesn't know what sort of power they're going to get when he makes them into a magical girl. edit: By the way, apparently Swim Swim is 11, not 7/8 like I had previously thought. 11 is old enough to know that killing people is wrong, so I think it's safe to say that her actions can be interpreted as her also being a sociopath rather than just child-like innocence/naivety. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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Nov 23, 2016 10:25
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:its kinda hosed up that nemurin got the power to show up in peoples dreams and then got told that dream poo poo doesnt count Yeah, dream candies not counting was messed up. At least have a conversion rate or something. Also, ouch. Ytlaya posted:I think that the powers are dependent upon the girl's specific personality, so Fav (or whoever) doesn't know what sort of power they're going to get when he makes them into a magical girl. I kind of remember when Accel World did this reveal. Everyone was freaking out that a healer appeared but it turned out she was just reversing time because she had major regrets that she desperately wanted to redo.
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Nov 23, 2016 14:36
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To be fair she's still got the superhuman abilities that all magical girls get, and there are honestly more ways to leverage her dream powers to help with candy collection than what some of the others have. Unless you really think Ripple's power of being able to accurately throw shurikens came up all that much in just the peaceful day-to-day collection that was going on before everything went to hell. Or Alice's power of, uh, not dying. That seems really useful in a deathmatch, sure, but given how magical girls seem mostly immune to most mundane stuff in the first place, not terribly useful in general real world problem solving. For example, use the power to find with troubled dreams that you can identify are due to stuff in the real world, then go take a go at fixing said problems. It's not going to terribly help with saving people in burning houses or whatever, but there are certainly ways to use it if you think outside the box. Use it for information-gathering, rather than directly solving the problems. Nemurin just didn't want to bother doing stuff like that, preferring to just be a NEET who stayed in her room.
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Nov 23, 2016 16:42
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Nemurin is actually lucky that she got to have a relatively peaceful death, since she probably would have been violently murdered by one of the other sociopath girls otherwise. Related to the girls sometimes getting weird/useless powers, one of the magical girls in the next LN volume has the power to "cook delicious food." An enjoyable power to be sure, but it's kind of useless for both helping people and fighting (though watch there be some creative way it can be used later or something).
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Nov 24, 2016 00:23
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magical chef is actually really well suited for pve
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Nov 24, 2016 00:31
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Ytlaya posted:Nemurin is actually lucky that she got to have a relatively peaceful death, since she probably would have been violently murdered by one of the other sociopath girls otherwise. she could bribe beerus to destroy the other magical girls for her. sounds p broken if you ask me
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Nov 24, 2016 00:51
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She can trap her enemies under a giant steak, and they would take too much time savoring each bite trying to eat their way out.
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Nov 24, 2016 04:13
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Good news! Ripple's getting a figure!
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Nov 25, 2016 22:15
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For some reason I never noticed that's a skirt this entire time, I thought they were shorts.
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Nov 25, 2016 22:26
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Huh, same here.
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Nov 25, 2016 22:35
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Ytlaya posted:Nemurin is actually lucky that she got to have a relatively peaceful death, since she probably would have been violently murdered by one of the other sociopath girls otherwise. soylent green is magical girls
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Nov 25, 2016 22:55
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On the other hand, it's presumably difficult to track Nemurin if she never leaves her house.
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Nov 25, 2016 23:01
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Some of the magical girls in volume 2 have neat designs. There's this one called Masked Wonder that is based off of American superheroes and is wearing a spandex-looking suit. Here is a link to a google doc with the images of all the characters: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-xISSOHEupLdocxVHMCxdycS-L6OIdDIbDFlOgNQHqQ/edit Masked Wonder is in the bottom left of the second page. I'm also really curious to meet the detective one (I think the Japanese says her ability is to "talk to buildings", which could be really useful in certain situations). The one in the top left of the first page, Clantail, seems to have one of the lamest powers I've seen yet, unless I'm misunderstanding it somehow; she can transform the bottom half of her body into the bottom half of any animal. The first time she uses it is to turn it into a crocodile for a fight, and I had a lot of trouble trying to picture how a half-crocodile human would look. It also sounds like an inferior version of that one Peaky Angels twin who could turn into any life form.
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Honestly, the Peaky Angels were utterly pathetic. "We've got the powers to turn into, respectively, any living form, and any non-living form. We'll use this to, wait for it, sneak up on someone by disguising ourselves as someone they know, and stabbing them with a knife!" Instead of, you know, using any number of the thousands of absolutely horrifyingly dangerous creatures that have lived on this Earth at one point or another and just tearing them apart without bothering with subtlety. Or turning into something more dangerous than a loving knife. I dunno, chopping them in half with a lightsaber sounds good. Hell, for the comedy factor, have the inanimate object one jump from above on top of someone, turning into a gargantuan ACME anvil while doing so. I mean, she turned into a goddamn invisibility cloak, there can't be that many limits on the drat power. Such incredibly powerful abilities, such a completely lovely use of them.
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Ytlaya posted:Here is a link to a google doc with the images of all the characters: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-xISSOHEupLdocxVHMCxdycS-L6OIdDIbDFlOgNQHqQ/edit Cool, they have a Hong Meiling lookalike. Lord Koth posted:Honestly, the Peaky Angels were utterly pathetic. "We've got the powers to turn into, respectively, any living form, and any non-living form. We'll use this to, wait for it, sneak up on someone by disguising ourselves as someone they know, and stabbing them with a knife!"' I don't think they were smart enough to really put their powers to good use. The only plans they ever thought up on their own were a flattering internet video and a series of insulting comments about the other girls. If they hadn't been shanghaied by Ruler, they probably would have ended up dead sooner. Lord Koth also posted:I mean, she turned into a goddamn invisibility cloak, there can't be that many limits on the drat power. The Invisibility Cloak was something Swim Swim bought for the team back when Fav was offering magical items in exchange for years of their lives, actually. 
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Command Ant posted:Cool, they have a Hong Meiling lookalike. That character's name is @NyanNyan, which I guess may be her twitter handle or something? I haven't gotten far enough to learn much about her yet.
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Ytlaya posted:That character's name is @NyanNyan, which I guess may be her twitter handle or something? I haven't gotten far enough to learn much about her yet. That's her name. So you pronouce it At Mark Nyan Nyan.
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Lord Koth posted:Honestly, the Peaky Angels were utterly pathetic. "We've got the powers to turn into, respectively, any living form, and any non-living form. We'll use this to, wait for it, sneak up on someone by disguising ourselves as someone they know, and stabbing them with a knife!" Anime Wonder Twins just as bad as the Wonder Twins. 
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Or like a Dragon, like in that one HFY story I read.
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Don't. gently caress. With. Swim-Swim. Also for those who lost count this episode: Ripple over Calamity Mary Swim-Swim over Top Speed (+1) Scarf noose over Sister Nana Also the new rule was meeeeeeh. Was hoping for something with more impact than from 8 to 4 then probably to 2 and to 1. Alpha Kenny Juan fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Nov 26, 2016 |
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 Sister Nana did not deserve that. And neither did Top Speed Alpha Kenny Juan posted:Don't. gently caress. With. Swim-Swim. Swim-Swim is nearly as invulnerable as Alice in addition to her cold blooded murder of people. Minael was pretty on point with the crazy faces and bloodlust. And oh hey, we appear to have confirmed that Snow White can actually read minds for tactical advantage! Alice reminds me now a bit of Stain from My Hero Academia; I think it would be wonderful for the melodrama if she's like Swim-Swim in that she also just wishes to coldly murder anyone who doesn't live up to her ideal of being a magical girl. e: I think the fight between Ripple and Mary was generally pretty good and what I want from fight scenes in general; a solid grounding in the "physics" of a fight enhanced by their abilities; so you see the judo throws, trips, punches, MMA take downs, and that is very solid with the creative usage of their powers being the cherry on top to create spectacle. The fight between Swim-Swim and Ripple only had about half the elements of a solid fight; the usage of powers were great, but I felt the choreography must've ran out of budget at this point; not that it's fair to judge all fights by Ufotable's standards but I really did expect more from the glaive-on-katana action than what we got that was almost static stills. Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Nov 26, 2016 |
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ripple's "cannot miss" ability really isn't worth much is it? how is a block not considered missing the target? what part of swimming through things involves being penetrated by them? swim swim is bullshit Condiv fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Nov 26, 2016 |
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Nov 26, 2016 21:13
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Well I did not expect Sister Nana to go out that way, holy poo poo.
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Demicol posted:Well I did not expect Sister Nana to go out that way, holy poo poo. I laughed when I was watching and thinking it was bullshit that there wasn't even a death shudder and then two seconds later the pee showed up
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Erg posted:I laughed when I was watching and thinking it was bullshit that there wasn't even a death shudder and then two seconds later the pee showed up That was horrifying that they went there. It was horrifying when I saw the booze; and then the pills what the gently caress were those pills!?
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Condiv posted:ripple's "cannot miss" ability really isn't worth much is it? how is a block not considered missing the target? In the LN Ripple throws a window at Calamity Mary who shot at it thinking Ripple and Top Speed were behind it. The window shattered but still was infused with Ripple's "can't miss a target" magic and cause Calamity Mary to turn into a giant pin cushion.
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Miss Nomer posted:In the LN Ripple throws a window at Calamity Mary who shot at it thinking Ripple and Top Speed were behind it. The window shattered but still was infused with Ripple's "can't miss a target" magic and cause Calamity Mary to turn into a giant pin cushion. Why didn't they keep that in? That's baller.
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Nov 26, 2016 21:53
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Raenir Salazar posted:Why didn't they keep that in? That's baller. Probably issues with getting it past the sensors. Then again we did see someone hang themselves and then lose their bladder control, so who knows.
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Oh god, they actually went there, and then they went somewhere else I wasn't expecting them to go! I suppose there really wasn't any other way for Sister Nana to go out, considering that her reason for being a magical girl and for living was dead. Still, showing her hanging herself in a dark apartment with Weiss' scarf really twisted the knife after seeing Top Speed die. This show has reached Higurashi-levels of cruelty towards its characters. Ripple, Snow White, and Alice are the only ones left that we would feel any grief over losing. Everyone else, it would just be cathartic. I hope we get some backstory on Swim Swim soon, and why she's such a horrid little monster. I was willing to reserve some sympathy for her, because maybe she comes from a broken home and that's why she's so cold-blooded, but then she stabbed a pregnant woman. Miss Nomer posted:In the LN Ripple throws a window at Calamity Mary who shot at it thinking Ripple and Top Speed were behind it. The window shattered but still was infused with Ripple's "can't miss a target" magic and cause Calamity Mary to turn into a giant pin cushion. That's what I was expecting would happen when Ripple tossed all of that broken glass at Mary, or at least that some of it would get in her eyes.
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Miss Nomer posted:Probably issues with getting it past the sensors. Then again we did see someone hang themselves and then lose their bladder control, so who knows. I'm so glad the censors stopped such a horrid scene. Ripple being badass and her ability being useful, who needs that?! 
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Nov 26, 2016 22:50
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What actually happened was pretty similar, just using the glass as a diversion to throw shuriken.
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Even if the fight had ended like that in the anime, everything probably would have happened off-screen, with only the blood and no on-screen piercing being shown.
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Command Ant posted:Ripple, Snow White, and Alice are the only ones left that we would feel any grief over losing. Everyone else, it would just be cathartic. I'd feel "Alas poor villain" at this point for Minael and earthquake girl; Minael is fun to watch and earthquack girl I'm not sure what's up with her, Stockholm Syndrome? Just going through the motions because what else you gunna do when you live in a Dictatorship run by a ruthless prepubescent killer? quote:I hope we get some backstory on Swim Swim soon, and why she's such a horrid little monster. I was willing to reserve some sympathy for her, because maybe she comes from a broken home and that's why she's so cold-blooded, but then she stabbed a pregnant woman. On one hand, I don't think Swim-swim exactly knew; but on the other hand, I think we can safely say she wouldn't care. I really do wanna see what's her deal, I wanna know the thought process running through her head that made her go from betraying Ruler whom she apparently admired to ruthlessly killing her enemies. quote:That's what I was expecting would happen when Ripple tossed all of that broken glass at Mary, or at least that some of it would get in her eyes. I think that may have happened or else I'm not sure why Mary bothered to shoot the glass; even terminal velocity, glass isn't likely to kill her.
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Miss Nomer posted:In the LN Ripple throws a window at Calamity Mary who shot at it thinking Ripple and Top Speed were behind it. The window shattered but still was infused with Ripple's "can't miss a target" magic and cause Calamity Mary to turn into a giant pin cushion. that's way smarter than what happened this episode, but by the description of her own powers ripple's projectiles should phase through or avoid any obstacle until they hit calamity mary. yeah, that's broken, but some of these powers are obv meant to be broken (like swim swims, which just became more broken this episode for some bullshit reason). just mad her true aim ability is really just enhanced accuracy. also, there were numerous glaring points in this episode where ripple could've thrown a projectile and killed mary it's not funny. for example when mary's gun was knocked upward, she was completely open and a dagger to her throat would've worked better than lunging at her 
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I knew this was coming and it was still rough. The Ripple glass scene is, I think, the first scene where the anime made changes for the worse. It probably is censors but given everything else in the story I'm surprised they didn't just play games with camera angles to hide the worst of it. A single shuriken only burying itself a few centimetres into her forehead is actually one of the tamest deaths. The other instance that might be worse is back with Magicaloid 44, who in the novels wasn't planning on killing Snow White and was just going to leave after "killing" Alice. It changes her character a bit, but then in the novels she didn't really have a character at all. Raenir Salazar posted:On one hand, I don't think Swim-swim exactly knew; but on the other hand, I think we can safely say she wouldn't care. I really do wanna see what's her deal, I wanna know the thought process running through her head that made her go from betraying Ruler whom she apparently admired to ruthlessly killing her enemies. Swim Swim is actually pretty simple; she's like eight years old and doesn't really seem like the sharpest eight year old either. She likes princesses and took all of Ruler's words to heart, and took them very literally. She's completely ruthless because she's a young child without much empathy. She kills Winterprison because Winterprison is the strongest and Ruler said you have to kill the strongest enemies.
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Condiv posted:that's way smarter than what happened this episode, but by the description of her own powers ripple's projectiles should phase through or avoid any obstacle until they hit calamity mary. yeah, that's broken, but some of these powers are obv meant to be broken (like swim swims, which just became more broken this episode for some bullshit reason). Like with martial arts we just kinda have to assume that openings we may think exist may not have actually existed in the minds of the characters, nor there muscle memory capable of reacting to it. For example it may have been smarter to attack her throat with her dagger, but to close the distance probably still needed a dash/lunge, and she simply lacked the reflexes to manage anything else in the time frame.
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