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slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
Autopsy report: maybe instead of talking about watching cat videos to cheer yourself up you go to Wisconsin or Michigan to try to get some votes

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Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Bernie was right about everything. You should've let him be your friend.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


radical meme posted:

Welp, that poo poo happened.

I finally recovered from my hangover and wanted to post in the Baloogan thread but it's already gone.

My two cents is that the people saying the Democrats lost touch with too many middle class white males is probably correct. Also, peepaw Bernie was not the answer. Socialism does not sell in the U.S., never has and never will in our lifetimes.

I'm glad C-SPAM is sticking around. Can't wait for the novels written about this.

meemaw abandoned you, it's time to accept your new peepaw

Harald
Jul 10, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
tried to stump the trump

was stumped instead

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Socialism does not sell in the US. That's why the self-identified Socialist consistently outpolled both Clinton and Trump.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


radical meme posted:

Socialism does not sell in the U.S., never has and never will in our lifetimes.
radical socialist Barrack Obama's approval ratings say otherwise.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
We need to get rid of the two party system but even after all of this it will never happen

Maybe America can be great without Democracy, something it doesn't deserve

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
*Loses unexpectedly to anti-establishment candidate in Michigan primary*

Hmmm, maybe I should try to understand why I lost there, nah too many good cat videos to watch today, lol

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Socialism does not sell in the US. That's why the self-identified Socialist consistently outpolled both Clinton and Trump.

Clinton also out polled Trump.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


hobbesmaster posted:

Clinton also out polled Trump.

we tried hillary's approach and it failed horrifically. now we try bernie's approach or we roll over and die

Too Poetic
Nov 28, 2008

hobbesmaster posted:

Clinton also out polled Trump.

remember when the hill shills were laughing at us for saying the polls were skewed

Harald
Jul 10, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Holy mootherfucking poo poo I still haven't wrapped my head around Donald trump becoming president of these united states of america

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

Venom Snake posted:


Another huge problem was overreaching. Instead of defending strongholds the democratic party over extended itself and got annihilated. If we would have kept the firewall we would have won by a slim margin but we would have won. Instead we chased idiotic dreams of blue Georgia/North Carolina and Arizona. Everyone in the campaign wanted to believe that dem strong holds would remain so no matter what.

this isn't an 'i told you so' since i didn't say anything, but i did think during the election that people were foolish to dismiss trump campaigning in michigan et. al. if the polls were correct he was doomed no matter what - so you should campaign to be in the best position assuming the polls are wrong by enough points to make you competitive. which they were.

so i guess the inverse is you should play defence assuming the polls are wrong by enough points to make your opponent competitive.

NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011

Venom Snake posted:

Warren doesn't want the Party reigns. It remains to be seen if Bernie wants them. I wouldn't blame him for giving up.

Wait a week. This was just a big blow. I think either of the two will step up.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

hobbesmaster posted:

Clinton also out polled Trump.

how'd that work out

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
Hillary Clinton needed some hypno-therapy from Revolver Ocelot to make her believe that she was, in fact, Bernie Sanders.

Seriously though, I don't know how anyone could hope to reform the Democratic Party or pivot it within the next four years, whether you supported Clinton or not. I haven't been in CSPAM since the primaries were over and expected this place to be rubble today. But given the deep structural rot of both parties, it seems like agitating for election reform is more worth your while than putting a fresh suit on the Walbochia-infested corpse that is the Democratic Party.

The_Politics_Man
Aug 25, 2015
purge the clintonist revisionist counter-revolutionary scum.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Too Poetic posted:

remember when the hill shills were laughing at us for saying the polls were skewed

they weren't skewed, they were wrong. there's a difference.

hobbesmaster posted:

Clinton also out polled Trump.

But Bernie was performing way better in the demographic that ended up deciding the election

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Augus posted:

they weren't skewed, they were wrong. there's a difference.

no

Augus
Mar 9, 2015



say that to my loving face, I dare you

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

radical meme posted:

My two cents is that the people saying the Democrats lost touch with too many middle class white males is probably correct. Also, peepaw Bernie was not the answer. Socialism does not sell in the U.S., never has and never will in our lifetimes.

these people are the worst

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

americong posted:

I get the vibe that sanders is genuinely just less of a dingus than corbyn

sanders is plainly too old to be the leader of the party anymore though imo

if only we had some genuinely talented politicians who also loved commie poo poo

i mean he can be the spiritual leader but yeah he ain't running for anything other than his senate seat anymore

The_Politics_Man
Aug 25, 2015
in seriousness, don't alienate the demographic your oppenent needs to win

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

MeatwadIsGod posted:

Hillary Clinton needed some hypno-therapy from Revolver Ocelot to make her believe that she was, in fact, Bernie Sanders.

Seriously though, I don't know how anyone could hope to reform the Democratic Party or pivot it within the next four years, whether you supported Clinton or not. I haven't been in CSPAM since the primaries were over and expected this place to be rubble today. But given the deep structural rot of both parties, it seems like agitating for election reform is more worth your while than putting a fresh suit on the Walbochia-infested corpse that is the Democratic Party.

Pretty sure agitating for electoral reform isn't going to help much because the the republicans are about to embark on disenfranchising as many democrats as they can.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Senor Dog posted:

It hasn't been that long since Trump was declared the victor. How do you know all this about their new positions? How do they have these new positions already even? Has this been brewing for a while or is it a position made while in shock that can easily be changed later?

Clinton and Friends blew it so hard that a neo nazi rapist is now president. They are on the next boat to Hawaii. I know what I know because Iv been talking to the Kaine crowd here in NOVA and from the people I follow for information.

The Kingfish posted:

No way, that's not how this actually works. They don't have a plan right now, but I can guarantee they are not "100% willing to hand everything over to the left"

Heres something to feel smug about : They all now realize that under a bernie like person they would keep most of their income and now they might lose it all cause Trump and Ryan don't know gently caress about economics. Whoever takes control is whoever wants it.


Peel posted:

seriously: they'll appear, and rally, if a left wing seems to be seriously taking over

If they did It would mean there is someone still at the bridge of the ship. There is nobody in the control room and were caught in the orbit of a star going supernova.

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

The Kingfish posted:

radical socialist Barrack Obama's approval ratings say otherwise.

Obama is not a socialist. poo poo he's the definition of third way centrist.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat

radical meme posted:

My two cents is that the people saying the Democrats lost touch with too many middle class white males is probably correct. Also, peepaw Bernie was not the answer. Socialism does not sell in the U.S., never has and never will in our lifetimes.

It's like he almost gets it, but then doesn't at the very end

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

resar posted:

purge the clintonist revisionist counter-revolutionary scum.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

radical meme posted:

Obama is not a socialist. poo poo he's the definition of third way centrist.

The point is that the label has lost much of its scare factor through overuse. And hell, younger Americans approve of socialism more than capitalism

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


i hear hillary likes star trek, here's a good quote for her:

"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


radical meme posted:

Obama is not a socialist. poo poo he's the definition of third way centrist.

You and I know that. Can you think of any people who might not know about or understand this fact?

Adventure Pigeon
Nov 8, 2005

I am a master storyteller.
It's a small lesson, but next time avoid shining the light on Lena Dunham, Lady Gaga, and their ilk. I doubt you could find two people that better embody the stereotype of a wealthy coastal liberal that doesn't understand or give a poo poo about anyone outside their bubble.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


millions of americans just voted for "quite literally anything that isn't what we have right now" but they're not ready for socialism.
ok

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

the only people who think socialism doesn't sell in the US are indoctrinated old people

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







so VS are you saying this is the end of the DNC as we know it?

like in the sense the election of lincoln was the death of the whigs?

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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hobbesmaster posted:

Clinton also out polled Trump.

from things i've read, magas were coordinating on every social media network we have, spreading two key points:

a: "Liberals and the Media" think all trump followers were racist shitheads (we pretty much proved this true) and
b: this belief that if you betrayed your allegiance to Trump too publicly, the machine would find a way to suppress your vote so "shh"

hence trump voters kept their loving mouths shut. it was an organized conspiracy to lie to the polls to enable the sneak attack because they knew polls were all the Democrats had.

e: I have no intention of ever voting for a DNC candidate again without a serious gutting and reform, preferably at least started by sanders

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

The Kingfish posted:

You and I know that. Can you think of any people who might not know about or understand this fact?

I suck at detecting sarcasm.

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Karl Barks posted:

the only people who think socialism doesn't sell in the US are indoctrinated old people

You mean the people who actually vote.

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

also brace for people who think what the democrats need is a good hearty dose of racism

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Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

FizFashizzle posted:

so VS are you saying this is the end of the DNC as we know it?

like in the sense the election of lincoln was the death of the whigs?

No the Democratic Party exists as a an old abandoned hosed up fortress but it's still there. All it's waiting for is someone to make it their home.

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