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Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Meow~!

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Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Meooowww~! Busy today. I'll catch up tonight after homework. ##treat FL

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

My reasoning for giving FL my treat is simple. There's a cat in their avatar.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Why game the mod about treats. I think using it as a utility to scum hunt is kind of bunk, or rather will prove to be bunk.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Flying Leatherman posted:

Good morning, friends.

Hey, AA. Do you have any reads? Did you have time to catch up Monday night? I am asking because so far I have very little to go off of from your posting and I am getting quite curious. It's interesting to me that despite having little to say you stopped in to talk about your treat shortly after we started discussing the treat votes on me.



...See? Curious. Very curious.

Sorry I haven't, in all honesty I shouldn't have signed up for all these games but I am going to stick it out and try not to lurk as much. Yesterday was my bday so I didn't do anything maf related after work.

I can see why it is curious though. I'm intrigued about the treat mechanic, but I do think it's a bad idea to try and case from treat allotments, I mean yes we should try to get treats for ourselves, but there also has to be a majority and I picked you for the simplest of all reasons as explained.

Play wise give me a few hours and I'll have some actual reads, things are slowing down at work and I'll have a chance to scrutinize.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Jimmy Hats posted:

I doxxed u your birthday was last week lynch all liars

Nah mang, my birthday was yesterday. November 1st. 28 years ago I was born unto this mortal plane of meat. The world has yet to slay me. Foolish mistake.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

OK, I am most suss of CPig. Tosses shade on players using their treats not for themselves then tries to get people to case for him.

CapitalistPig posted:

I ask you this then. Who is a better lynch?

I say that the better lynch is you pig, because that seems like scumplay.

##vote CapitalistPig , a swine in cat's fur.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope


Ace retort chieftain.

*licks nards unabashedly, eyes locked with CPig, one furry leg extended high overhead*

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

CapitalistPig posted:

like, I don't know why you expected any more, I mean you HAVE played with me before you know how i roll.

Here is a better retort.

You are dumb, and also wrong about your idiot read.

Better?

*circles around the pig in cat's fur, tail batting around wildly as it snorts and chortles. I purr but not a pleased purr, an irritated purr. My fur stand straight up and I look more like a large raccoon than a cat.*

I guess that's convincing.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Seriously though, using your own meta to defend yourself? And one vote by me ruffles your feathers? Hmmmm... Meoowww, how curious.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Some cats just want to watch the litterbox burn...

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

##untreat bad kitty

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

CapitalistPig posted:

and AA is pushing this very hard on some pretty flimsy reasoning.

Not pushing it hard at all. Show where in my post history that I push hard.

I got caught up and you were stood out amongst what was mostly d1 chaff.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

CapitalistPig posted:

comparatively speaking based on the activity level of this game.

I'd be willing to back off if something better presented itself. I too usually get labelled as behaving like scum so I understand that, but my gut feeling and judgment based upon your play this game is genuine.

I am not above admitting that I could be wrong, but the vote feels right to me and I hope you understand that.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

I will say that the swift wind of support behind the vote does make me second guess myself though.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

*bats at ball of yarn, then chews a length of the tangled thread before rubbing against the leg of the coffee table*

I'll weigh my options. ##unvote

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

this is a stickup posted:

Can you expand on why treats wouldn't work well hunting scum? Looking back over inf's posts, what he's saying makes a lot of sense, I just don't think the previous treat votes are/will be an issue. or I, at least, was mostly just loving around anyway.


I agree with this. Adding in a separate vote-like mechanic is way too game changing for this not to be a factor in Asiina's mind. I guess I can see why you'd say it would be a bunk method of actually finding scum, but it almost certainly will be a factor. I kind of like the idea inf presented about trying to give everyone one treat. We'd have to all be in agreement(we wouldn't be) and it still may not be a good idea(it isn't), but I could see there being a neat mechanic for a situation like that.

I think that operating as if we know how the treats work is a bad idea is all. I should specify that trying to infer motive from treats right now is probably a bad idea and that scum can use this added mechanic to look like they are contributing when they aren't and are instead mitigating heat that would build on them, in fact yeah... I think I see what pig is getting at with infinitum and your post reaffirms the notion I'm trying to express.

Inf used mechanic discussion to appear active then made a noncommittal me too vote.

That's the scummiest behavior ITT so far.

##vote infinitum

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

My name is bubbles

*pads at mirror repeatedly*

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Inf or Pig are my top picks. Jimson didn't lie about being in an unconfirmed masonry with me. He thinks I'm scum and I'm giving him the benefit of doubt because it seems WIFOMy

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Also I unvoted because pig's point against inf seemed more concrete then my case against him, and the rapid heat he built as I mentioned made me curious.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Infinitum posted:

I'm honestly fine with either CPig of Jimbo.
My preference is on CPig mainly due to the fact how easily he took the bait.

I've got some housework to do, but I'll be about to vote either of them.

Hell we could split the difference and vote AA. I'd be fine with that as well.

So anyone but you? I've nothing to hide. I'm the good kitty.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Feeling good about inf. Sticking to it.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

I bubbles am a tracker like bobbles, my mason copy and watched inf visit KB and no one else.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Inf you devious Bastard. When I die they would know the truth of your treachery. I am a humble cat whose reflection has died. Infinitum is a filthy liar, a wolf in cat's clothing. Hang him.

##vote inf.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Lynch me if you think I seriously outted myself as scum in an unconfirmed masonry. Also how could I kill kb if I visited inf. Self watching bodyguard. Don't be dumb.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Dudes a garbage lying cat impostor.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Seriously don't be dumb. Inf hosed up his fake claim. How could I kill KB if I visited inf, the self proclaimed selfwatching bodyguard. If I targeted inf and attacked inf he'd be dead. And if I targeted KB and attacked kB inf would still die by his own logic and role description. He hosed up his own lie.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

You almost got me fuccboi, but its your anus that's the cat's meow tonight.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

this is a stickup posted:

Am I reading this wrong? your argument is that you didn't visit inf and both kill kb at the same time, on the same night, by yourself? Inf didn't suggest that in any way, what point are you even trying to make there? that you are the only scum that can kill?

I thought you were scummy during the last day and inf is right, his calls (in games I was in) have been outstandingly accurate.

How does my action make me scum then? :allears:

Use the bits of meat between your ears

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

I am A, inf is B and KB is C

A visits B, C dies.

What's the correlation?

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

I'll help. Doesn't exist.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Infinitum posted:

Because you didn't do the kill.

You redirected me somewhere and someone else on the scum team (IE CPig or one of your other scumbros) did the kill.

So you have no proof of me being a redirector self watching body guard, and even if that was my role. How's it inherently scummy? Esp. If I thought you were scum. You're caught lying scum. Writhe more maggot.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

No, I bubbles to Jimson's Bobbles am a pure tracker unconfirmed mason.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

this is a stickup posted:

If inf is lying about you, this is suicide because it means his role is bullshit. Why claim in that case?

Why would I knowingly outmyself as scum in a masonry? I'm dumb, not idiotic.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

If you don't see how inf is full of poo poo, you deserve to be squirt with a water bottle. ##treat cpig, make good use pig.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Seriously, even if I wasn't a tracker, there's no way to prove I'm a redirector. I tracked inf, so yea he can see himself or another scum is also a tracker who watched me and told him. I mean think about it... Day just starts, inf claims I visit him and tries to tie it to KBs death... And contrives the argument that I'm a redirector and I some how inferred he was a body guard and I should redirect him, because he for sure was targeting KB to "protect" him?

I love coincidence but that's a big flaccid dicked lie.

What's more believable?

I tracked inf to KBs kill and someone informed him he was watched

OR...

Master tacticians CPig and AA used their superior reading and skill to identify the bodyguard and his intended target and redirect him to secure a kill.


gently caress that. Don't be dumb.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

Inf hosed up his claim and you are buying that hosed up atrocity hook, line and sinker.

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

How the gently caress do you all get scum on me from Inf claiming that I targeted him!?

AGAIN...

A = Anomalous Amalgam
B = Infinitum
C = King Burgundy

My Claim
A tracks B.
A sees B visit C.
C dies.

Inf's Claim
B watches B; Protects C.
A visits B.
B sees A visiting him.
C dies.


No where in either claim is there room for me to have killed C.
No where in either claim is there evidence to substantiate A as a redirector.
No where in either claim is there evidence to substantiate A as scum or SK as pig purports.

What it takes for my claim to work
A is really a tracker.
B really visited C. A really visited B.
C. Dies.

What it takes for Inf's claim and case to work
B protects C. B can see himself.
A visits B to redirect him. B sees A visit him.
D(???) kills C.

A & D knew to redirect B to kill C?
It is coincidence that A redirected B who protected C, and C was still targeted by D(???)?

Short of me and Inf being clairvoyant, because how else could he arrive at the conclusion that I must have redirected him, and me knowing to redirect him. This is all baseless conjecture on his part, when I have a real action that is not at all unbelievable or baseless.

The only thing that might, and only MIGHT, render my claim less believable is that Jimson flipped tracker and dicksleeves is claiming that he is a joat with a tracker.

Here is what is 100% corroborated by our claims.

A visits B.
A sees B visit C.
B sees A.
A confirms he visited B.
B has no idea what A's role is.
C dies.
A has no affiliation with C by his action.
B loving visited C.
C Died!

You all must be high on catnip, and if so, don't hold out on me.

*rolls around on carpet, looks at you upside down before leaping onto all fours and darting into a cabinet.*

Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

this is a stickup posted:

AA was there any particular reason you chose to track inf?

Uh did you not read any of the arguments against him d1? Christ....

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Anomalous Amalgam
Feb 13, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo


Doctor Rope

I am Bubbles, Jimson was Bobbles. He was my reflection. Why would bubbles be the reflection to bobbles if you want to make lovely flavor cases based off Gifs.

And I mean, I tracked Infinitum because he came across as scummy yesterday.

I feel like you aren't following some basic logic here.

Like one, it's a huge assertion to say I'm a redirector.

Like there isn't a shred of evidence to substantiate that. Nothing. Zilch.

Even if Infinitum is a self watcher he would learned who targeted that player the same Night, nothing indicative of action.

quote:

The Watcher is an informative role that can target a player at Night and learn who, if anybody, targeted that player the same Night (but not what actions were performed on that player).

Also why would I redirect infinitum. THink about it hard for a minute, use whatever granules of brain power you may have to really think about, because what would be the effect? Without me having some prior knowledge as to his role or utility what good would it do me, alleged scum redirector, to redirect infinitum when I was pressing him as scum the previous day?

None.

Instead, it's more plausible that I, Bubbles, the prime version of the bubble-bobble tracker masonry, actually am a loving tracker, who tracked the guy he thought was scummy and caught him red-pawed killing KB.

That's way more plausible than a highly orchestrated plot to kill KB, and redirect Inf. IF KB was going to be protected by anyone why would I assume Inf is doing it?

There's a lot with Inf's argument that is contingent upon coincidence or some near psychic degree of insight, where as tracking the person you thought were scummy just makes sense.

What don't you all see about this?

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