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Metal Ray Sunshine posted:So maybe I just misunderstood the scene, but was the part in the cafe with the author and flashback, or was he simply having a mental breakdown? Mental breakdown
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Allarion posted:Mental breakdown That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. And speaking of possibly misunderstanding things, I don't know how the author meant for them to be portrayed, but I don't like the two veteran girls. The older one just seems pissed off at everything, while the younger one can't seem to decide if she wants to help the younger actors or protect her own interests. Maybe it's only because we are still in the first half of the show, but none of their intentions seem clear, and seem to only exist to throw Chitose off when she becomes extra smarmy
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Nov 12, 2016 07:14
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Oh god, Yae is as evil as we guessed she was.
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Metal Ray Sunshine posted:That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. And speaking of possibly misunderstanding things, I don't know how the author meant for them to be portrayed, but I don't like the two veteran girls. The older one just seems pissed off at everything, while the younger one can't seem to decide if she wants to help the younger actors or protect her own interests. Maybe it's only because we are still in the first half of the show, but none of their intentions seem clear, and seem to only exist to throw Chitose off when she becomes extra smarmy The tall one (whose name I can't remember because it never really comes up) is pretty straightforward. She's very serious about acting. Right now she's on a show with three nobodies who aren't even close to her level, and on top of that it seems nobody on production is trying seriously either. And there's another cour of that to go. So every time she's on screen she's kinda pissed off about something. She also very clearly hates all the non-acting "industry" bits, like the various events and things that aren't Real Serious Acting. She'd probably consider helping Chitose if she thought it would: a) get through, and b) she thought Chitose was properly serious about acting. (I kinda feel like she's on the same level as that brother, actually; the difference being that Chitose is entirely his problem to deal with, since he's not an actor (of whatever kind, I don't think they said) but a manager now.) Momoka is constantly repeating stuff her dad's said, and she's probably doing the same for stuff her mom's said to her*. She also seems to actually enjoy playing senpai, so long as nobody mentions her mother (which is pretty understandable, given her position). If she doesn't at all enjoy doing all the extra non-recording work, she's at least a good enough sport to keep that to herself. And even the recording work she does is, by her account, "good enough." They're kinda like two different views on what the job's about : the person who's really passionate about acting and the person who wants their paycheck. I mean, they both have to help the other three with stuff like those events, because that'd drag them down too (as an aside, I really liked how they just had to share an annoyed glance before coming up with a plan for the episode 1 "unveiling"); but they're not really meant to be mentors or whatever, so they'd probably default to being like in the recordings — make an excuse that you have to leave, knock out your work, and leave the rest to flounder on their own time. They're both "pros," not kindly senpais or whatever, so if you're thinking about them solely in relation to the three who are slightly more-protagonist-y I can see why you'd not like them much. I think it's pretty great that they're not just accessories orbiting Chitose's little world. So I suppose if I had to say what their "intentions" are, they'd be: 1) work; 2) get paid; 3) try to mitigate the present trainwreck. Although it seemed like Manger Brother thinks they (or at least Chitose) should be doing more for point three, and I don't really know what he's after. Is his point more "even if the show's utter poo poo, do as good a job as you can so you can get better work properly"? I guess his comment at the end of episode 5 was more about how after taking Momoka's "emulate another role" to heart, she just kinda stopped there to bask in the nice things people said on twitter, rather than continue to be less crap. I mean she's not even slightly trying to hide her awfulness anymore! And although I do love those awful little songs of hers, that's all definitely "stuff you shouldn't be saying in the ready room if you want to keep finding work." * I think it's pretty funny that Chitose just flat-out repeats things Momoka says to her, because she doesn't manage it with nearly as much finesse as Momoka (also without the "…so my father says" escape valve), which echoes her method of acting. It's great!
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Nov 12, 2016 10:27
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As a side note, did anyone feel the last episode kinda felt a little weirdly paced at parts? Like metal ray, I initially thought there was random flashback not a full on author breakdown. Things just seemed a little wonky, maybe I was just tired though who knows?
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Nov 12, 2016 18:25
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I don't really see how you could parse the author scene as a flashback when the other guy is going "Ehhhh?" and there's the through-line of the nature documentary in the background connecting the scenes and placing them all at the exact same time.
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Nov 12, 2016 18:28
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Zenostein posted:* I think it's pretty funny that Chitose just flat-out repeats things Momoka says to her, because she doesn't manage it with nearly as much finesse as Momoka (also without the "…so my father says" escape valve), which echoes her method of acting. It's great! 
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Nov 12, 2016 19:10
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There is no Kuusure anime
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Endorph posted:I don't really see how you could parse the author scene as a flashback when the other guy is going "Ehhhh?" and there's the through-line of the nature documentary in the background connecting the scenes and placing them all at the exact same time. There's also the "Season 2 Announced!" books on the table between the two. Episode 6 spoiler: they finally get new outfits
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Nov 12, 2016 21:44
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Brutal  
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Nov 13, 2016 09:14
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Nov 13, 2016 09:18
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lmao
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Nov 13, 2016 11:53
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that was amazing
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Nov 13, 2016 13:48
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I'm dumb and didn't really understand what the spreadsheet at the beginning was about. Did it show Kuzu embezzling funds or just that they were out of budget before the halfway mark
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Nov 13, 2016 13:51
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Erg posted:I'm dumb and didn't really understand what the spreadsheet at the beginning was about. Did it show Kuzu embezzling funds or just that they were out of budget before the halfway mark I'm guessing it's spending 1.9 million on the marketing account, unannounced, long after the marketing efforts should be finished.
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Nov 13, 2016 14:03
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nielsm posted:I'm guessing it's spending 1.9 million on the marketing account, unannounced, long after the marketing efforts should be finished. Basically Kuzu took a vacation and came up with an excuse for expensing it to his company.
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Nov 13, 2016 14:14
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Ohhhh okay cool
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Nov 13, 2016 14:21
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Except that sheet has episode production costs in Oct/Nov/Dec, which makes it seem like those are the projected numbers for season 2, since season one began in July and they just held the season end party for it at the end of episode 6 (meaning it's currently late Septemberish in the story?). My current guess is that it's just showing the estimated sales for season 2, and they are abysmal.
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Nov 13, 2016 14:44
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 from audience member to cast member... also https://twitter.com/Erietty_55/status/796745576842788864 glad that yae's true dark heart is showing
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Nov 13, 2016 14:46
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You guys are way overthinking the spreadsheet. It's just showing that that anime is way into the red. The production costs were $1.2 million but the projected sales don't even come close to that.
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Nov 13, 2016 17:30
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Wow that episode was brutal. And it looks like next episode will be even worse...
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Nov 13, 2016 17:59
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I wonder what the promotion for the show was/is like. Were the seiyuus advertising a show about the horrible inner workings of anime production in that exact same frame? Do they have to pretend none of that bitterness appears among themselves?
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Nov 13, 2016 19:39
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Chitose is the worst. I love it.
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Nov 14, 2016 07:01
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Nov 14, 2016 10:14
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this is such a shitshow I mean, not GN, it's a good show, but the kuusure or whatever, and everyone involved in it
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Nov 15, 2016 05:32
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Was there a Kuusure situation IRL?
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Nov 15, 2016 05:38
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there's not a specific show that it's meant to map to, but there definitely have been shows with pretty disastrous production wizard barristars comes to mind as an example no one cares about, there was a recent show (Regalia?) that basically stopped airing and restarted after a break after the first four eps due to production issues, and the God Eater anime was a debacle iirc
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Nov 15, 2016 05:40
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I think Diomedia might be referencing one of their own projects a bit too, but I don't know which one
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Nov 15, 2016 07:27
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good ep. poor koto, tho.
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Nov 16, 2016 22:55
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lol I can't believe I missed this.
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Nov 16, 2016 23:51
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How do you pronounce Gi(a)rlish Number?
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Nov 17, 2016 10:41
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horriblePencilist posted:How do you pronounce Gi(a)rlish Number? Garish nightmare. Can't wait to see what's made Kazuka such a mess of a person~ Well, besides probably 'your mother and father in the countryside are crying.' Theatre family? I'm thinking theatre family. Was it ever mentioned how old she is? Kinda seems like she's way closer to "anime spinster" age, given that chat with Koto. Also I think my new favorite character is Momoka's producer/manager. She's nice to Momoka and she threatened to kill Kuzu. Perfect! z0glin Warchief posted:Except that sheet has episode production costs in Oct/Nov/Dec, which makes it seem like those are the projected numbers for season 2, since season one began in July and they just held the season end party for it at the end of episode 6 (meaning it's currently late Septemberish in the story?). Part of the problem is that the disk sales projections from March onward are copy-pasted, with some random marketing expenses in March and April for ??? (S2 commercials?) Not sure what the sudden +30 million yen in April is for, though. Can't be for production costs, because that's only ~2 episodes (from the Oct–Dec run). But it seems that's when they start taking in money for broadcasts again — so I presume that's when the second season starts? There's no way this poo poo'd get re-run, surely. Man, if only someone'd hold a newspaper up to the camera in a single shot~  This is hella "one time, at band camp…"
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Nov 17, 2016 12:38
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Every time I think Kuzu-P is the absolute worst Chitose butts in.
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horriblePencilist posted:How do you pronounce Gi(a)rlish Number? ガーリッシュナンバー
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Nov 21, 2016 01:30
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kuzu is the most destructive force in anime
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Nov 21, 2016 07:09
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Kuzu: a man with no self-preservation instincts.
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Nov 21, 2016 08:36
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at this point ive basically given up on chitose ever becoming a better human being or making a career for herself, i want shibasaki to land a role she can throw herself wholeheartedly into, and momoka to move out of the shadow of her overly facilitative family, and koto to be a cool person
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Phobophilia posted:i want [...] koto to be a cool person done.
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