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Actors who do voices or mocap for major videogames are going on strike to protest their low compensation and lack of royalties. Mocap people want stunt coordinators so they don't hurt themselves doing stunts for call of duty or whatever, and voice actors want to know what they're working on and to not have to scream for hours on end until they go permanently hoarse forever and have to retire, which they can't, because they have no royalties. This will delay Kingdom Hearts 3, the COD 4 remaster, and a bunch of other games made by other dogshit companies who are awful, like EA. loving corporations should all burn to the ground imho list of companies being targeted: Activision Publishing, Inc. Blindlight, LLC Corps of Discovery Films Disney Character Voices, Inc. Electronic Arts Productions, Inc. Formosa Interactive, LLC Insomniac Games, Inc. Interactive Associates, Inc. Take 2 Interactive Software VoiceWorks Productions, Inc. WB Games, Inc. you can see if a game is being delayed for the strike here: https://www.sagaftra.org/files/struck_video_game_productions_list.pdf here's a news story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37721223/video-game-voice-stunt-and-motion-actors-go-on-strike-in-us-over-pay corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Oct 22, 2016 |
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Oct 22, 2016 03:45
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All those people are going to be homeless in three months when scabs take all their work.
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Oct 22, 2016 03:47
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Ride The Gravitron posted:All those people are going to be homeless in three months when scabs take all their work. it would probably be hard for ea to just fire all their sag workers considering that'd result in mass effect 4 starring bob from accounting
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Oct 22, 2016 03:50
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I wish the strikers the best of luck.
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Oct 22, 2016 03:50
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they will probably be replaced i hear Randy Quaid is lookin for work these days. He's gonna be the new Shep in Mass Affect.
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Oct 22, 2016 03:50
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actra which is the canadian actor's guild is also supporting the strike https://twitter.com/ACTRAnat/status/789507562945339392
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Oct 22, 2016 03:51
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Is Charles Martinet going to join the Super Mario Strikers?
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Oct 22, 2016 04:00
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ty for making a checkbox poll op i support more money for people who work on video games i just hope this doesnt delay persona 5
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Oct 22, 2016 04:07
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kingdom hearts 2.8 is specifically delayed, as is mass effect 4. any game started after february 2015 is subject to the strike, as long as it is also a SAG project -- which basically means anything that's got at least one actual actor in it.
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Oct 22, 2016 04:08
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CharlestonJew posted:ty for making a checkbox poll op i support more money for people who work on video games i just hope this doesnt delay persona 5 atlus is not one of the companies being targeted for action.
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Oct 22, 2016 04:11
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I wish them the best, but it honestly doesn't look too good considering how easily replaceable I find many voice actors to be. I mean, yeah we may miss a few iconic voices, but there are quite a few roles where characters have been replaced by other voice actors.
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Oct 22, 2016 04:14
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I'd be ok with every game just going back to dialog boxes.
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Oct 22, 2016 04:15
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however, team fortress 2 is on the list, so there's that
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Oct 22, 2016 04:16
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Yeah, best of luck to 'em, but the tech industry is such a libertarian nightmare of anti-worker practices that they're probably just going to get dumped and we'll have stuff like Chaos Wars again where they just pulled randos from off the street.
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Oct 22, 2016 04:26
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Ride The Gravitron posted:All those people are going to be homeless in three months when scabs take all their work. More that they're going to stick to film and television because the working conditions there aren't (as) lovely. The strike order also doesn't preclude them from all video game voice acting, just those specific companies. It's not just VAs, either: stunt performers doing mocap and poo poo are also part of the action, so character animations will also get shittier. I'm also not sure if the strike means that big-name Hollywood actors also can't do game jobs; guess it'd depend on which actors are also SAG-AFTRA members. I imagine studio execs would be concerned if they can't bring in dudes like Patrick Stewart or Kevin Spacey anymore to help sell their games because of their refusal to re-negotiate a 22-year-old contract.
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Oct 22, 2016 05:02
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blackguy32 posted:I wish them the best, but it honestly doesn't look too good considering how easily replaceable I find many voice actors to be. I mean, yeah we may miss a few iconic voices, but there are quite a few roles where characters have been replaced by other voice actors.
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Oct 22, 2016 05:32
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There's a game on that list called Mimosa Friday, I want to play that.
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Oct 22, 2016 06:00
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corn in the bible posted:
TF2 is doing updates that require voice actors? Huh.
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Oct 22, 2016 06:11
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Quest For Glory II posted:as proven by Arkham Origins??? and Metal Gear Solid V and Dead Rising 4 and every Resident Evil game ever.
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Oct 22, 2016 07:11
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QuantaStarFire posted:More that they're going to stick to film and television because the working conditions there aren't (as) lovely. The strike order also doesn't preclude them from all video game voice acting, just those specific companies. It's not just VAs, either: stunt performers doing mocap and poo poo are also part of the action, so character animations will also get shittier. I'm pretty sure any actor that isn't some weird super indie guy or reality star is SAG-AFTRA Deki posted:TF2 is doing updates that require voice actors? Huh. Are they still doing voiced trailers for updates? Could be something like that. Does TF2 even still get updates?
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Oct 22, 2016 07:17
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I've never bought a game because of a voice actor and I can only actually name less than 10 who weren't stunt castings of actual celebrities. Go back to dialogue boxes.
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Oct 22, 2016 07:18
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voice acting is cool, actually
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Oct 22, 2016 07:23
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Never again hearing the voices of the same people doing the same voices over and over sounds pretty good to me.
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Oct 22, 2016 07:42
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bloodysabbath posted:I've never bought a game because of a voice actor and I can only actually name less than 10 who weren't stunt castings of actual celebrities. The cats out of the bag for that one now, voice actors should be treated with more respect and not just disposable scream drones, sure everyone has a voice but unless you want to revisit the 90's era of bad voicework then I hope the strike goes well for them.
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Oct 22, 2016 07:54
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You don't think much about voice actor strain when you're playing a game, but then you realize Jim Cummings voices about a third of the characters in Skyrim.
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Oct 22, 2016 08:15
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What is a realistic demand for these folks? Mocap types wanting stunt doubles makes sense from a safety perspective, but does anyone really think 99.9999999 percent of voice actors in shooter games are going to have the leverage to negotiate for gross points or whatever?
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Oct 22, 2016 08:18
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bloodysabbath posted:What is a realistic demand for these folks? Mocap types wanting stunt doubles makes sense from a safety perspective, but does anyone really think 99.9999999 percent of voice actors in shooter games are going to have the leverage to negotiate for gross points or whatever? 'Course not, but Patrick Stewart can, and that's why entertainment unions exist. You wanna get the big names, you gotta treat all your talent right.
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Oct 22, 2016 08:19
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pft who needs selfish entitled voice actors when you can do the work yourself with your family https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAtC1SzWSXg
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Oct 22, 2016 08:46
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bloodysabbath posted:What is a realistic demand for these folks? Mocap types wanting stunt doubles makes sense from a safety perspective, but does anyone really think 99.9999999 percent of voice actors in shooter games are going to have the leverage to negotiate for gross points or whatever? Limiting recording sessions to 2 hours at a time for the same pay seems pretty reasonable given the additional vocal strain that video game VO work entails (screams, death sounds, etc.), not to mention that they might have other jobs to go to that day and don't want to cancel because they destroyed their voice or started coughing up blood during recording for the latest shootmans. The stunt guys want a stunt coordinator on the mocap set to minimize the risk of injury. And knowing what the part involves before accepting the work like every other entertainment industry seems pretty reasonable as well.
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Oct 22, 2016 08:58
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bloodysabbath posted:What is a realistic demand for these folks? Mocap types wanting stunt doubles makes sense from a safety perspective, but does anyone really think 99.9999999 percent of voice actors in shooter games are going to have the leverage to negotiate for gross points or whatever? they have leverage because they are in a union and that is what a union is for. this is not a complex issue surely? this doesnt cover non-union game dev projects, btw, so if you wanna do a shitheap project for five bucks and hire your mom then yeah she aint got no leverage. but if they want kiefer sutherland then they have to follow the rules for everyone else too corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Oct 22, 2016 |
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Oct 22, 2016 09:25
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Don't get me wrong. I'm on their side and think they should get what they're asking for. I just think the video babe companies are thing to ignore them and hire scabs because they know gamers will buy anything they poo poo out. Capitalism is going to win this one.
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Oct 22, 2016 09:36
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The videogame industry is seriously hosed up labor wise. I hope the VAs succeed, and the other people in the industry use that success to pressure for more reforms.
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Oct 22, 2016 09:37
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good
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Oct 22, 2016 09:44
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Ride The Gravitron posted:Don't get me wrong. I'm on their side and think they should get what they're asking for. Eh. If this were hard and fast, they'd never hire celebrity voices at all. Outdated minimums or no, it's not like Kevin Spacey ever comes cheap.
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Oct 22, 2016 09:45
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How can this affect things like MW Remastered that are out in 2 weeks? Surely they've went gold?
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Oct 22, 2016 09:46
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I'm going to guess that Alligator is Red Dead Redemption 2's codename. Just a guess.
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Oct 22, 2016 09:48
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Seedge posted:How can this affect things like MW Remastered that are out in 2 weeks? Surely they've went gold? i have no idea, but it's on the list
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Oct 22, 2016 09:50
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Seedge posted:How can this affect things like MW Remastered that are out in 2 weeks? Surely they've went gold? Any DLC they have planned that's still in production is going to get shelved until the matter is either resolved or they decide to hire scabs just to get poo poo out the door. They also can't use sound-alikes for major characters lest they invite lawsuits.
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Oct 22, 2016 10:39
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Good on them. They deserve a better set of payments, and the industry needs a bit of a shakeup.
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Oct 22, 2016 11:28
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I'm torn. On the one hand voice acting is close to my heart and these are good people who deserve better. On the other hand I would welcome a return to games that sound like this with open arms.
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Oct 22, 2016 11:55
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