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clown shoes posted:Question for the room: What was the last episode of this dumb show you would consider good or at least that you enjoyed? Last episode of season 1 I'm just stopping in to see how y'all are doing, I made it like three episodes after the show where Neegan finally shows up and gave up on even hatewatching it.
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Don't be foolhardy enough to think that you can hatewatch the Walking Dead--the Walking Dead already hates you.
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Mar 11, 2018 22:55
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Hasselblad posted:Negan literally lost none of his men. He can still afford to have them everywhere. This all started with Rick and company killing like sixty saviors with zero casualties, and Negan responded not by slaughtering the lot of them, but by killing two of them.
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Mar 12, 2018 04:53
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Koalas March posted:The writers know anything about tone, tension, or setting up proper A & B stories that gel with the seasons overarching plot. They also don't seem to understand properly setting up and executing an overarching plot. It seems like they have no idea what kind of climaxes, resolutions and character development is actually satisfying as a viewer. Historically the show tries to drown you in pathos, creating the most draining, unfun soap opera in the history of mankind. Nothing ever is really resolved except with an ever-growing cloud of death and misery.
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Mar 12, 2018 19:05
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Thompsons posted:I feel like this is an issue the show was always going to have given it's so self-serious and things have taken place over the course of several years. Like it begs all of these questions: how are zombies still ambulatory after years of rotting in the hot sun, why haven't their brains rotted completely, how can they still see or sense anything, why do they even need to eat people at all if the only thing they really die of is getting their heads caved in, etc. As they are clinically dead they are already effectively magical when they do anything at all. And IIRC the entire thing is a radiological phenomenon, back from the first season when this show looked like it might ever go anywhere. It's not a disease or virus--if you die of anything you become a zombie. In that sense, zombie bites being infectious doesn't make any sense, either. Viral catalysts in their saliva? Clearly whatever conspiracy that came up with this poo poo didn't care to be straightforward with how it was all supposed to work.
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Mar 12, 2018 19:42
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JossiRossi posted:It was all part of His plan. Unless something drastic has changed in the writing, the show has at times explicitly made the point that the setting is Purgatory, yes. The only real choice you have is how you get raptured.
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Mar 13, 2018 23:56
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JossiRossi posted:I'm not sure I would give the show this much credit, but I've not noticed this myself. I'm hilariously bad at catching biblical references though so me not seeing it means absolutely nothing. Was this something like in the first season? Well, on a strict theological basis, Purgatory is the wrong word. What I would mean is the much more pop culture Left Behind sense, where the apocalypse is a test of character for people who need to prove whether or not they're worthy: quote:Based on a dispensationalist interpretation of prophecies in the Biblical books of Revelation, Daniel, Isaiah and Ezekiel, Left Behind tells the story of the end times (set in the contemporary era), in which true believers in Christ have been "raptured" (taken instantly to heaven), leaving the world shattered and chaotic. As people scramble for answers, an obscure Romanian politician named Nicolae Jetty Carpathia rises to become secretary-general of the United Nations, promising to restore peace and stability to all nations. What most of the world does not realize is that Carpathia is actually the Antichrist foretold in the Bible. Coming to grips with the truth and becoming born-again Christians, airline pilot Rayford Steele, his daughter Chloe, their pastor Bruce Barnes, and young journalist Cameron "Buck" Williams begin their quest as the Tribulation Force to help save the lost and prepare for the coming Tribulation, in which God will rain down judgment on the world for seven years. Or movies like, well, Purgatory: quote:Britton learns that Refuge is actually Purgatory, where the gunfighters are stranded between Heaven and Hell, hoping to hoping to find a redemptive grace that will bring them salvation as they struggle not to backslide into final damnation. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1087375_purgatory Sounds pretty familiar to Walking Dead plotlines and zombie media in general. But a lot of the characters in The Walking Dead have arcs that are curiously centered around looking for some kind of inner peace that would suggest they're "ready to go," and this gets super loving ham-handed before too long. I think the strongest sense you get of this is when Tyreese is dying. It's a little much to give Walking Dead credit so much as recognize that it has a really muddled set of religious references throughout that don't add up to much.
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Mar 14, 2018 05:51
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Wugga posted:The complete lack of dramaturgy and subtext is really a thing of beauty. I can't get over this last episode: Must get doctor to Hillside. Spend 30 minutes building up this God Leadeth The Blindth thing. BAM doc's dead there is no god gently caress you. Another doctor shows up and goes to live in the trailer. TWD I assume is still making AMC a lot of money, but continues its ratings slide as more and more people give up on it. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/sunday-cable-ratings-march-11-2018/
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Mar 15, 2018 05:41
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And that's after GOT became outright bad this season after a long slide
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Mar 15, 2018 18:19
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This thread is weakening me and I may throw season 7 on Netflix while doing other things.
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Mar 20, 2018 00:56
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Aardark posted:So this is still getting pretty good reviews, right? Or are any "mainstream" reviews finally discussing how this is literally one of the worst shows ever? The AV Club had to replace their reviewer with someone who wasn't outright hatewatching it. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_walking_dead/s08/ I would say that if even TV reviewers, who basically exist to promote TV shows, are hating on you from time to time, the shine is coming off.
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Mar 20, 2018 10:03
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Senor Tron posted:Game Of Thrones is pretty much this and shows that even if the writing gets poo poo you can keep people interested through actually putting some effort into the production of the show. Well... Season 7 of GoT is a really bad show with AAA-movie level production value, and GoT has been declining since the beginning of season 5, which notably is where the showrunners needed to start writing their own material. Frankly since season 2, Walking Dead has been a soap opera where they advance the plot as little as possible and the main draw is a character getting written out, not a character doing a thing. It's a zombie apocalypse where pretty much the entirety of what they're missing are showers. There's infinite bullets, gasoline, and people.
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Mar 21, 2018 03:41
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As far as bad shows I would still put Walking Dead over the last two seasons of X-Files.
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Mar 23, 2018 15:16
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Are they really planning to do like 40 seasons of this loving show or something? Nine tends to be the "OK this is wrapping up" limit for most dramas.
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Mar 24, 2018 19:49
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Then again...
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Mar 24, 2018 20:47
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Princeps32 posted:no seriously when are they going to do negan flashback episode People are like "Negan is the lone bright spot," but Negan's 200% over the top xtreme nihilism, torture pornography, and the general lack of sensible storytelling surrounding just his introduction are what made me finally stop watching this show.
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Mar 26, 2018 18:45
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Are there any sites tracking a savior death count?
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Mar 28, 2018 10:09
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Stickarts posted:It seems at least plot is happening now which is a pretty low bar to clear lol. I love my lovely lumbering zombie soap opera Zeppelin and the season-spanning slow motion crash and explosion I have witnessed. As far as plotting and characters, TWD now follows the daytime soap opera model to a T; the characters are never quite as important as the ridiculous things happening to them, and what's important is who you are supposed to "like" and "dislike," and who's a heel and who's a babyface this week in the interactions. What's not important is whether any of this makes sense or who these people really are. So everything is framed around the next betrayal, team-up, or random disaster. Occasionally someone cuts a promo.
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Apr 3, 2018 00:35
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Apr 4, 2018 23:24
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JossiRossi posted:https://i.imgur.com/P7fydON.mp4 Well I definitely hate this character as much as everyone else does now
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Apr 10, 2018 05:12
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Auron posted:So is Jeff Morgan written off the show and they are just going to casually mention Nega and maybe have a soundboard of him hidden away in a pit? Get ready for an 8-episode arc about the Return of Negan next season.
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Apr 18, 2018 18:35
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From doing some random youtubing, the comic doesn't have cars at all, which makes the continued existence of infinity gasoline on the show even dumber.
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Apr 23, 2018 19:24
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SocketWrench posted:This is true. My old man had a truck out in his field for just over five years that just needed a battery swap and it started just fine. Well you see, in the span of eight seasons, five weeks have passed
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Apr 28, 2018 20:35
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Astroman posted:http://collider.com/andrew-lincoln-leaving-walking-dead-season-9/#images As I understand it he barely has a speaking role in the last two seasons. Norman Reedus is cool and good so he could probably helm it, but the show will still be terrible, so...
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May 29, 2018 22:38
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Hasselblad posted:
Man don't run all the way over here to mod sass about someone probating your favorite Nazi.
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Jun 27, 2018 03:26
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LadyPictureShow posted:Didn’t MK have Freddy Kruger, Jason Voorhees, and Leatherface at one point? Don't forget the Alien.
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Aug 9, 2018 11:37
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JazzFlight posted:Well, according to Norm MacDonald, Chris got a bad rap: This is not a great kickoff to Norm working with Netflix. I do get sick of "apolitical" branded celebrities revealing that they are in fact very political, it's just grounded in not knowing what the gently caress they are talking about.
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Sep 11, 2018 18:43
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:The transition to soap opera but with zombies is going to be awesome. It's been that for virtually the whole time.
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Sep 15, 2018 08:22
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galenanorth posted:I was kinda hoping the show would eventually settle into a Star Trek-but-with-zombies hopeful tone instead of flailing about between "we have to do the things that aren't morally easy to survive" and "it doesn't have to be this way" on loop with sweaty close-ups. The people that don't act like people anymore because they're Borg-like identical vessels for sets of opposing platitudes which are swapped around between characters like musical chairs. That's basically the reason the show has declined to season 1 viewing numbers. Rick has gone insane and become Evil Rick like what, three times now? His supporting cast of stupid idiots is just relentlessly cycled in and out and the storytelling is getting weaker and weaker, with a shrinking budget as well.
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Sep 15, 2018 09:10
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The whole "let's settle this in the middle of a field!!!" with all the bullshit plot mechanics and gun unsafety and all the other terrible things going on is more or less we_ran_out_of_budget.mpg. Making any of that convincing or sensible requires some off-screen talent that the show simply does not pay for. What they did pay for is one of the all-time stupidest scenes of anything in TV history.
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Sep 21, 2018 08:28
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The last season of GoT, after two seasons of being not that good, was a total loving disaster as far as writing goes. They seem to be wrapping it up half-assedly so everyone on the creative team can move on to more lucrative projects.
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Nov 1, 2018 12:20
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"It was all a dream" is pretty much the only way they can write themselves to a good ending at this point.
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Nov 3, 2018 15:30
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Introducing the new Deadtime TV movie series. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-expansion-plans-revealed-andrew-lincoln-movies-new-series-come-1157921 quote:The actor, who officially departed the flagship series Sunday, will reprise his role as Rick Grimes in a trio of big-budget, feature-length movies that will air on the basic cable network. Content chief Scott M. Gimple talks with The Hollywood Reporter about his larger plan for the franchise. It would seem to me the plan is to leave the original series high and dry and keep digging until they hit China.
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Nov 6, 2018 00:22
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:In 6 years whatever zombies are left should be rotted shambles with barely any ability to move or do anything threatening As it turns out, the only area of the world that's still apocalyptic six years later is rural Georgia.
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Nov 6, 2018 01:25
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I mean judging by Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, and basically every other group of people outside of SA this is pretty much what happened. Lots of news sites have been falling all over themselves to praise the show this season and last night’s episode was no exception. Reddit is a hugbox and a net stain on human discourse, with other social media not far behind. Among critics this is one of the most hated shows on television, which is remarkable, because most TV critics do nothing but paid advertising for TV shows. It does remain the most watched basic cable TV show, which is like being king of poo poo mountain, even after losing millions upon millions of viewers and going down to s1 viewership levels.
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lol efb:moist turtleneck posted:chill horses I know this is like the 200th instance of this in TWD, but the brain isn't located in the chin. There's so few real ways to kill a zombie that they just got lazy.
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Nov 8, 2018 04:16
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lezard_valeth posted:Am I the only one that never liked post s2 Hershel? There must always be a Dale in Winterfell.
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Nov 13, 2018 11:18
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Dolphin posted:And if he actually is gone, enigmatically sending him away in a helicopter is the single worst writing decision I've ever witnessed in any medium, ever. Pretty much every Pirates movie after the first one, in ascending orders of madness? The movie ending of The Mist? Midichlorians? The way the last season of The Walking Dead ended?
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Nov 15, 2018 04:09
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Big Mean Jerk posted:The Darabont movie? That ending rocks, even King has said he prefers it to the book ending. King thinks The Shining sucks though
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Both these actors are great and I hope they continue to get better work than this miserable show.
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