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sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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unusual games are good and I wish that I played cloaks

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sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:

I don't see myself in the list. A travesty of the highest order.

you're a cat ghost, hence the blank spot

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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hello good morning cat friends

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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another game day ended before I even woke up

you're all trying to turbo asap. kind of rude honestly. ##treat fl for being the meow of reason

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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then again it's jhats so I kind of want to jump on board

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Jimmy is pretty much right about day one though, so why not choose jimmy in that case?

Also wasn't the cat in the hat a trouble maker?

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Flying Leatherman posted:

Either I'm still trying to blink the sleep out of my eyes or there's some fundamental inconsistency here. It is strange to hear, in one post, stickup agree with me when I'm advocating more D1 content because we can get stuff out of D1, and in another say that Jimmy's right about not getting anything out of D1. It's sufficiently ambiguous that, really, he's ended up on both sides of the argument, and it feels like he's just trying to be inoffensive over providing honest opinions.

Looking back over it, honestly I can't refute this. I can expand:

I don't want to go into the details of an ongoing game, but the two lynches that occurred during the recently ended day of shine 3 both happened in the early AM for me. One was before I even woke up, and one was while I was catching up before work, respectively. This annoys me to some extent. Time zones can't really be overcome in a game like mafia, and I appreciate it when people don't try to lynch as FAST as possible.

However I very much agree with jimmy hats that day 1 is usually nonsense, and despite how much people might debate the validity of a jokephase (unless there is an n0), I think it's necessity because there is no way (without n0) to make any real cases or arguments unless someone slips really bad.

Jimmy Hats posted:

Also you were doing the same thing you're voting stickup for doing: admonishing me for not wanting to do day1 poo poo and then voting me, the guy with the most votes

This is also true, but tbh I think leather's posts feel pretty genuine.

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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I guess my point is a very fast D1 turbo is not a good for the town because D1 can provide useful info, and because some people (me) may not be able to post/read actively when it's happening

even if I agree with jimmy and think D1 is often a crap shoot, not giving everyone a chance to chime in will result in LESS info, not more

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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also note that I have not voted because I'm not trying to rush D1

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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I like to throw joke votes around but jimmy was at -3 before I even said hello

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Jimmy Hats posted:

admonishing me for not wanting to do day1 poo poo and then voting me, the guy with the most votes

I'm pretty sure this is an honest fuckup on jimmy's part. leather hasn't done anything that earns a vote from me, and I think it's pretty clear that leather is referencing the part of this post I quoted.

Did you not read the second half of jimmy's post?
##vote tired moritz

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Infinitum posted:

Sorry for taking Asiina's Super Serious Game No Laughing Mafia super seriously and actually having an opinion :colbert:

##treat infinitum

And how does this make you feel?

I think it's unlikely we'll see serious treat votes until days start moving towards a lynch or deadline

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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good morning, feline friends. reading the thread now

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Little concerned about cpig, less for the stuff about treats and more for the meta defense.

I'm curious about what jimson will post about derp. Frankly I don't see it, maybe leaning a little town. leather feels pretty drat towny to me though, and has derp as town.

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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This hellweek of work has finally almost ended, I'm going to reread right now and try to post a thing before passing out. I should be able to phonepost around the deadline.

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Jimmy Hats posted:

We don't even know what treats do. However i will say that i am 99.99 percent sure that if you treat me i'll be able to use more than one of my powers tonight cuz uh that seems like a thing a cool game host would do.

Anyways i will follow up and say that my joats are watcher, follower, tracker, voyeur.

Jimmy doesn't feel super towny to me, but I don't really want to vote jimmy just in case this is true. def not giving you a treat without proof though cause you're a pretty shifty cat!!

Jimmy Hats posted:

Oh also everyone post your character's name i have a theory

im jimmy :haw:

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Somberbrero posted:

seems a little too self-conscious imo

I missed this skimming before, but this was also a response to leather saying I was playing both sides of the D1 argument. What I was trying to express was: though I agree that D1 content can be hit or VERY miss in my experience, I didn't vote because I didn't agree with turboing anyone D1 (jimmy was at -3).

looking back it reads real dumb as an individual post but I was trying to be active as best I could while rushing through an unusually busy week vOv failed pretty hard though

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Why game the mod about treats. I think using it as a utility to scum hunt is kind of bunk, or rather will prove to be bunk.

Can you expand on why treats wouldn't work well hunting scum? Looking back over inf's posts, what he's saying makes a lot of sense, I just don't think the previous treat votes are/will be an issue. or I, at least, was mostly just loving around anyway.

King Burgundy posted:

Uh, there is no way that Asiina didn't already intend for us to do that.

If we don't treat(hehe) them seriously, then that gives scum free reign to get extra powers.

I agree with this. Adding in a separate vote-like mechanic is way too game changing for this not to be a factor in Asiina's mind. I guess I can see why you'd say it would be a bunk method of actually finding scum, but it almost certainly will be a factor. I kind of like the idea inf presented about trying to give everyone one treat. We'd have to all be in agreement(we wouldn't be) and it still may not be a good idea(it isn't), but I could see there being a neat mechanic for a situation like that.

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:

When J get on my computer ill do quotes. Phone posting now. Just go back and look their artificial content posts goofy attention drawing "fun" posts and need to bring up scum lurkers before game even started. Derp js old school mafia and it shows. Cuz he's acting like old school scum.

looked at derp specifically again, but right now I'm still not leaning strongly either way. Until recently the last time I played mafia was 4-5 years ago but nothing really is giving me overtly bad vibes yet.

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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CapitalistPig posted:

The vote that is terrible on me though is this crap.

##vote inf

every other vote on me at least tried to have a reason.

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Inf used mechanic discussion to appear active then made a noncommittal me too vote.

That's the scummiest behavior ITT so far.

##vote infinitum

Agreed, as inf doesn't seem to normally make votes like this. Inf's only real contribution to the game other than joke posts was the treat discussion. He makes interesting points but I'm not sure that any of what inf is thinking will happen the way he's thinking it. It feels a little OMGUSy on cpig's part but you're right, this is probably the scummiest thing in the thread ##vote infinitum

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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time to for me to sleep, ##treat stickup because im the BEST



Retro Futurist posted:

Not really feeling Inf. Pig is acting vote worthy.

My gut's telling me it's Jimmy though and I trust my gut above all else

I would vote for jimmy to avoid a nolynch but that role is super important for us to keep alive if it's real

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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King Burgundy posted:

What do you think about Jimson?

I absolutely would vote jimson, inf posting infposts makes me a lean a bit in the other direction

Looking back AA unvoted Cpig after almost no prodding at all, that feels worse than cpig to me right now

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Jimmy Hats posted:

Should get treats lined up before we slammer dat hammer. Should ?maybe? treat me since i have a good claimed power IMO.

I'll hammer if no one wants to move treats

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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I mean inf clearly knows something but you don't think that's OMGUS from jimson? Seriously?

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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oh holy poo poo lmao ##vote AA

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Also how could I kill kb if I visited inf. Self watching bodyguard. Don't be dumb.

Am I reading this wrong? your argument is that you didn't visit inf and both kill kb at the same time, on the same night, by yourself? Inf didn't suggest that in any way, what point are you even trying to make there? that you are the only scum that can kill?

I thought you were scummy during the last day and inf is right, his calls (in games I was in) have been outstandingly accurate.

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Nov 22, 2007

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Tired Moritz posted:

I don't think there would be any reason for Jimson to do that.

You're right, I went back and looked. I assumed AA had been pushing jimson but he really wasn't

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

How does my action make me scum then? :allears:

Use the bits of meat between your ears

It doesn't necessitate you being scum, but I believe Jimmy's joat and jimson is confirmed as a tracker. Are you also claiming straight tracker or is ot different?

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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If inf is lying about you, this is suicide because it means his role is bullshit. Why claim in that case?

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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I assume that was bullshit from jimson, I've already said as much

pretty weird to smear you like that for no reason though, which means at the very least jimson also probably believed you are scum

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Nov 22, 2007

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Jimmy Hats posted:

Also wooden treat seems like it'd be a bad thing like a sort of negative dummy treat so ##treat cpig suck wood pig i hope u get splinters.

:lol:

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Inf might be full of poo poo, and in that case he's definitely the one that killed kb. but his claim would mean we find that out for sure. I can't think of a reason inf would do something so dumb.

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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we actually are close to a turbo so I'm going to ##unvote for now at least so someone doesn't hammer before everyone gets to discuss things

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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AA was there any particular reason you chose to track inf?

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Uh did you not read any of the arguments against him d1? Christ....

sorry for attempting to figure out what influenced your final decision and why I should believe you over inf I guess?

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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derp posted:

I knew infinus was town. #vote aa

this didn't count because the formatting is off

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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yeah I think you're reaching a little far with that one in a game about cat gifs

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Jimmy Hats posted:

Also FL gently caress u for attributing my amazing and smart deduction to stickup

rude! please don't attack cats that attribute things to me just because they know that I'm the better cat in this situation

got my eye on you jimmy, no funny stuff

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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Somberbrero posted:

suboptimal play is a tough case to make, but i have a lot of difficulty making sense of that from a town perspective.

##vote james hats

Good catch. Unless inf is just straight up lying, there is still a problem with the claimed actions though. His bodyguard action succeeded, with AA being the only visitor.

I'm so hesitant and asking loads of questions, AA, because I believe your argument over inf's. I think it's unlikely that there are 3 trackers due to exactly what somber says - the weird roles in this game make that unlikely. Your scenario is, however, much more likely than inf's, unless it was all just a giant coincidence (which is possible).

How are you feeling about inf's claim somber?

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sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

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this is a stickup posted:

Good catch. Unless inf is just straight up lying, there is still a problem with the claimed actions though. His bodyguard action succeeded, with AA being the only visitor.

I'm so hesitant and asking loads of questions, AA, because I believe your argument over inf's. I think it's unlikely that there are 3 trackers due to exactly what somber says - the weird roles in this game make that unlikely. Your scenario is, however, much more likely than inf's, unless it was all just a giant coincidence (which is possible).

How are you feeling about inf's claim somber?

I'm good at talking and complete all my thoughts the first time

the problem being that someone would have had to interfere with inf's action for a success w/ dead kb

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