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Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta



Raygereio posted:

It's the hat right? That's what makes it lore friendly?

At this point the lore of fallout is that everything revolved around the 50's aesthetic and also sex. Like this Immersive Power Armor HUD.

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King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

The video arcade made me what I am today!


"...yet aesthetic". I mean, I guess technically "lovely and unappealing" is an aesthetic.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Brainamp posted:

At this point the lore of fallout is that everything revolved around the 50's aesthetic and also sex. Like this Immersive Power Armor HUD.

Ah, noted 50's pinup star Christie Mack. Couldn't they at least have gone with Betty Page or something?

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

Spiked salad forks in velvet evening gowns?!

Seahorsesteak knives in frilly skirts?!

TEASPOONS IN TEA DRESSES?!


College Slice

I'm pretty sure "lore friendly" is just one of those phrases mod makers put into their description to get more downloads regardless of what they're actually making. Like how video game kickstarters will always say they have "roguelike elements" even when they don't.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

The video arcade made me what I am today!


Brainamp posted:

At this point the lore of fallout is that everything revolved around the 50's aesthetic and also sex. Like this Immersive Power Armor HUD.

Why didn't they just go all the way and make the bullet holes into nipples?

Backhand
Sep 25, 2008


King Vidiot posted:

Why didn't they just go all the way and make the bullet holes into nipples?

New syringer ammo: Opponent sprouts breasts at area of impact.

Max Wilco
Jan 22, 2012

Fare-thee-well, oh you Barbary merchants,
Fare-thee well to the Spanish Blockade,
Fare-thee-well to the Straits of Gibraltar,
and the treacherous seas of Cathay...


King Vidiot posted:

Why didn't they just go all the way and make the bullet holes into nipples?

That'll probably be in the next update.

Also, why do the images on the right look like there are bars overlaid on the viewscreen? Is that supposed to be for the raider armor?

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009


King Vidiot posted:

Why didn't they just go all the way and make the bullet holes into nipples?

Lore friendly - That particular B-25 had a rather prominent bolt head on that panel.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


Backhand posted:

New syringer ammo: Opponent sprouts breasts at area of impact.

Much as I like the idea, it means someone might actually use the syringer for something, and that idea runs so contrary to the way Fallout 4 normally plays it'd make the mod lore-unfriendly.

Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Craptastic
Asslicious
It is for to waste
the time


Shady Amish Terror posted:

I can't think of TOO many games that fall deep into that trap though; sci-fi games sometimes have a problem with vehicles and weapons that are just a mess of vertices vomit, and I can think of a few games like Prototype or the (apparently incredible) Prey reboot where some of the creature designs are just visual nonsense.

the most egregious examples I can think of are the late 2000s where Gears of War and Unreal Tournament 3 happened, visual clusterfucks that read as pure noise in almost every frame, even if you turn off the grody color filtering. Doom 3 at times got pretty bad about it, but it was still simple enough that it's okay to look at and get what each thing is meant to be, even if the whole game is mostly greebles.
I'm sure there's some equally bad offendors, but those are the two ugliest examples I can think of.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


Oh god, ugh, UT3 was the loving worst, yeah. It's been a long time since then and they haven't really learned, either- they know the problem exists, and have tried to fix it but the artists at Epic are just addicted to greebling so they still have to have brightskins and player glow built into the game for the new one that's in progress.

Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Craptastic
Asslicious
It is for to waste
the time


aniviron posted:

Oh god, ugh, UT3 was the loving worst, yeah. It's been a long time since then and they haven't really learned, either- they know the problem exists, and have tried to fix it but the artists at Epic are just addicted to greebling so they still have to have brightskins and player glow built into the game for the new one that's in progress.

they've gone from one form of greebling (doom 3 times infinity) to now just aping the gently caress out of WETA Workshop because it's the new hot style, nevermind that they don't actually understand what makes WETA's stuff work in the first place. In the end Epic is getting worse because they have no consistent idea of who they are what they're doing, and it's eventually going to bite them in the rear end.


If this didn't have the UT logo on it, would you even know that this was for an Unreal game? Without me telling you, do you know what gun this is supposed to be?

Or this?

Diabetes Forecast fucked around with this message at Jul 7, 2017 around 23:19

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

Diabetes Forecast posted:

they've gone from one form of greebling (doom 3 times infinity) to now just aping the gently caress out of WETA Workshop because it's the new hot style, nevermind that they don't actually understand what makes WETA's stuff work in the first place. In the end Epic is getting worse because they have no consistent idea of who they are what they're doing, and it's eventually going to bite them in the rear end.


If this didn't have the UT logo on it, would you even know that this was for an Unreal game? Without me telling you, do you know what gun this is supposed to be?

Or this?

A man-portable anti-air flak cannon?

Seriously, either the camera is distorting the size of it or that thing is loving huge.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010



Diabetes Forecast posted:

they've gone from one form of greebling (doom 3 times infinity) to now just aping the gently caress out of WETA Workshop because it's the new hot style, nevermind that they don't actually understand what makes WETA's stuff work in the first place. In the end Epic is getting worse because they have no consistent idea of who they are what they're doing, and it's eventually going to bite them in the rear end.


If this didn't have the UT logo on it, would you even know that this was for an Unreal game? Without me telling you, do you know what gun this is supposed to be?

Or this?

Looks like a railgun sniper rifle and the flak cannon?

Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(


At a guess, is the first a shock rifle? The design elements are kind of trending that way. It looks like goofy nonsense, admittedly, but it's distinct and consistent visual nonsense, at least. I honestly don't think this looks out of place in newer UT games.

Would the second one be a flak cannon? Big-rear end shield and ridiculous muzzle diameter kind of suggest it.

Don't get me wrong, those are hilariously goofy designs, but having too much excess surface detail doesn't seem to be the primary issue. The second gun is positively spartan by modern standards (which you could argue is a problem in and of itself, admittedly). Sorry for promoting derail, I'll probably just leave it off there.

marathon Stairmaster sesh
Apr 28, 2009

I too get confused when (insert male protagonist's name) out of the blue says "I love (insert female protagonist's name who is the love interest)" to me while I'm playing (insert currently popular video game name).

I thought the first was a shock rifle that had its barrels rotated and the second is obviously the flak cannon. It's not as bad as Quake Champions' weapon designs where you cant tell what the gently caress is supposed to be the lightning gun.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
too short to worry
She said life's
too long to wait
It's too short not
to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

Diabetes Forecast posted:


If this didn't have the UT logo on it, would you even know that this was for an Unreal game? Without me telling you, do you know what gun this is supposed to be?
Railgun.

Grenade launcher.

Those would be my guesses, if I didn't know it was from UT.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

not even worth red text

Gun nerds are the absolute worst. Thank god they at least have the courtesy to be significantly more likely to kill themselves than the rest of the population or there would be even more of them.

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Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Craptastic
Asslicious
It is for to waste
the time


The answer to those two: The Lightning Gun and they made a new Grenade Launcher because, and I quote: "The rocket launcher grenade altfire is too spammy", so they made a dedicated spammy grenade launcher.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?


Guy Mann posted:

Gun nerds are the absolute worst. Thank god they at least have the courtesy to be significantly more likely to kill themselves than the rest of the population or there would be even more of them.

Go gently caress yourself, what a massive shithead thing to say.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

~death to capitalism~
Chrome OS is shit
Every DSA is a cop


Salad Prong

Yardbomb posted:

Go gently caress yourself, what a massive shithead thing to say.

Why don't you cry to your guns about it, nerd. Preferably one of the really badly textured ones.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

Cat Army


can we not do this here

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

once he lurked the darkness seeking to quell the unnatural thirst begat to him. he lurks still, yet now haunted by his sins he seeks only to do enough good to wash his soul of their memory.

some call him devil

some call him angel

he is
the forever knightey


Yardbomb posted:

Go gently caress yourself, what a massive shithead thing to say.
Please don't let his words hurt you. You have a lot to live for.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Target's in my sights...

*Zap! Zap!*

<Player has defeated D. Smart>


Dinosaur Gum

Furia posted:

I'm the stock you could never use because it's a triangle and would dig into your flesh. I'm also the unnecessarily large trigger and redundant iron sights

Actually gently caress it I'm the whole thing

Depending on how you shouldered it, and the amount of recoil its more likely itll ramp off your shoulder at escape velocity and end up in the next dlc


Oh poo poo I'm a gun nerd. I almost missed my 3 o'clock suicide.

Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at Jul 8, 2017 around 07:04

marathon Stairmaster sesh
Apr 28, 2009

I too get confused when (insert male protagonist's name) out of the blue says "I love (insert female protagonist's name who is the love interest)" to me while I'm playing (insert currently popular video game name).

The Iron Rose posted:

can we not do this here

If you want we can talk about Arma 3 tank mods instead.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Target's in my sights...

*Zap! Zap!*

<Player has defeated D. Smart>


Dinosaur Gum


Was expecting to see a NOD Tick Tank. Very disappointed.

Icedude
Mar 30, 2004



As weird and impractical as that is, it's at least cool to look at and fits alongside some of Arma3's more scifi poo poo. Although the thin flat body does come close to that hilariously bad Dahir Insaat design

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Was expecting to see a NOD Tick Tank. Very disappointed.
And now you have me wanting a Tiberian Sun mod for Arma. Thanks.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007




I'm comparing the size of the ammo box to the size of the barrel

Orv
May 4, 2011

"To. Ya' know. Stuff."
(Nazi Rank <3)


The Lone Badger posted:

I'm comparing the size of the ammo box to the size of the barrel

That's probably not an ammo box, to make it even dumber. UT weapons usually just work until they're empty.

Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.



At least here they had the good sense to put the cheesecake somewhere that didn't block off their peripheral vision.

Max Wilco
Jan 22, 2012

Fare-thee-well, oh you Barbary merchants,
Fare-thee well to the Spanish Blockade,
Fare-thee-well to the Straits of Gibraltar,
and the treacherous seas of Cathay...


Diabetes Forecast posted:

they've gone from one form of greebling (doom 3 times infinity) to now just aping the gently caress out of WETA Workshop because it's the new hot style, nevermind that they don't actually understand what makes WETA's stuff work in the first place. In the end Epic is getting worse because they have no consistent idea of who they are what they're doing, and it's eventually going to bite them in the rear end.


If this didn't have the UT logo on it, would you even know that this was for an Unreal game? Without me telling you, do you know what gun this is supposed to be?

Or this?

I've never played any of the Unreal Tournaments, so I wouldn't be able to tell anyway. The first picture looks like part of the gun barrel is wrapped in plastic.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?


Jobbo_Fett posted:

Was expecting to see a NOD Tick Tank. Very disappointed.

The world needs more C&C mods, period.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Target's in my sights...

*Zap! Zap!*

<Player has defeated D. Smart>


Dinosaur Gum

Icedude posted:

And now you have me wanting a Tiberian Sun mod for Arma. Thanks.

You're welcome.


Yardbomb posted:

The world needs more C&C mods, period.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010



I think that Overwatch has some of the shittiest weapon designs that I've ever seen. The new character they just revealed has some kind of shotgun mounted on... his knuckles? It just looks like a regular glove but it's shooting things, somehow.

At least the things in Quake Champions and Unreal Tournament look like they are some kind of gun or weapon.

Guy Mann posted:

Gun nerds are the absolute worst. Thank god they at least have the courtesy to be significantly more likely to kill themselves than the rest of the population or there would be even more of them.

marathon Stairmaster sesh
Apr 28, 2009

I too get confused when (insert male protagonist's name) out of the blue says "I love (insert female protagonist's name who is the love interest)" to me while I'm playing (insert currently popular video game name).

I found Doomfist's ranged inspiration; now I want to see a mod of this in cowboy games.

Edit: Except the HL1 mod Wanted (timecode 48:15 due to mobile not copying timestanps).

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Jawnycat
Jul 9, 2015


Speaking of UT...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kamXcmTFnkc

Internet Friend
Jan 1, 2001



Max Wilco posted:

I've never played any of the Unreal Tournaments, so I wouldn't be able to tell anyway. The first picture looks like part of the gun barrel is wrapped in plastic.

Hard surface guys are jealous character artists get to play with Marvelous Designer so adding cloth to your gun or robot is going to become the next big meme.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010



Internet Friend posted:

Hard surface guys are jealous character artists get to play with Marvelous Designer so adding cloth to your gun or robot is going to become the next big meme.

As far as railguns go the design actually makes some sense, as one of the major issues with current designs is the fact that the rails get so hot that they can only fire a handful of shots before failure. You'd want some pretty serious insulation.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES


turn off the TV posted:

As far as railguns go the design actually makes some sense, as one of the major issues with current designs is the fact that the rails get so hot that they can only fire a handful of shots before failure. You'd want some pretty serious insulation.

Wouldn't insulating the rails be the opposite of the solution to this problem?

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aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


Internet Wizard posted:

Wouldn't insulating the rails be the opposite of the solution to this problem?

No, the best thing you can do to the hot barrel of your machinegun in real life is covering it in cloth or even better plastic, because then it will melt, burn, and be toxic all at the same time.




And yes, I am totally jealous of Marvelous Designer now. I didn't know I was until you linked me that, but holy poo poo yes.

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