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Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

I am a Cat Person irl, I am very in

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Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

We're playing games? I like to play games!



Jimmy Hats posted:

Bottleknight at -3 let's make this happen for real guys it would be hilarious!

I don't like this plan at all.

Tired Moritz posted:

Let's treat the person with the cutest avatar.

##treat Flying Leatherman, catte.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Infinitum posted:

Every post must now be accompanied by a cat gif or you will be voted off the island.

http://i.imgur.com/oxiTi01.mp4

Infinitum posted:

Lot of people not posting cat gifs alongside their posts.

suspicious



I know that this is day 1 but this is a great way to encourage the propagation of fluff in the thread. Adorable cat fluff, yes, but still fluff.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Jimmy Hats posted:

Day1 is a circle jerk anyways might as well get it over with ASAP. Also i have claimed a very good and strong town role so anyone voting for me is clearly going against the town wincon and should :smug: learn how to play :smug:

:smugdon:

Lol, last game I played in d1 gave a lot of information. Not that town acted on it particularly well, but there was certainly information there.

This is bad play.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

derp posted:

wrong votes.

read leatherman's history of posts. it's classic 'hmmm i sure don't like this' with no action scum posting

This is not a mischaracterization of my posting this game, except for the word "scum".

On the other hand, as noted, it's not exactly conducive to D2 analysis if we just turbo a dude, and while I certainly agree that JHats is playing scummy, I made the idiot mistake last game I played of hammering a town PR because I thought they were acting scummy, and I'd rather not make the same mistake.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

That said, just from what little we have so far, I want to ##vote Inf for the fluff, out of anyone. I understand throwing your vote around in jokephase but the "post cat .gifs" posts just feels like it's an excuse to clutter the thread.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Infinitum posted:

Says the man with cat in everyone of his posts :colbert:

Hey, I can't help the way I'm made.

Well, I could for five bucks, but I'm cheap.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe


What a nice nap, time to get up!

this is a stickup posted:

you're all trying to turbo asap. kind of rude honestly. ##treat fl for being the meow of reason

this is a stickup posted:

Jimmy is pretty much right about day one though, so why not choose jimmy in that case?
Either I'm still trying to blink the sleep out of my eyes or there's some fundamental inconsistency here. It is strange to hear, in one post, stickup agree with me when I'm advocating more D1 content because we can get stuff out of D1, and in another say that Jimmy's right about not getting anything out of D1. It's sufficiently ambiguous that, really, he's ended up on both sides of the argument, and it feels like he's just trying to be inoffensive over providing honest opinions.

##unvote
##vote stickup

Tired Moritz posted:

From my past experience, Jimmy Hats always kinda rush for a kill in D1 so I'm not suspicious of him at all.
I don't think I've played with him before, is this true?

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Jimmy Hats posted:

Also you were doing the same thing you're voting stickup for doing: admonishing me for not wanting to do day1 poo poo and then voting me, the guy with the most votes

This is objectively false, I have not voted you this game.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Tired Moritz posted:

good day, meow

he said you're voting stick up!!
Really? I read that as Jimmy saying I admonished him and then voted him. Maybe I misunderstood.

Yes, I'm voting stickup, but the argument doesn't follow in that case - I'm not voting stickup because he doesn't want to do day 1, I'm voting him because his posts indicated that he was trying to get on both sides of the discussion.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

My reasoning for giving FL my treat is simple. There's a cat in their avatar.
After a year, this has finally paid off.

Jimmy Hats posted:

Also if we assume there are 3 mafia men which i don't think is unreasonable in a game this size then one of them must be voting for me right now!! Otherwise they would lynch me and end the Hyper Important Day 1 Discussion, thus sealing town's fate (which would be doom!!)
This seems awfully overblown.

Preview edit: KB beat me to it.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Infinitum posted:

Most players may see a vote leader for the treats and just toss them that way out of apathy.

Do you expect the same thing to happen with lynches this game or are you specifically concerned with treats?

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Infinitum posted:

Just treats.

Don't know how powerful they are, but Asiina says we want our teams to have them. So I'd much rather we reach a consensus on treats at the end of the day, rather than just tossing them out there.
I think it will add an extra layer of scum hunting to the game to see who favours who with their treats.

I guess I'm just not understanding how throwing around treats early is different than throwing around votes early. Positive effect, negative effect, whatever, but it's still a vote at the end of the day. I'm not advocating not discussing treat picks, but this level of concern two days before deadline seems forced.

##untreat
##treat derp

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

BottleKnight posted:

The treat economy is rigged to favor the top 1%. We need to throw off our shackles and make the millionaires and billionaires pay their fair share of treats!



...Of course that exists.

On the subject of taking treats seriously, my last treat vote was in fact serious.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

King Burgundy posted:

Derp is your read for towniest currently?
Yep

It felt like his vote on me and reasoning for it came from a town perspective.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

For whatever reason I know a ton of people that are writing in Bernie, it is a little bit disturbing.

derp posted:

anyway mr leather man didnt get mad at my case or try to throw shade at me at all which is.... ?

im not sure what i think about it yet, but it is unusual imo. is he a super thoughtful guy who is pro at seeing others' perspectives or he is scum trying way to hard to keep it cool and towny

have you all played with him before and is he like that?

If it helps, we both played in Cpig's Drugs Mafia a few months back.

King Burgundy posted:

I don't have a useful meta on FL. Not really sure.

At first I thought this was weird then I realized that I've only played in two games with you ever and they were both some time ago.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

King Burgundy posted:

Yeah, I don't even know if this is right, but I vaguely recall you as a lurker from what little I played with you. And that's all I got.

Accurate in Soldiers, not entirely inaccurate in Shine 2.

I've been trying to make more of an effort since I started playing games again.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Good morning, friends.

Hey, AA. Do you have any reads? Did you have time to catch up Monday night? I am asking because so far I have very little to go off of from your posting and I am getting quite curious. It's interesting to me that despite having little to say you stopped in to talk about your treat shortly after we started discussing the treat votes on me.



...See? Curious. Very curious.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

I think it's weird that AA was able to hop in and give answers whenever the conversation came around to them (why did people treat me, my prod post) but still claimed not to have caught up on the thread when I asked. Like, if you're following along enough to answer questions, you're probably reading the thread, at least in my experience. That doesn't pass my sniff test.

##unvote; ##vote AA

W/r/t Cpig, I still have a null read. His posts still just read like typical Cpig to me, but I don't have a strong meta read for scum Cpig versus town Cpig.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

I don't think we should vote JHats, after reflecting a bit - like a couple other people have said, if that's his role, and if he's town, he's well worth keeping around. There have been a couple more concrete cases as well. I figure we should at least save him for D2; confident the truth will come out by then with an action result.

On filtering, TM's posting in this game is way different than his posting in gotta go fast, in which he was town, and I could see myself voting him today. Other than that, I kinda like my vote where it is.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Tired Moritz posted:

Can you tell me exactly how my posting is different from that game? That game started with P Mushroom being obvious scum, and I spend most of the time trying to get people to lynch them before I died. Nothing much is happening right now.

yeah, while I disagreed with your reads in GGF you were actively making reads, theorizing, and scumhunting; this game, the post I'm quoting here is the first one that's sounded more like your posting from that game.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

I'll be on closer to deadline but right now it's time for a catnap

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

I don't know if I buy the whole case here, Inf, but I would say I find the AA part of it more compelling than the Cpig part of it.

Tired Moritz posted:

Phone posting, I dont understand why Jimson is being voted

He made an inexplicable 180 degree flip on derp with the explanation of, essentially, "whoops". If that's where votes are landing today, I don't think that's a bad call, but is there more to the case that I'm missing?

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

So if I'm reading right, the only way that AA isn't a redirector is if Inf A) is telling the truth about being self-watching and B) is not actually a bodyguard. The reason this doesn't hold water to me is that a self-watching scum in a role-heavy game doesn't make sense. It'd be a useless role. So to me, on balance, Inf's probably town - and then what reason would he have to lie about the rest of his role?

Finally, as stickup mentioned above, 3 trackers in a 13 person game seems nuts - I don't buy AA's roleclaim. Coupled with what I said yesterday, I'm inclined to believe Inf over him.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

You know what, actually, maybe this is off the wall but I'm going to make a flavor argument.

The picture of Jimson's cat, when he flipped, was a cat pawing at a mirror.

If Jimson was a town tracker, what's the mirror - reverse - of a town tracker? Something that screws with tracker results. Like a bus driver, or a redirector.

Also a scum.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

this is a stickup posted:

yeah I think you're reaching a little far with that one in a game about cat gifs

That's fair

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

On the other hand, I got an action result in keeping with my flavor, so I'm loath to completely discount it

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Jimmy Hats posted:

Anyways i will follow up and say that my joats are watcher, follower, tracker, voyeur.

Hey so jimmy claimed he could follow yesterday too.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Somberbrero posted:

okay sure, he can do that

but why would he?

Yeah, that part I don't get either. Just saw that this was getting missed, is all.

That said, AA's last post saying the claim was hosed up and Hats is caught scum because of it is ... less than accurate.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Well, my reasoning, anyway: I talked a little bit earlier in the day about why I believe Inf over AA. I thought about it some more, and besides what I mentioned earlier, I just don't see a reason for scum to trade one for one on day 2 - and if Inf's lying, that's basically what he's doing here. I don't see a lie like that not being exposed by tomorrow. Lastly, it took nine minutes from the start of day for Inf to come up with that fakeclaim, and nine minutes from results to elaborate fakeclaim...eh.

Also, AA keeps lying and misrepresenting stuff against him. It's been pointed out a couple of times. Here's another one.

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

[ ... ]Look back at the first claim... There's no reference to being redirected. He just claims I visit him and he body guarded KB, yet somehow my visiting him makes me scum. No reference to redirectors as of yet.
And here's the relevant part of Inf's initial claim today:

Infinitum posted:

I am a Self Watching Bodyguard.

I am informed when someone visits me.
Last night Anomalous Amalgam visited me.
He was the ONLY person to visit me.

:siren: I protected King Burgundy last night and got a success :siren:
If my bodyguard target is killed, I die instead of them.

Ergo

:siren: Anomalous Amalgam is a scum redirector :siren:
Otherwise I would have died last night instead of KB.

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

TM is bugging me with this hard defense. It's a little bizarre.

anyway I guess I'll do a thing.

##vote AA
:redhammer:

Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

Ahhhhh

Good game. Thanks for running it Asiina. Congrats to scum on a well deserved win.

Jimmy was correct in that I lie detected his role claim night 1; I did try to breadcrumb my night actions/results a little bit but really didn't want to claim early in hopes of being able to survive long enough to clear more people. Oh well!

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Soaring Kestrel
Nov 7, 2009

For Whiterock.


Fun Shoe

As a side note, all of the cat pictures I posted were, in fact, of my cats.

I am the true Cat Lady.

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