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corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
So the big news is ofc that Trump has won and he has won pretty bigly. Remember when bigly was funny because lol the wacky tv man is running for office lets make jokes about him. let's treat him like a joke while giving him endless tv time and talking about how he's SO CRAZY that he wants to deport mexicans and stop gay marriage, aka the things the republican party wants their candidates to do. you loving idiots you did this



so anyway it turns out that democrats decided not to go with the populist Bernie Sanders, who was doing well with demographics that democrats often struggle to get into polling booths such as the youth and new voters and instead chose hillary clinton because they are idiots. you can believe it was race fixing if you like, or you can just believe that it was a stupid decision made fairly, that's up to you. but then even though literally every polling prediction company in america said hillary would win, donald trump won and the democrats lost and they lost heavily. sure dems had a few wins -- tammy duckworth took over a senate seat, for example -- but it's a far cry from the wave they needed to take the senate. with one scotus hole already extant and more likely on the way it's going to be a very different supreme court. trump has vowed to destroy roe v wade but there's plenty other civil rights contingent upon supreme court rulings and nothing else. For example, gay marriage in states with no gay marriage laws is solely a right because of a 5-4 decision in the Supreme Court. And of course scotus can overturn any law they want, too, as they did with much of the voting rights act and may do with the rest of it. but they will also make america great again. i guess? anyway have fun in november and stuff. welcome to the year 2000 bitches!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L9kJtAM4D0

corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Nov 9, 2016

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Schizotek
Nov 8, 2011

I say, hey, listen to me!
Stay sane inside insanity!!!
Berniebros tank election, smugly gloat about how its everybody but their fault. Glad ya'll could crucify my future as part of your tantrum.
Turns out white people are garbage no matter their political affiliation.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Schizotek posted:

Berniebros tank election, smugly gloat about how its everybody but their fault. Glad ya'll could crucify my future as part of your tantrum.
Turns out white people are garbage no matter their political affiliation.

Sorry man, but

https://twitter.com/CarlBeijer/status/796222773970567171

This kind of narrative needs to change, because while white people caused a lot of trouble, they were not the Democrats only problem.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I am not going to try and see the bright side or figure out who's to blame or whatever.

Just, take care of each other and yourselves, everybody. I don't think I'm going to be able to talk much about politics for a while. But take care.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Schizotek posted:

Berniebros tank election, smugly gloat about how its everybody but their fault. Glad ya'll could crucify my future as part of your tantrum.
Turns out white people are garbage no matter their political affiliation.

Whether it was berniebros voting for trump or not, if you'd voted for Bernie in the primary this wouldn't have happened.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Dreylad posted:

Sorry man, but

https://twitter.com/CarlBeijer/status/796222773970567171

This kind of narrative needs to change, because while white people caused a lot of trouble, they were not the Democrats only problem.

it was so bizarre watching the hillary people talk about how OF COURSE all the unaffiliated latinos were voting clinton, she must have an impossible lead. in reality she got about 60% which is obviously more than half but not some kind of magic bullet

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~
I think I'm going to take a break from politics. It's not good for me to see ideals and hopes being dashed by the hatred and ignorance of the public. We're entering dark times and it's best that I focus on something else for a while.

Schizotek
Nov 8, 2011

I say, hey, listen to me!
Stay sane inside insanity!!!

VideoTapir posted:

Whether it was berniebros voting for trump or not, if you'd voted for Bernie in the primary this wouldn't have happened.

I voted Bernie you insufferable piece of poo poo. And then I voted for the candidate that wasn't going to rape my future and hand me back over to the slavering evangelicals on a silver platter because I'm not a loving idiot.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
maybe latinos were white all along

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
Good Lord (har har)

https://twitter.com/tperkins/status/796221899269349376

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Yeah, John Podesta should be speaking right now.

They are hosed in the brain,

Squashing Machine
Jul 5, 2005

I mean boning, the wild mambo, the hunka chunka

Schizotek posted:

Berniebros tank election, smugly gloat about how its everybody but their fault. Glad ya'll could crucify my future as part of your tantrum.
Turns out white people are garbage no matter their political affiliation.

Is this ironic, I can't tell. That scapegoat stopped being viable 6 months ago

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

remember how having that scotus vacancy was supposed to make the gop look bad? i'd argue it's actually a huge part of why they did so well -- it's the first election since roe v wade where they were able to say definitively "vote for us and abortion will be banned" and be right. hell, they might very well be able to ban gay marriage, too!

none of this "maybe rbg will die" nonsense, there's a straight chance to get back 50 years of civil rights changes in one election and they seized on it like their souls depended on it

Schizotek
Nov 8, 2011

I say, hey, listen to me!
Stay sane inside insanity!!!

corn in the bible posted:

maybe latinos were white all along

All three of the "Latinos" in my private school graduating class had naturally blue eyes. Latino is a bizarre NA concept that assumes that all of the people who speak Spanish must naturally be a uniform group. Most of those countries have a hella conservative white overclass that hates the blacks and indians as much as every other white person. Maybe more.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
Also, the much lauded LEGALIZE WEED DUDE propositions that have been passed will be meaningless if a Trump DOJ decides to enforce the still-present federal laws and go shut down the dispensaries like they used to do for medical marijuana. There's a ton of stuff we've just gotten used to, because government has been deadlocked for so long, that all of a sudden is back in action.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Squashing Machine posted:

Is this ironic, I can't tell. That scapegoat stopped being viable 6 months ago

Stuff like that ultimately drives people towards guys like Trump. You can't just namecall and bully people all the time and expect them to suddenly want to take your side on anything.

As for Clinton herself. I never want to hear about her again. She came to the Super Bowl to play against a loving amateur, and lost. You're supposed to be the career politician, you're supposed to be the chessmaster, and you get beat by the most beatable candidate ever? Get lost.

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good

corn in the bible posted:

Also, the much lauded LEGALIZE WEED DUDE propositions that have been passed will be meaningless if a Trump DOJ decides to enforce the still-present federal laws and go shut down the dispensaries like they used to do for medical marijuana. There's a ton of stuff we've just gotten used to, because government has been deadlocked for so long, that all of a sudden is back in action.

Oh, gently caress. ANWR is in some deep poo poo.

I mean, along with a lot of other important stuff, but that was something that had been so deadlocked it had completely fallen off the table and now suddenly there is nothing stopping Republicans from marching in.

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Why the media are not calling the last states?

They are giving more ammo to Trump.

They where always clueless.

Squashing Machine
Jul 5, 2005

I mean boning, the wild mambo, the hunka chunka

skooma512 posted:

Stuff like that ultimately drives people towards guys like Trump. You can't just namecall and bully people all the time and expect them to suddenly want to take your side on anything.

As for Clinton herself. I never want to hear about her again. She came to the Super Bowl to play against a loving amateur, and lost. You're supposed to be the career politician, you're supposed to be the chessmaster, and you get beat by the most beatable candidate ever? Get lost.

At the end of the day, we thought there was no way we could lose, so we decided to chastise the voters we would eventually need instead of courting them, full-stop. I'm sure it felt really good to do at the time but it just cost us the loving election.

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.
I am grateful that I'm a straight white male, because things are going to be absolutely terrible for every other group in America for the next few years if not decades. Sorry that we couldn't unite and do better as a country or even a human race, everyone.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

corn in the bible posted:

it was so bizarre watching the hillary people talk about how OF COURSE all the unaffiliated latinos were voting clinton, she must have an impossible lead. in reality she got about 60% which is obviously more than half but not some kind of magic bullet
So he won about 30% of Latinos and 9-10% of African Americans, both better than 2012 and 2008.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

skooma512 posted:

Stuff like that ultimately drives people towards guys like Trump. You can't just namecall and bully people all the time and expect them to suddenly want to take your side on anything.

As noted above, 52% of Trump voters were women or POC, so I would not be so sure about that. Apparently, name-calling and bullying works.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Ratoslov posted:

As noted above, 52% of Trump voters were women or POC, so I would not be so sure about that. Apparently, name-calling and bullying negging works.

ftfy

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

skooma512 posted:

Stuff like that ultimately drives people towards guys like Trump. You can't just namecall and bully people all the time and expect them to suddenly want to take your side on anything.

As for Clinton herself. I never want to hear about her again. She came to the Super Bowl to play against a loving amateur, and lost. You're supposed to be the career politician, you're supposed to be the chessmaster, and you get beat by the most beatable candidate ever? Get lost.

If he's so beatable, why hasn't he been beaten? Sure is a real lucky coincidence for him that he only went up against terrible awful candidates who couldn't win against anyone! After all, I'm sure he certainly would have lost to the candidate who lost to a terrible awful candidate who couldn't win against anyone. There's no way a professional con artist and fraudster could possibly be a decent political campaigner, especially when he's also a celebrity with reality show experience!

Magical Zero
Aug 21, 2008

The colour out of space.
Great job american retards, great job democrats that strategy of attacking a loving green cartoon frog really worked out. Thanks shitters!!!!

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Looks like... the deplorables



are you :twisted:

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

Rip planet earth, thx rural white voters

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Magical Zero posted:

Great job american retards, great job democrats that strategy of attacking a loving green cartoon frog really worked out. Thanks shitters!!!!
Where will you be when the Pepe commemorative stamp comes out?

Surprise Giraffe
Apr 30, 2007
1 Lunar Road
Moon crater
The Moon
This is astounding. End of an era for the US.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Clinton should have introduced a meme to counter Pepe.

Renoistic
Jul 27, 2007

Everyone has a
guardian angel.

Squashing Machine posted:

At the end of the day, we thought there was no way we could lose, so we decided to chastise the voters we would eventually need instead of courting them, full-stop. I'm sure it felt really good to do at the time but it just cost us the loving election.

As if logic and reason would work on those people. That ship sailed long ago.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Clinton should have introduced a meme to counter Pepe.
The whole Pepe/Basket of Deplorables/Alt-Right thing was such a loving stupid needless thing to get caught up in.

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Clinton should have introduced a meme to counter Pepe.

They did it, it was Lena loving Dunham.

Schizotek
Nov 8, 2011

I say, hey, listen to me!
Stay sane inside insanity!!!

Ratoslov posted:

As noted above, 52% of Trump voters were women or POC, so I would not be so sure about that. Apparently, name-calling and bullying works.

Nah. Combining all minorities and women to try to make it look like they came out in force for Trump is dumb and weird. You'd get the same "more than 50" result for the Bushes, Romney, and McCain This was just the dying spiteful gasp of the Republican main voting block. Trump got white women at the same rate as Obama got all women, 52%. He got slightly more of the black and latino vote, but even latinos were still democrat 2-1. This was a vote decided largely by the mobilization of conservative White Males.

Schizotek fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Nov 9, 2016

Squashing Machine
Jul 5, 2005

I mean boning, the wild mambo, the hunka chunka

Renoistic posted:

As if logic and reason would work on those people. That ship sailed long ago.

And that's exactly the attitude that cost us the election. Why bother engaging these people if they're all crazy assholes who will never see reason? Better just exterminate the lot of them, the toads.

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Schizotek posted:

Conservative White Males.

You forgot heterosexual and cis.

Squashing Machine
Jul 5, 2005

I mean boning, the wild mambo, the hunka chunka

Schizotek posted:

Nah. Combining all minorities and women to try to make it look like they came out in force for Trump is dumb and weird. You'd get the same "more than 50" result for the Bushes, Romney, and McCain This was just the dying spiteful gasp of the Republican main voting block. Trump got white women at the same rate as Obama got all women, 52%. He got slightly more of the black and latino vote, but even latinos were still democrat 2-1. This was a vote decided largely by the mobilization of conservative White Males.

This obviously isn't the dying gasp, seeing as they won. Also, it's an easy out to lay the blame at the feet of initial-capped Group I Don't Like but if we want to win future elections we probably should think a little harder.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

There is no dying gasp.

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

Squashing Machine posted:

This obviously isn't the dying gasp, seeing as they won. Also, it's an easy out to lay the blame at the feet of initial-capped Group I Don't Like but if we want to win future elections we probably should think a little harder.

Explain it then for us idiots. Right here, right now.

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corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
no, no, i am sure all those whites will die in the next 4 years and we can retake the senate and house and save freedom. clinton 2020

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