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vandalism
Aug 4, 2003
Snowrunner is so good. The big trucks that you unlock in Russia are insane. Not too fast or maneuverable but those big tires really get you there. The Don one is my favorite heavy so far.

I wish the Pacific p16 could pack a low saddle.

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Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

madeintaipei posted:

Now that I have all the findable trucks in N. America, truckception is a go. So far we have a sideboard GMC with a Scout 800 in back, towing a ramped bumper-pull trailer with a flatbed Fleetstar on it and a Silverado on top. The whole combo only starts moving in low+ and diffs locked, but from there you can go into auto. Lots of shifting down to manage speed. It really doesn't turn or stop, but in a straight line no one can touch me. Pia to set up, none of the vehicles have rooftop winch points for the crane so you have to get lined up and lift up and over. Guess our little guy isn't much of a rigger. Too bad the large Pacific can't seem to climb onto a heavy trailer.

The GMC is by far my favorite truck. I feel like starting a new game and just duplicating 5-6 of them and trying to complete the game that way.
The temptation to use the duplication glitch is strong, but I've limited it to copying the GMC so there's one off-road truck and one on-road truck with highway trans.

No pics? We need pics of this monstrosity.

Anime Store Adventure
May 6, 2009


I’m about to finish Michigan 100% and I’m both stingy and have plenty of money and trucks.

But I’m going to spend 2 hours fastidiously clearing the map of every trailer for cash. I can’t help it.

QuasiQuack
Jun 13, 2010

Ducks hockey baybee

madeintaipei posted:

The GMC is by far my favorite truck. I feel like starting a new game and just duplicating 5-6 of them and trying to complete the game that way.
The temptation to use the duplication glitch is strong, but I've limited it to copying the GMC so there's one off-road truck and one on-road truck with highway trans.

How do you do the glitch? I'm constantly doing it by accident and getting flooded with trucks. Knowing how to do it might help me get it under control.. :v:

GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.
Someone dug into the tires in Snowrunner: https://www.reddit.com/r/snowrunner/comments/gfap16/i_wondered_about_the_differences_between_the_tire/

Things of note:

- Chained tires have a "Ignore Ice" Flag and are terrible in mud
- If you ever looked at the tire threads and - for example - thought "That MHS-II tire looks like it should be better in mud than the MHS-III" you're probably right
- The P16 has special tires that are crazy good in mud which explains why I was so disappointed with how the P12 felt after switching to that because it has more frame addons

QuasiQuack
Jun 13, 2010

Ducks hockey baybee

GhostDog posted:

Someone dug into the tires in Snowrunner: https://www.reddit.com/r/snowrunner/comments/gfap16/i_wondered_about_the_differences_between_the_tire/

Things of note:

- Chained tires have a "Ignore Ice" Flag and are terrible in mud
- If you ever looked at the tire threads and - for example - thought "That MHS-II tire looks like it should be better in mud than the MHS-III" you're probably right
- The P16 has special tires that are crazy good in mud which explains why I was so disappointed with how the P12 felt after switching to that because it has more frame addons

The P16 is such a god damned beast. I used it for the final oil rig mission in Michigan, dragging the service trailer from the port to the site in Smithville Dam.
Took the shortcut down the mountain and across the river without a single issue. :vince:

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Blind Rasputin posted:

No pics? We need pics of this monstrosity.

Is there a way to do this through my phone? I have no computer. Maybe share it on PSN, d/l to phone, post through Imgur?

Lol, got super stuck on the Out With the Old contract. The construction rig is sideways in the river (along with a big Pacific) and the drill parts slid down the north shore road. Guess I'll take the long way around. Probably try a bigger truck than the Kodiak, too. Did get the drill parts within 500m of the drilling site, front wheels up in the air half the time.

So much fun doing things the hard way.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

QuasiQuack posted:

How do you do the glitch? I'm constantly doing it by accident and getting flooded with trucks. Knowing how to do it might help me get it under control.. :v:

Drive truck onto Mountain gateway in Alaska, go to main menu, start co-op game, switch to truck and transit to Mountain map, recover truck, retain truck, exit co-op. Upon loading into single player, flip through Alaska maps until you find the truck you were using, switch to truck, watch it fall 200ft from the sky, recover. Now you have two trucks. It trivializes money troubles, so I just used it to have two GMC's so I don't have to keep reconfiguring the thing.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

madeintaipei posted:

Is there a way to do this through my phone? I have no computer. Maybe share it on PSN, d/l to phone, post through Imgur?

Lol, got super stuck on the Out With the Old contract. The construction rig is sideways in the river (along with a big Pacific) and the drill parts slid down the north shore road. Guess I'll take the long way around. Probably try a bigger truck than the Kodiak, too. Did get the drill parts within 500m of the drilling site, front wheels up in the air half the time.

So much fun doing things the hard way.

Using this app and +/- imgur, yes. I am on xbone and the Xbox app allows any screenshots to be saved from the app on your phone to your phone’s photos.

On PSN I’m not sure, but here’s two options. If you can use a psn function or psn app to get the pic on your phone, in the awful app you can hold down (right click) and find the “image” option and directly post the pic into a post from your library. Alternative is loading the pic to imgur first and posting the Imgur link. Uploading videos to Imgur and posting them as gifs is the easiest way to share a video on the awful app.

A second option is I believe boat psn and Xbox allow you to share stuff directly to a twitter account? Just post the tweet link here. They work well for pics and videos.

Anime Store Adventure
May 6, 2009


madeintaipei posted:

Drive truck onto Mountain gateway in Alaska, go to main menu, start co-op game, switch to truck and transit to Mountain map, recover truck, retain truck, exit co-op. Upon loading into single player, flip through Alaska maps until you find the truck you were using, switch to truck, watch it fall 200ft from the sky, recover. Now you have two trucks. It trivializes money troubles, so I just used it to have two GMC's so I don't have to keep reconfiguring the thing.

FWIW I don’t think you even have to do this at a specific gateway, I accidentally duped a truck when my friend showed up wanting to play coop in Michigan right after I went to Island Lake from the Dam. I recovered to make a trip down with him and when we got back to the Lake map we drove past my truck that I was currently driving. It didn’t follow your exact steps, but for those trying to avoid the glitch, it definitely has something to do with coop and region switching just before/after starting the game up.

That said, play your own game and use it if you don’t care about the money aspect. Even if you do, money is fairly trivial beyond the first few hours of Michigan anyway unless you want 100% of the trucks, fully equipped, at all times.

Hot Tip for anyone new or starting: I would do Michigan first to completion for progressions sake. It’s a little easier than the other maps so it’s a logical progression and you’ll be good and sick of green by the time you’re done, so Alaska will feel fresh and new. That said: Scout Michigan early for upgrades, then before you get too deep into the region, jump to at least the first map of Alaska and grab the hummer (if you like it) and upgrades. There are some truck upgrades in the first region of Alaska that really feel necessary if you want to branch out.

For example, I got the CAT Semitruck which looks cool and has more power/fuel than the Fleetstar, but it didn’t have AWD until I grabbed it in Alaska, so I wasn’t willing to use it for tougher jobs. Those few upgrades from scouting Alaska’s first map really helped diversify my initial truck fleet.

Also there really isn’t any hard reason besides scouting upgrades to start with one region over another as far as I can see, so if you really want to, go jump into Russia or Alaska. Russia especially, since its upgrades and trucks are self contained.

AnimalChin
Feb 1, 2006
I am terrible at this game and I feel like a big stupid dumb idiot moron. I can never figure out what to do next. Feels like one thing is gated behind another thing which is gated behind another thing and so on. :|


Anime Store Adventure posted:

FWIW I don’t think you even have to do this at a specific gateway, I accidentally duped a truck when my friend showed up wanting to play coop in Michigan right after I went to Island Lake from the Dam. I recovered to make a trip down with him and when we got back to the Lake map we drove past my truck that I was currently driving. It didn’t follow your exact steps, but for those trying to avoid the glitch, it definitely has something to do with coop and region switching just before/after starting the game up.

That said, play your own game and use it if you don’t care about the money aspect. Even if you do, money is fairly trivial beyond the first few hours of Michigan anyway unless you want 100% of the trucks, fully equipped, at all times.

Hot Tip for anyone new or starting: I would do Michigan first to completion for progressions sake. It’s a little easier than the other maps so it’s a logical progression and you’ll be good and sick of green by the time you’re done, so Alaska will feel fresh and new. That said: Scout Michigan early for upgrades, then before you get too deep into the region, jump to at least the first map of Alaska and grab the hummer (if you like it) and upgrades. There are some truck upgrades in the first region of Alaska that really feel necessary if you want to branch out.

For example, I got the CAT Semitruck which looks cool and has more power/fuel than the Fleetstar, but it didn’t have AWD until I grabbed it in Alaska, so I wasn’t willing to use it for tougher jobs. Those few upgrades from scouting Alaska’s first map really helped diversify my initial truck fleet.

Also there really isn’t any hard reason besides scouting upgrades to start with one region over another as far as I can see, so if you really want to, go jump into Russia or Alaska. Russia especially, since its upgrades and trucks are self contained.

^ This is all very helpful. Thank you.

GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.
I'm pretty convinced now that once you get the raised suspension for the Loadstar 1700 and the 43" UOD-II tires it's the best of the four early scouts.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
Mechanically yeah but I really like roleplaying as a redneck in the pickup or hummer.

Loadstar is almost cheating, it's a truck engine on a utility truck frame.

GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.
The pickup I can accept but I always found the Hummer to be really ugly. Also I've spent so many hours already, I'll take a little bit of cheating if the game gives it to me. I sold the Khan, if that restores my honor somewhat :)

Anime Store Adventure
May 6, 2009


I love the pickup but it feels inferior to the hummer unless you use the FuelFuck engine upgrade. I’ve been meaning to try the lodestar but it loses on style points. I feel like such a tool in my hummer and I love it.

Anime Store Adventure
May 6, 2009


AnimalChin posted:

I am terrible at this game and I feel like a big stupid dumb idiot moron. I can never figure out what to do next. Feels like one thing is gated behind another thing which is gated behind another thing and so on. :|


^ This is all very helpful. Thank you.

If you’re lost about what to do, check contracts and tasks and then nearby trailers on the map. There’s sort of a puzzle in and of itself of where the already placed cargo on the map can go easily. Take your pick of a job, then figure out where you can find the cargo for it, and then figure out what’s near the end of the job that can go somewhere else.

You don’t necessarily need to operate this way, but a lot of times it seems like you can sort of clear a section of a map with 1-2 back and forth trips well planned out.

But I realize that’s a little vague and if you don’t have a brain for that weird sort of puzzle, there’s absolutely no harm in just picking a mission and saying “I’ll do this now.” There’s not really an order with one major exception: You want to do any missions that build a bridge or clear a road ASAP, generally, so you can have easier routes.

Beyond that it’s picking the right truck for the terrain and that’s mostly a mix of scouting and experience with your trucks.

e: and if you really need help jump on that discord linked earlier and if I’m around We can jump on coop or I can talk you through what to look for.

Anime Store Adventure fucked around with this message at 23:21 on May 12, 2020

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
Does anybody have anything good or bad to say about Gold Rush before the sale ends? Wouldn't mind an alternative to Farm Sim for repetitive task zoning out for $15 and have caught something of a dig for gold bug from messing around with Hydroneer.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

zedprime posted:

Does anybody have anything good or bad to say about Gold Rush before the sale ends? Wouldn't mind an alternative to Farm Sim for repetitive task zoning out for $15 and have caught something of a dig for gold bug from messing around with Hydroneer.

Pros: It's relatively low on bugs and jank these days and works pretty well. There is a good sense of accomplishment once you get out of the panning around in the mud stage and start setting up a real mining rig.

Cons: I found the tutorials lacking in some respects, be prepared to do a little youtubing to figure some things out. Also, and this is personal perspective only, but I didn't find the core loop of the game all that fun once you get to the big machine phase. The digging with the excavators can just be kind of a pain in the rear end, and that is 90% of what you are doing. Still, that's my own personal opinion, you may like it more -- if you are a farm sim fan, you are also well-acquainted with gameplay loops like "driving in circles for an hour" (which I don't mind).

Wrr
Aug 8, 2010


Feeling a bit surly that this big cool offroad truck I found in Alaska doesn't seem to be better at offroading than this heavy duty truck I got at the Michigan garage. It has raised suspension and the good mud tires and it can't make it down that mud-lake road to start "cleaning up the junk" in Alaska. How irritatin''

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
The BM17 is cool looking but I'm puzzled how an off-road truck doesn't have a locking diff option. It's a highway truck for military improved dirt roads I guess. Doesn't help when it's stuck in mud.

You can traverse a ton of the Alaska map on iced road though so I guess it could be worse?

I think I've spoiled myself with the White Western Star. All of the strengths of the Paystar and Fleetstar in one frame without the tippyness of either.

GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.
The game just doesn't seem to encourage using different kind of trucks enough. In Alaska I thought maybe it would make sense to use a chained highway truck on the long ice roads and then transfer cargo via crane for the last legs across mud, but the way the contracts are set up - and how much the UI gets in your way trying to plan doing several at once - just doesn't make it worth it. Much easier to just use a mudtire truck for everything, take it slow on the ice and do each contract one after the other.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
The trucks look nice when they get dirty so I have an excuse that least use them for one task or contract.

I've found a good way to use more heavy trucks or specialized trucks is to use something like a generalized truck (My White Western Star with chained tires) until it gets stuck in mud and use the off-road specialist or heavy to tow it out.

The biggest problem with this is the chained tires problems in mud are greatly exaggerated. They're similar to all terrain which is enough to keep moving in any mud that doesn't come up to your body while diff locked. So I haven't actually gotten stuck besides the time I had a P12 tow a P6 with mud tires for Floating Drill through the mud doldrums at the turn off to the main road.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

StarkRavingMad posted:

Pros: It's relatively low on bugs and jank these days and works pretty well.
I got in just in time for a patch that introduced a massive physics bug where references/pinning to vehicle beds don't get updated when loading and unloading so everything accordion blasts out of your truck and then anchors your truck in place. Truck very nearly took off flying at one point.

Otherwise this is exactly the My Summer Car like garbage I'm looking for in an industrial simulator. Slotting parts in and laying cables is my actual idea of a video game good time these days.

E VVVVVVVV
Need to start heading my post about which niche simulator I'm talking about now that I've got two on my plate. This one is for Gold Rush, a game with singleplayer pick-up truck loading makes the multiplayer physics in Snowrunner look bulletproof.

zedprime fucked around with this message at 20:53 on May 15, 2020

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

zedprime posted:

I got in just in time for a patch that introduced a massive physics bug where references/pinning to vehicle beds don't get updated when loading and unloading so everything accordion blasts out of your truck and then anchors your truck in place. Truck very nearly took off flying at one point.

Otherwise this is exactly the My Summer Car like garbage I'm looking for in an industrial simulator. Slotting parts in and laying cables is my actual idea of a video game good time these days.

I was in a coop session yesterday and flipped someone's loaded truck back upright, pinning the cargo to the ground and sending the truck straight into the tree tops where it stayed. I left the session after that, let 'em figure that one out.

Phobeste
Apr 9, 2006

never, like, count out Touchdown Tom, man
gently caress the stupid construction trailer in not a drill. gently caress it for needing a high saddle and gently caress me for not realizing it and gently caress all the stupid roads in that corner of the map and gently caress me again for probably going back to it tomorrow lol

E for actual content: it is weird how inconsistent some of the tutorial stuff is. Some missions or at least one definitely say “you need a high saddle for this” and some don’t. A lot of the tips are... overzealous too. I know I’m stuck in the goddamned mud don’t keep telling me to use awd or winch, don’t tell me “notice your current objective has changed” and pop up notifications for all the missions every tine I change map. Stupid freaking labor of love with slightly rough edges

Phobeste fucked around with this message at 04:03 on May 17, 2020

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
You can turn off tips in options menu. You must turn off tips in options menu or you will throw your controller at the monitor.

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".
I’m on Xbox and have been relatively bug free until now. But I dropped the cargo on one of the missions/contracts and am having a heck of a time putting it back on a truck.

The trucks seem to want to phase through each other as well as the cargo. I think it has something to do with their proximity to one another or something. Smells like a crappy workaround put in the code to keep things from getting worse but it’s causing me no end of grief.

Line up truck with fallen cargo nearby. Get crane truck positioned. Grab cargo, line it up above target truck/trailer. Watch helpless as cargo drops right through the loving thing and lands on the ground.

I’ve tried restarting the Xbox, going to the main menu, dropping the cargo onto the truck, slowly lowering it onto the truck. I haven’t restarted the contract yet, but I guess I’ll have to.

Just FYI, I’m case anyone runs into the same thing. Sucks

QuasiQuack
Jun 13, 2010

Ducks hockey baybee
Try stacking all the cargo in top of each other. Usually works for me. If it's too tall it might take a few rounds to get everything packed. It sucks indeed.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
I think the consoles are hardcoded as equivalent to PC physics = medium. The lower the setting, the more you run into phasing on for non active trucks and trailers. Make sure the engines on, you're in truck switch range, and gently caress with positioning just so. Its dumb and broken and every patch claims it fixed it and better get fixed.

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

When I craned cargo from one truck to the other and it fell through the truck, I got into it and used the “pack cargo” command which reset the boxes into their correct position.

Disappointing Pie
Feb 7, 2006
Words cannot describe what a disaster the pie was.
Someone in the management thread reminded me that I used to have a fair amount of fun with an old DOS style Stock Trader interface game. You started out with X number of dollars and could look up companies and read about them then choose to invest in them and see what happens. It honestly might have been on and old Tandy PC lol.

Is there anything out there like this? Or does anyone remember what game that might have been?

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Disappointing Pie posted:

Someone in the management thread reminded me that I used to have a fair amount of fun with an old DOS style Stock Trader interface game. You started out with X number of dollars and could look up companies and read about them then choose to invest in them and see what happens. It honestly might have been on and old Tandy PC lol.

Is there anything out there like this? Or does anyone remember what game that might have been?

On DOS I'd say Inside Trader. If it's not that try Black Monday, Acquire, or Corporate Raider: The Pirate Of Wall Street. NES had a similar stock broker game, Wall Street Kid.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
Isn't there a website where you're given funny money to use on the actual markets?

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

Isn't there a website where you're given funny money to use on the actual markets?

You could do that yourself with a spreadsheet.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
Cross posting from the VR thread:

Derail Valley the train simulator launched a huge update today, that they are calling Overhauled, and it's so extensive it might as well be Derail Valley 2.0. It works in both VR and outside of VR.

Launch trailer for Overhauled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_XCdfc-Exk

They did six short videos building up to the release about the changes:
Introduction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUW4fWUM40o
General Improvements: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGiabrJakb4
Couplers, Derailing and more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLXbuLw7bnk
World Rework: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTsz_HDvAKc
Fees, Licenses, and Insurance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLKKTu5MG4g
Jobs, HAZMAT, and More: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qogr2xgfOjw

It's a game I've had fun with for awhile, but it was so janky that it was hard to recommend. I haven't spent too much time with the update yet, but it looks to smooth out a lot of the issues. If you like trains and want to shovel some coal, it's a good time to jump in (and even more so if you have VR).

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I remember when I was in middle school, we did something in a class where you could pretend to trade real stocks. It was probably some website.

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012

Cojawfee posted:

I remember when I was in middle school, we did something in a class where you could pretend to trade real stocks. It was probably some website.

Surely nowadays they just let kids trade on margin with Robin Hood right?

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



StarkRavingMad posted:

Cross posting from the VR thread:

Derail Valley the train simulator launched a huge update today, that they are calling Overhauled, and it's so extensive it might as well be Derail Valley 2.0. It works in both VR and outside of VR.

Awesome! I've been waiting for that, and it looks great from the videos.

ColonelJohnMatrix
Jun 24, 2006

Because all fucking hell is going to break loose

Just picked up Snowrunner on PS4 and it feels like a nice upgrade over Mudrunner. I like having various objectives and I love the different scenery versus the vanilla mud runner muted greys and similar colors.

I've just started and what's the recommended hauler for all the stuff in Michigan?

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zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

ColonelJohnMatrix posted:

Just picked up Snowrunner on PS4 and it feels like a nice upgrade over Mudrunner. I like having various objectives and I love the different scenery versus the vanilla mud runner muted greys and similar colors.

I've just started and what's the recommended hauler for all the stuff in Michigan?
At the beginning you'll be relying on the Fleetstar at first (it's sitting next to the garage), Paystar when you can afford it, and back to Fleetstar when it gets off-road tires. Fleetstar has better center of gravity so it takes off past the Paystar when you can outfit it for offroading. The Paystar default loadout is decent at off roading so there's a bit of time it's better but by God it's tippy.

Won't spoil much past that besides if you explore a bit you can pick up some heavy trucks that are useful for heavy truck things but also for selling and buying a different heavy truck if you'd like.

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