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CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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I am signing up for this mafia game

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CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Asiina posted:

So this is a fairly serious game where I expect people to actually try. If you guys are planning to just shitpost or lurk please do not sign up.

I'm gonna do it for you asiina

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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I told asiina I would be a good kitty.

So given that I wanna say that I, of course, should be treated as I am the best of all time.

##treat cpig

and that secondly

##vote jimmy

because this kind of thing is all we can expect from him the whole game because that is how he rolls.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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BottleKnight posted:

don't like this sentiment in any context


votefinder treats a vote for "jimmy" as voting for jimson

bah

##vote jimmyhats

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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The treats building up on FL are kind of weird.

I don't understand on day 1 of a game like this why everyone isn't just trying to get themselves treated, we are loving cats people, we want the treats for ourselves.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:

So I am still active this game. Have read it all, no real opinion. Jimmy hat lynch js dumb. Work is insane cuz of end of month stuff that didn't get done. Love u all

I ask you this then. Who is a better lynch?

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

OK, I am most suss of CPig. Tosses shade on players using their treats not for themselves then tries to get people to case for him.


I say that the better lynch is you pig, because that seems like scumplay.

##vote CapitalistPig , a swine in cat's fur.

lol u dumb

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Ace retort chieftain.

*licks nards unabashedly, eyes locked with CPig, one furry leg extended high overhead*

like, I don't know why you expected any more, I mean you HAVE played with me before you know how i roll.

Here is a better retort.

You are dumb, and also wrong about your idiot read.

Better?

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Seriously though, using your own meta to defend yourself? And one vote by me ruffles your feathers? Hmmmm... Meoowww, how curious.

lol if you think this is ruffled.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Somberbrero posted:

in my experience when pig plays into his own meta like this he's scum. he's actually a really smart and intuitive player with a great sense of the social game.

##vote pig

:shrug: if you say so

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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I think the fact that all the people voting me are going for a low hanging fruit "easy" day 1 town mislynch speaks volumes.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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and AA is pushing this very hard on some pretty flimsy reasoning.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Jimmy Hats posted:

Lol you tried this on me ya mook.

##vote cpig

yeah thats because its true

I am very often a target for scum because no matter what my alignment is I am always scummy, or a question mark which frequently makes me a target.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Not pushing it hard at all. Show where in my post history that I push hard.

I got caught up and you were stood out amongst what was mostly d1 chaff.

comparatively speaking based on the activity level of this game.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

I will say that the swift wind of support behind the vote does make me second guess myself though.

Honestly I understand your reasoning and agree that I look like the best thing going currently, so tbh I feel like townie vibes from you

Somberbrero posted:

in my experience when pig plays into his own meta like this he's scum. he's actually a really smart and intuitive player with a great sense of the social game.

##vote pig

I can also see town somber feeling this way because he (mistakenly) believes this.


Jimmy Hats posted:

Lol you tried this on me ya mook.

##vote cpig

Even though jhats is an idiot for using this logic, I can even see this vote.

The vote that is terrible on me though

Infinitum posted:

##vote cpig

Infinitum posted:

14 hours until lynch.

Imma go to bed and hopefully CPig will already be lynched when I wake up

is this crap.

##vote inf

every other vote on me at least tried to have a reason.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Jimmy Hats posted:

CPig using the same 'you're all idiots and bad players!' defense that he used when i sussed out he was roadhog.

you mean when you were wrong about me being roadhog?

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Jimmy Hats posted:

CPig using the same 'you're all idiots and bad players!' defense that he used when i sussed out he was roadhog.

also I call everyone idiots in almost every single mafia game, it is kind of my thing.

If there is no other meta I have it is that I call people idiots.

It's almost a catchphrase at this point.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Jimmy Hats posted:

I don't remember that part. Are you sure..?

You remember drat well.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Infinitum posted:

Right then.

First and foremost, I know that when I play mafia I'm usually always strong point of contention due to my play style. I'm boisterous, opinionated, and a gigantic sarcastic arsehole. A lot of times I'll say something D1 that someone will latch onto, and my words will get spun into whatever narrative scum wants to run with.
That's fine, I know this.
That's how the game is played.

So what if I dangled a tantalising little fishy on a hook just before I went to bed?


Look at that.
It's such an ambiguously provocative statement, how could you NOT react to it as scum?
That's your spin doctor bread and butter right there.
"Holy poo poo Infinitum said something dumb, better jump right the gently caress on that one"

And guess what? They took the bait.


I did have a reason, and I stated it before. I agreed with AA's case on CPig


Then in swoops AA.
Suddenly the man who was giving out treats with no good logic behind it, and had cased CPig for being non-commital can see the scumminess in my post? Both CPig and AA know I'm an intelligent player, KNOW how much I love making cases, and they KNOW I'd never just pop down a Me-2 vote without having my reasons.

"But Inf. Wasn't AA voting for CPig?" I hear you ask?
Yes, but take a look at the posts in context. Cpig votes for me, and then AA joins in IMMEDIATELY afterwards.
As I said it was meant to be a provocative post to draw scum in.

All I'm seeing is AA bussing CPig early game for Town Cred, as CPig was at the time the likeliest lynch candidate, and then IMMEDIATELY jumping on whatever case his scumbro could make.

:bustem:

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tl;dr

AA+CPig scum
AA bussed CPig early for town cred
Both took bait I left hook line and sinker.

Of the 2, CPig is a more difficult read and would prefer him gone today. (All of his posts are "This is a stupid vote" or "I agree with this" nonsense)
It will be easier to read AA later.

##vote CPig

Lmao this is horrible reasoning. First of all you were the only vote on me that didn't have a reason. Just a contentless vote that is scummy. You act like you have this masterstroke case that amounts to poo poo (because you are wrong) writing lots of words doesn't make you right. You dropped a lovely me too vote on me and I called you out on it and now to act like the puppet master. And kb, I'm embarrased for you that you fell for it.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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King Burgundy posted:

What do you think about Jimson?

Would vote, he's flip flopping as you pointed out.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Infinitum posted:

Oh look CPig is calling someone stupid and idiotic for voting for him again.

I've never seen that before.

Except neither of those words were used in the post you quoted?

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Infinitum posted:

You know what an adjective is, right mate?

:cripes:

I do but, I did not say you were dumb or an idiot in your "case" I just said it was wrong and your whole :master: case is full of ridiculous assumption and really isn't even close as much of a "gotcha" as you seem to think it is. you literally voted me without a word, just a contentless vote and a paragraph basically proclaiming that you were going to bed and no matter how you try to spin it, that is scummy behavior and isn't even close to the "hook" you seem to think it is.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Oh yes, sorry and an agreement with a case that also was not good.

If you cannot see why you look scummy and actually believe you pulled off some kind of genius puppetmaster bullshit then lol.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Jimmy Hats posted:

We're hosed for time let's get this done.

##vote cpig

we are hosed for time so you vote the person who only had 1 vote over inf, the vote leader?

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Infinitum posted:

So you're pushing for my lynch on a case I just systematically ripped apart by revealing the honeypot? :allears:

But you didn't rip it apart? You are just being arrogant. Like I have already said over and over it isn;'t the slam dunk you seem to think it is vizzini.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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derp posted:

lol, 1.5 hours is a loooooooong time bro

no he is the one who said we were hosed for time, I quoted it in the post you quoted.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Infinitum posted:

So you admit I have a valid point against you, but it's just not a valid 'slam dunk' point? :allears:

That absolutely is not what i said, nice try putting words in my mouth though.

Like I don;t know how much clearer I can be, your case is based in nothing , it is a nothing case that was manufactured in your own head saying you created a "honeypot" is assinine and ridiculous.

If someone does something scummy , and then calls it a honeypot after the fact it is not valid or a good case.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Infinitum posted:

Except I completely explained it in full.

You know my playstyle, you called me out on a ME-2 vote which is something I never do, and then I explained exactly what the post you jumped on was.
It was bait and you took it hook line and sinker.

No I don't "know your play style" beyond being insufferable every time I have to deal with you.

It wasn't bait and you calling me scum for calling you out on doing something scummy isn't really a real case.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Inf is trying really really hard and alas, his claim is bullshit.

##vote inf

##treat cpig

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Wooden treats are still v good. Obviously you never had one.
Missing out smdh.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Inf hosed up his claim and you are buying that hosed up atrocity hook, line and sinker.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Also aa probably scum or sk. I'd vote either one.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Infinitum posted:

:laffo: Cpig loving treating himself. loving hell man.

Yes. That is correct. You are stupid if you don't want treats in this game.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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AA convinced me, I think he is telling the truth bubbles and bobbles twin trackers makes the most sense.

inf visited KB, claiming as a bodyguard, but if he is a bodyguard why is KB dead?

inf also pushed a lovely illogical case against me yesterday claiming he baited a hook like some kind of puppetmaster which is total bullshit because of his logic of "Only scum would have taken the bait" even though the so called bait was literally just him being scummy which literally anyone regardless of alignment could see as scummy and vote for.

inf is scum.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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actually I think I may just be coming around on TM my strongest reads are inf and TM I think.

derp is town, and also wrong about me.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Somberbrero posted:

these posts are like an hour apart and then you back up aa again. can you expand on your thought process a bit more, moritz?

this is actually a super good point and a great reason to ##vote TM

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Somberbrero posted:

pig, do you think it's weird james hats chose to track kb rather than watch him?

yes it is weird, but Jhats is a lot like me as in he seems to just do whatever without thinking much about it.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Somberbrero posted:

I don't really buy that explanation. A watch is way more exciting than a track as town. KB was obviously a high priority target and tracking him would give jim marginal information at best.

here is you assuming the way you feel about something is the same way another person would.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Somberbrero posted:

it's not the simple though. there's not an easy way for me to rationalize a bad play like that. maybe assuming any kind of rationale is a mistake on my part, but i have to work from the perspective that each player is trying to advance their win condition.

let's look at it another way.

you're scum. james hats isn't on your scum team.you know that james hats can watch at night. would you try to kill kb with a claimed watcher on the board?

well no of course not tht would be silly, unless they have something to mitigate that, but we are falling heavily into wifom territory.

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CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

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Somberbrero posted:

but these are all established points! scum knew there was a watcher and still chose to kill the most obvious nk target, and James just happened to take a completely useless action instead of catching them?

besides as AA has pointed out, there are definitely some inconsistencies with him claimed role.

The wifom part is that we have no idea the kind of fuckery that exists within this game. Like asiina specifically made this game to make a game that could not be solved by night actions.

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