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mysterious frankie posted:Do you have some kind of article to back this up? I’ve only heard them rhyme when someone is trying to be funny by saying “hawt”. Does this work? https://imgur.com/9YwW3u5
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:It's always exciting when goons insist that because they haven't experienced something, it therefore doesn't happen. Mainly the “most American accents” part of the claim cot my attention.
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https://youtu.be/tgwYsqT6kk4mysterious frankie posted:Mainly the “most American accents” part of the claim cot my attention. What American accents don't they rhyme in?
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Aug 7, 2020 04:29
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Hot and caught totally rhyme. Also caught and cot are pronounced the same. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to pick up some pop at the store after I put on my tenni-shoes.
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Ask me about talking like a character from Fargo . Spoiler, it's not sexy.
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did someone prank you guys as kids and tell you that you pronounce the "a" in caught? you guys have seriously been walking around pronouncing it "cow-t" all your lives? that's amazing lmao
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Aug 7, 2020 04:37
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It's more like cawt instead of cot. There's a subtle diphthong in there. I think of 'caught=cot' as being more of a New England or at least Northeast thing instead of my own Mid-Atlantic thing.
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Aug 7, 2020 04:39
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In California Cot and Caught rhyme, I can not think of a single accent where caught and cot don't rhyme, someone plz vocaroo themselves saying these two words if they don't rhyme in your accent.
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Skwirl posted:https://youtu.be/tgwYsqT6kk4 Caught sounds like caw-tuh. The o in cot and hot is more like ah than aw. Even in that video it’s distinct enough that you’d need to use slant rhyme to make hot and caught work. In summation, go live in a dungeon.
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Aug 7, 2020 04:46
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PYF Pronunciation: Language is making America great in heaven now
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In Philadelphia English caught sounds like a combination of "cawt" "coyt" and "calt". Imagine those three words smashed together at the same time. With context being a very big thing. The more emphasis you put on the word, the more accented it is. A Philadelphian might say "Yeah so 30 people in California cot the virus" but if they're speaking to a family member on the phone about personal exposure they're gonna say "So you might have CAWOYTL the virus??"
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Philadelphia English is all about adding syllables to monosyllabic words and swallowing syllables from polysyllabic words based on context and what you're trying to put across which makes it the closest English has to a tonal language and also the best for actually conveying meaning.
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World Famous W posted:Yeah, it rhymes to my southern accent It rhymes to my Glaswegian accent, too.
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mysterious frankie posted:Caught sounds like caw-tuh. The o in cot and hot is more like ah than aw. Even in that video it’s distinct enough that you’d need to use slant rhyme to make hot and caught work. In summation, go live in a dungeon. You pronounce caught with two syllables? And you were calling me insane?
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Aug 7, 2020 05:52
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It's pronounced caw-ooft. The chud cawooft the roni.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:It's pronounced caw-ooft. ok chaucer
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You yanks talk all weird.
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Cot is almost universally pronounced /kɑt/ in the US. Caught is sometimes pronounced /kɔ(ː)t/, and sometimes /kɑt/. I do not know their respective frequency. Lot/thought can have the same issue. If you do not pronounce caught and thought so that they rhyme, it's pretty easy to change one to match the other to understand how it sounds for people who do. Edit: as a non-native English speaker who was taught some attempt at British English in school but learned most of it from video games and TV, cot/lot rhyme for me, as do caught/thought, but not both. My experience from watching American shows is that cot/caught mostly do not rhyme, but that could also be both pronunciations being similar enough to eachother that I hear my way of saying it even if the people speaking say it slightly differently. Phosphine has a new favorite as of 07:14 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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Having grown up with my accent, I can't even hear the difference between "caught" and "cot" spoken by someone with an accent in which they are pronounced differently.
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Phosphine posted:Lot/thought can have the same issue. If you do not pronounce caught and thought so that they rhyme, it's pretty easy to change one to match the other to understand how it sounds for people who do. and "thot experiment" would be a good username
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Phosphine posted:Cot is almost universally pronounced /kɑt/ in the US. Thought, lot, caught, and cot do all rhyme.
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Aug 7, 2020 13:42
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It's pronounced soda and if you disagree I will slaughter you and your entire extended family
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Cot-caught merger:quote:The cot–caught merger is a sound change present in some dialects of English where speakers do not distinguish the vowels in "cot" and "caught". Names like "cot–caught merger" and lot–thought merger come from the minimal pairs that are lost as a result of this sound change. The phonemes involved in the cot-caught merger are represented in the International Phonetic Alphabet as /ɒ/ and /ɔ/, respectively. These vowels are both low and back—as can be seen in the IPA chart—and is sometimes referred to as the low back merger. The father-bother merger that spread through North America in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries has resulted in many dialects having no vowel difference in words like "father", "lot", and "thought".
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Phlegmish posted:It's pronounced soda and if you disagree I will slaughter you and your entire extended family In civilized society we call it pop.
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pentyne posted:In civilized society we call it pop. [narrows eyes] I know where your village lives, militias incoming
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Also, words that start with "th" are pronounced closer to a "d" sound. For example: "Ooh, hei, are you gonna cook up dat dere walleye you caught?"
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pentyne posted:In civilized society we call it pop.  One more: there's no such thing as a "casserole," call it a hot dish or GTFO, riffraff.
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Aug 7, 2020 13:51
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Some people say the US is bland and generic, the result of the entirety of Western culture (already boringly dominant) being thrown into a homogenizer machine and then spread out over an entire continent. Those people are obviously ignorant and don't know about America's incredible cultural diversity - get a load of this: people in state X say 'soda' to refer to carbonated drinks...but people in this area [points to region 3,000 km away] say 'pop' sometimes. Amazing that Americans have managed to overcome these deep cultural divisions to remain united as a nation somehow.
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Phlegmish posted:Some people say the US is bland and generic, the result of the entirety of Western culture (already boringly dominant) being thrown into a homogenizer machine and then spread out over an entire continent. Yawn, the people saying 'soda' are descendants of Dutch settlers and the people saying 'pop' have... *spins wheel*... Welsh roots.
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Caught, taught, bought rhyme. They're the same sound, 'aw'. Same as maw or craw. They're not supposed to perfectly rhyme with cot, tater-tot and bot, which is the short 'o' sound. They are intended to have different vowel sounds. Some regional accents will make the 'aw' sound like a short o instead though. Sincerely, a dude that taught English in Asia for most of a decade and had to learn how I was speaking English.
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I'm from Canada and I say vyelkin has a new favorite as of 14:43 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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Ok, but how do you guys pronounce sword?
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mysterious frankie posted:Ok, but how do you guys pronounce sword? Sword
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vyelkin posted:Sword Oh. Well I feel foolish.
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mysterious frankie posted:Ok, but how do you guys pronounce sword? If I'm singing along with Wutang, it's "sWoard." At other times, it's "sord"
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