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Pollyanna posted:I feel a little bad for Yayaka and I hope she finds happiness. Yayaka is very good, and in the unlikely event that this ever gets any sort of followup I hope it focuses on her.
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Pollyanna posted:I feel a little bad for Yayaka and I hope she finds happiness. Spiritus Nox posted:Yayaka is very good, and in the unlikely event that this ever gets any sort of followup I hope it focuses on her. One thing you probably noticed to some degree is that the tone of the show shifted dramatically, about halfway through, when the screenwriter jumped ship. Yayaka's redemption occurred relatively late in the show, as well. I'm a little bit conflicted about this. On the one hand, the show we got is the show we got, and there's no source material against which to compare it. On the other... was Yayaka really a redeemable character from the start? Up until episode 7 or whatever, Yayaka seemed like the personification of the societal norms that Kokona was doing her best with which to conform. After that, she became a jealous little girl with a crush on Kokona who was also involved in {anime plot bullshit}" So... which is the true Yayaka? Which is the good Yayaka? She's probably the most interesting character to compare across both versions of the show.
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the back half of the show is not something that came totally out of nowhere, the screenwriter did not "jump ship" without talking about things with any of the remaining staff. things might have been presented a bit differently if she had been able to stay on the show, but the back half of the show was largely planned in advance, and the screenwriter even gave the director some tips on screenwriting the papika world episode since it was dealing with subject matter he's not used to writing.
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also, yayaka is not a personification of societal norms. she is a girl who is gay jealous for cocona, who is dealing with similar stuff, and that is literally all she ever was. the tone and subtlety in the show's presentation might have changed, but yayaka's character was always that
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:you've been watching the wrong sorts of magical girl shows, friend please don't be mean to symphogeah
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Yeah, there's an interview we linked/talked about at some point in this thread where Oshiyama mentions that he and Ayana (the series composer for the first half of the show) came up with the overall concept and broad strokes of the story before the show went into production, so it's highly unlikely that Yayaka was ever intended to be anything dramatically different from what we got. Yayaka started off as an agency of conformity (among other things), sure, but her arc was always about her realizing that she was never as happy with that role as she had convinced herself that she was.
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May 21, 2017 03:17
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Yeah Yayaka was always pretty into Cocona (from the start), albeit it took a little thinking on the show while it was running to realize this.
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:you've been watching the wrong sorts of magical girl shows, friend madoka and flip flappers are precisely the magical girl shows he should be watching
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Not if you want a fair idea of what most magical girl shows are like! Most are cute and innocent and actually intended for little girls!
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someone posted the flip flappers ost to youtubes part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xt0vvyMhMs part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSi1Y4VzPac
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Homura and Sickle posted:someone posted the flip flappers ost to youtubes aaaaaaaaaa finally, I've been wanting to hear the slow instrumental versions of the OP and ED.
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It's too cute, someone get the insulin.
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Kytrarewn posted:One thing you probably noticed to some degree is that the tone of the show shifted dramatically, about halfway through, when the screenwriter jumped ship. Yayaka's redemption occurred relatively late in the show, as well. you are literally making stuff up and have no idea what you're talking about, please stop regurgitating stuff some idiot said on 4chan without actually doing research
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Big gallery of broadcast vs bluray comparisons https://imgur.com/a/1CTmK Nothing super dramatic from what i've seen so far, but it sure reminds me i want to own the series myself!
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It's pretty cool to see that they got it pretty much right the first time around, with a fee exceptions. Maybe it's time to Ｆｌｉｐ ｆｌａｐｐｉｎｇ again.
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Granted, it's been a while since I watched the show, butKytrarewn posted:Yayaka seemed like the personification of the societal norms that Kokona was doing her best with which to conform.  This tweeny punk? The personification of societal norms?
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I think that's actually part of the point of her character. Yayaka's entire deal is not being honest with herself.
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quote:(TV broadcast is regulated in Japan to avoid inducing epileptic seizures by compressing brightness dynamic range, I think.) Not sure if a joke or real in response to a Simpsons episode...
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it's real, original tv broadcast versions of shows do it all the time. you can even see it in the mha s2 opening
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Mokinokaro posted:I think that's actually part of the point of her character. Yayaka's entire deal is not being honest with herself. Yeah, my read is kind of along these lines. We're obviously not meant to read the boistrous, mouthy girl with dyed red streaks in her hair as some kind of prim and proper flower child, but I did get the impression that she's someone who ultimately sees the status quo as somewhat reassuring and less frightening than trying to take risks and live the way she really wants to. That's why she goes along with Asclepius' World Control plans and in particular why she's afraid to come clean with Cocona. Spiritus Nox fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Ranzear posted:Not sure if a joke or real in response to a Simpsons episode... Blame porygon
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Speaking of Yayaka: https://twitter.com/DDDDD_DIE/status/873653798060802048
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they're dubbin flip flappers which surprises me cos it fuckin bombed in japan. maybe it will do better in the west, just going by view count on FLIP FLAP FLIP FLAP
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Where is my Flip Flappin' pre order Sentai?
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:i hope the dub is not embarrassing. I hope the dub goes out of its way to establish that all characters in the show are straight as an arrow.
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i hope yayaka screams "gently caress YOU" every ten seconds
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The Colonel posted:i hope yayaka screams "gently caress YOU" every ten seconds same
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The Colonel posted:i hope yayaka screams "gently caress YOU" every ten seconds Except when speaking to Cocona, at which point she will do the same thing but preface it with "I want to".
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yayaka: gently caress YOU rear end in a top hat cocona: m-me?! yayaka: Y-YEAH, SCREW YOU, DUMMY
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I don't normally listen to dubs, but I'm curious as to how the English voice actress will handle all the "Cocona!"s that Papika shouts repeatedly.
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I just hope that, at the very least, it's not anywhere near as embarrassing as the Maidragon dubs were.
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Command Ant posted:I just hope that, at the very least, it's not anywhere near as embarrassing as the Maidragon dubs were.
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At least Flip Flappers told the story it wanted to tell. It's not like we lost anything from the product because it bombed.
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The Colonel posted:also, yayaka is not a personification of societal norms. she is a girl who is gay jealous for cocona, who is dealing with similar stuff, and that is literally all she ever was. the tone and subtlety in the show's presentation might have changed, but yayaka's character was always that I thought the shows biggest plot twist was that she was actually a hetero furry all along?
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Darth Walrus posted:At least Flip Flappers told the story it wanted to tell. It's not like we lost anything from the product because it bombed. i mean it dis-incentivizes risking money on an ambitious anime original story. hopefully get more shows from its director in the future tho
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Homura and Sickle posted:i mean it dis-incentivizes risking money on an ambitious anime original story. hopefully get more shows from its director in the future tho Well, yeah, but could've been a lot worse, is all I'm saying.
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gently caress https://twitter.com/SentaiFilmworks/status/921095508025925633 Yes
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