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Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

i hope i die
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by the life that i tried
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i'm scared and very uncomfortable

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Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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i still can't believe you wrote a game in response to cloaks.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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*finishes a book* "eh could have been better." *opens up Word*

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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Asiina posted:

Your idea and what you were trying to do was good, I want to try my own take on it.

no it's really cool!

i am feeling inexplicable dread though.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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one time someone wrote a poem comparing me to a beautiful orange tabby and then we broke up.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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it's me i'm the op

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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derp posted:

has mafia changed since ive been gone or is it still like 3 people per game doing all the posting and getting eachother killed then the scum lurk to victory

it depends on the game. sometimes everyone tries!

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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Jimmy Hats posted:

Bottleknight at -3 let's make this happen for real guys it would be hilarious!

Don't fart up this game.

##vote jimhats

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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i'm well.

if you haven't treated already, please don't just yet. you'll make me blue.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:

I already got my treat getting to play another game with you :)

:3:

hi jim

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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yes show me

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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naw day one is essential to good play.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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Infinitum posted:

It's D1 so I can understand jokey votes and throwing votes around willy nilly, but what I can't understand is why would you throw treats around so casually.
I think they're going to be a big part of the game and to treat them frivolously would be a mistake, especially if it started momentum on it with "Eh gently caress it" style treating.

So a question to the people that have given FL a treat..
Why?

this is a good point but i think people are just being real casual with their treats.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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Jimmy Hats posted:

We don't even know what treats do. However i will say that i am 99.99 percent sure that if you treat me i'll be able to use more than one of my powers tonight cuz uh that seems like a thing a cool game host would do.

Anyways i will follow up and say that my joats are watcher, follower, tracker, voyeur.

if asiina is basing this game based on cloaks design then this is a town role. not gonna dip too far down the meta hole though.

this is a stickup posted:

also note that I have not voted because I'm not trying to rush D1

seems a little too self-conscious imo

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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CapitalistPig posted:

like, I don't know why you expected any more, I mean you HAVE played with me before you know how i roll.

Here is a better retort.

You are dumb, and also wrong about your idiot read.

Better?

in my experience when pig plays into his own meta like this he's scum. he's actually a really smart and intuitive player with a great sense of the social game.

##vote pig

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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King Burgundy posted:

I'm really not seeing Inf so far.

I still really like Jimmy for scum. I guess I'd consider Pig. And I sorta kinda could see AA.

who's this wishy-washy kb? i don't recognize him.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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derp posted:

i would like to kill the red king

##vote burgandy


this game is quiet enough without killing off a high volume poster, no thanks.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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I really don't care for the derp case. It seems like the buildup doesn't really match the conclusion.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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##treat flying leatherman

i reread him looking for a case to make and i came away with the xonclusion that he's town. good reads and scumhunting, especially for day 1.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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Infinitum's lack of concern does seem weird. I'd vote him but I'm feeling cpig more.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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oh, good catch.

##vote jimson

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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it's like two hours out james hats.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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jimson does an inexplicable 180 on derp is the case.

i like it.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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I ain't giving you poo poo James.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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sweet gambit.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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don't turbo you goons. let me think on this. i have work in less than ten hours.

i wish i had a masonry with someone cool like leather.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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Infinitum posted:

I'll be out from pretty much now. So I won't be able to respond to any scum accusations that I was the one that killed KB.

You either believe me or you don't.
If you're playing with me in other games atm, you know I'm a straight shooter and I've been on absolute fire with my callouts lately.

I swear on me sexy sexy beard that AA+Cpig are scum.

If you want to lynch scum, lynch AA.
If you want to lynch me, a sexy as hell town bodyguard, that's your choice. I just won't be about to argue against it cause I'm getting drunk as a skunk this arvo

Enjoy your day lads :toot:

it's like my eyes are tasting bile.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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anonamal's argument makes sense to me at this point in time, but then it's nearly two in the morning.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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This is cloaks d2 all over again except far rudee.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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while infi is certainly unpleasant, i don't know if that means he is scum. from what i understand it's possible for both actors to be town here. we need to stop and talk this out, not rush to a vote.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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we absolutely cannot make assumptions about the setup here. there are a mess of roles that have not and should not claim. there are many possibilities outside the standard, that's the point of this game. if you haven't read the cloaks post asiina linked in the op, it might be helpful.

i need to look back at jim hats. do i recall correctly that he had a watch and a track available and chose to track kb?

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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Jimmy Hats posted:

Ugggggh i followed KB last night he copped someone but i don't know who.

##vote cpig

so

your name is james hats

you have a watch and track available

you choose to target the player who got a treat, great!

imagine that you, james hats, are town. do you choose the ability that could observe a kill on a high priority target? or, do you choose to see who they visit? the best case scenario there is a verified target.

suboptimal play is a tough case to make, but i have a lot of difficulty making sense of that from a town perspective.

##vote james hats

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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or the scum have a strongman kill and inf got docced. or there's something else at play we're not aware of.

based on a purely mechanical pov i'm nervous about making assumptions with partial information. again, gonna reference cloaks and the design intent of this game.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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derp posted:

Aa moritz cpig most obvious scumteam in the history of mafia

I do think moritz is likely scum, yeah. Kind of a rough scum draft, isn't it? No offense meant, they're just all newer players.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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Tired Moritz posted:

##vote AA


Does the fact that I said that we should be careful with our treats really make you think I'm scum?

Tired Moritz posted:

##unvote

I want to see what Sombre and Retro got to say.


these posts are like an hour apart and then you back up aa again. can you expand on your thought process a bit more, moritz?

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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how does their arguing change how you viewed jimson's parting breath?

it seems kind of binary, right? like either you believe it or you don't.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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ah i missed that you said you were just avoiding a turbo.

hm.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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pig, do you think it's weird james hats chose to track kb rather than watch him?

Somberbrero
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CapitalistPig posted:

yes it is weird, but Jhats is a lot like me as in he seems to just do whatever without thinking much about it.

I don't really buy that explanation. A watch is way more exciting than a track as town. KB was obviously a high priority target and tracking him would give jim marginal information at best.

or wait, maybe i'm misremembering. James, you said you saw him Cop, right? so you saw the action but not the target.

man that makes even less sense.

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Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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CapitalistPig posted:

here is you assuming the way you feel about something is the same way another person would.

it's not the simple though. there's not an easy way for me to rationalize a bad play like that. maybe assuming any kind of rationale is a mistake on my part, but i have to work from the perspective that each player is trying to advance their win condition.

let's look at it another way.

you're scum. james hats isn't on your scum team.you know that james hats can watch at night. would you try to kill kb with a claimed watcher on the board?

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