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The Kingfish posted:I just realized that Bernie and Warren are the leaders of the party now. it's time to rebuild
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 01:34 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 17:57 |
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Oh Snapple! posted:Do you think Democrats want Bernie to have the reigns and would actually allow him to take them if he himself actually wanted to? they better if they want to continue to exist
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 01:42 |
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radical meme posted:Welp, that poo poo happened. meemaw abandoned you, it's time to accept your new peepaw
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 01:57 |
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hobbesmaster posted:Clinton also out polled Trump. we tried hillary's approach and it failed horrifically. now we try bernie's approach or we roll over and die
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 02:02 |
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i hear hillary likes star trek, here's a good quote for her: "We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 02:12 |
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Glenn Quebec posted:Hillary lost because she came off goofy. She acted all friendly and it came off stilted. Like, look lady, we know you're a hardened career politician -- act like Margaret Thatcher and be an enormous tough bitch. Her image loving sucked and came off disingenuous. Looking forward to Chelsea 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 02:30 |
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Tatsuta Age posted:didn't read the thread but gently caress you venom snake v rude. venom snake has incremented towards leftism, while you refuse to pragmatically embrace the future
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 03:26 |
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Yinlock posted:i mean besides anime was right's fantastic post all i'm seeing about what she could have done better is "immediately concede to bernie sanders who would have won because[insert fanfiction]" because he actually had a message. abuela didn't and that's why she lost
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 03:59 |
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hmm i wonder why hillary lostquote:A New Hampshire voter asked: "As president, would you sign a bill, yes or no please, in favor of allowing they Keystone XL pipeline?" hmm hmm
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 04:05 |
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Mrit posted:Back in 2006, I was angry. Angry at the Republicans, angry at the weakness of the Dems. I was hard left, and wanted to destroy the current government. glad you're on board
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 04:07 |
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mrmcd posted:The rust belt was just as lovely economically in 2012. Republicans put up someone who came off like everyone's rear end in a top hat boss, sang his praises about what a skilled technocrat he was, and told people to hold their nose and vote for him.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 04:22 |
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venom snake, you said you wanted to discuss how to move forward? can you teach us cqc?
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 04:25 |
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http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/hillary-clintons-powerful-concessionquote:The ferocity of the attachments between Clinton and her staffers has been part of the story of her campaign; at times it has made them more defensive and probably (in the case of her private e-mail server) helped to trap Clinton into some bad choices. Her concession speech suggested a reason for that intensity: she believed that she and her staff represented a movement, even if her opponents to her left and right never saw her that way. it's called being delusional. she was high on her own farts
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 13:59 |
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this is a pretty good opinion piece on why hillary was a bad candidate and bernie would've won https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/10/hillary-clinton-lost-bernie-sanders-could-have-won
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 14:19 |
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triple sulk posted:The black vote didn't turn out. I'd be interested to see the turnout numbers in southwest Philadelphia in particular for similar reasons. i wonder why
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 15:18 |
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https://twitter.com/freddiedeboer/status/796718450945232897
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 15:20 |
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https://twitter.com/freddiedeboer/status/796717089394401280
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 15:21 |
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 19:45 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuGFJUnYwtk
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 20:34 |
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Homework Explainer posted:it's funny to see the same people who called me a paid kremlin stooge mysteriously disappear from this forum after the election they're huddling in dnd and huffing their own farts still
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 20:46 |
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remember when hillary refused to release her wall street transcripts and her faithful gave her a pass? remember when it came out that hillary was indeed in bed with wallstreet and her faithful blew it off because they were blinded by sunk cost fallacy?quote:Touching on her view of developing financial regulations, Clinton declared to a crowd of Goldman Sachs bankers that in order to “figure out what works,” the “people that know the industry better than anybody are the people who work in the industry.” good times
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 21:54 |
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Oh Snapple! posted:lmao where is this from https://theintercept.com/2016/10/07/excerpts-of-hillary-clintons-paid-speeches-to-goldman-sachs-finally-leaked/
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 22:04 |
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 23:07 |
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mastershakeman posted:where can I order a bunch of these https://shop.hillaryclinton.com/products/the-woman-card hillary's gonna need the money anyway
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 23:12 |
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you know what's hosed up? the planned parenthood pac brought about the certain destruction of planned parenthood by interfering with the primary
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 01:18 |
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Here's a fun little article: Hillary Clinton’s strategies cost Hillary Clinton the election quote:Democratic clustering didn’t start in 2016, but it lost Hillary Clinton the Electoral College because she thought it would energize her base if she put half the country in a “basket of deplorables.” one interesting perspective this article made me think of: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/796222841612042240?ref_src=tw if you supported hillary as the safe candidate over bernie sanders you literally are responsible for trump. it was hillary's bright idea to make trump her opponent and she couldn't pull a win off him. if people had gone all in on bernie, it might've been JEB! vs bernie instead of idiot vs trump and we would almost certainly be in a better position today.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 01:40 |
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Lastgirl posted:I find it pretty hard to see her as part of the feminist movement because she is way more entrenched with the elites. Her status is well above working class people who have to deal with sexual harassment or racism on a daily basis or even frustration for not being able to have a meal on their plate for dinner and it showed through out her campaigning, having private dinners and 500 dollar tickets to see her speak etc. We can appreciate the fact that thirdwayism is completely dead and its time for a democrat populist movement, speaking of which i have no issue with ex-hillbots i want to do my best to disabuse the remaining hillaries of the notion she was a good candidate
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 02:29 |
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Terror Sweat posted:she loving helped trump win the goddamn primaries. thats all you really need to say i have been
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 02:34 |
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:I just wanna say that seeing a bunch of the most hardcore Clinton posters admitting they were wrong is giving me some hope that the future can somehow get unfucked. Not many people can go above digging in their heels and have an honest change oh heart. Good on you guys and welcome back. this also, venom snake, if you ever have the time i'd like it if you went and worked a part time job in the poorer areas of d.c. doing that in oklahoma and texas formed a lot of the reason I was so anti-hillary this campaign, cause I saw these people working their asses off every day and trying to do their best and getting poo poo on endlessly because they didn't have the right parents, connections, or genes. we didn't do the basics we needed to to attract these people who should be able to look to us for relief, and it cost us the election.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 12:46 |
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mastershakeman posted:she's famously a candidate who takes positions based on polls and then was betrayed by polls in her greatest hour of need. they were her one ring more like palantir
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 15:29 |
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Zikan posted:Schumer backing keith confirms what venom snake is saying about the party being completely leaderless and broken. It's really difficult to overstate how much of the internal power structure of the democratic party has been violently upeneded with the collapse of the clinton faction, with hundreds of party apparatchiks completely giving up and leaving or having an extreme existential crisis i'm glad the corporatists just realized they handed the keys of government to fascists with their idiocy i'd have prefered they woke the gently caress up during the primary but whatever
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 15:36 |
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Peel posted:tbf she probably would have won with better data yep, that's what irks me the most about the "hillary lost because of racism" posters. if she had motivated people just one tiny smidgen better, she would've won. and it's not like she was trying. maybe instead of having a cameo in broad city hillary could have had a rally in the rust belt talking about her jobs retraining and the green jobs she was gonna bring them
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 15:55 |
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MysteriousStranger posted:Basing it on being data driven lets you pay poo poo tons of consultants. Those consultants are upper income professional class social liberals that live in the richest cities in the US, those cities are Democratic power centers. It funnels money to the right people in the right places, which is the entire point of the party. It's not a bad thing. well, cept when that funnel gets in the way of downticket races oops!
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 15:59 |
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speaking of, what kind of horrific debt do you think the shittastic DNC leadership left us from this election? how much do you guys think they overextended themselves expecting a constant stream of "donations" after hillary won?
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 15:59 |
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TyrantWD posted:What did Trump do other than promise to bring coal and steel back? Retraining people to work in the manufacturing jobs of the future does not appeal to anyone, and that's probably the only way out for these communities. Why do these voters vote so heavily for a Republican party that explicitly runs on all of the things that would hurt their communities even more? It's not like Berniecrats are dominating in rural America. nafta repeal, tpp trashed, ppaca repeal
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 18:19 |
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A Winner is Jew posted:hello everyone that was right and i was 100% wrong in ignoring / arguing with / belittling / being an rear end in a top hat to / and being an all around rear end clown that deserves to be gently caress barreled for the rest of my life for my actions as long as you're with us now i don't care. we need to provide a strong alternative to trump in 2018
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 22:21 |
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mrmcd posted:"White working class voters suffering economically will never accept a black Muslim party administrator even if we offer attractive populist policies!" I continue to insist as I shrink and turn into a centrist corncob being flushed down the toilet along with Obama's entire legacy.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 22:43 |
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when does :bernget: return? we need it to organize!!
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 22:45 |
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Atrocious Joe posted:
not even gonna offer token resistance? maybe actually try to make up for what she we were? no? gently caress you obama
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 23:18 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 17:57 |
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loquacius posted:Thanks for this thread, guys, it's nice to see people taking this poo poo seriously when my usual political discussion space (politoons thread) is full of people who refused to discuss Clinton's flaws during the election and refuse to discuss the DNC's flaws now. Why people would rather clamp their hands over their ears and say "it was all those racists out there, nothing we could do, nothing we can do, la la la" than figure out how to actually loving win poo poo is beyond me. just post this at them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwfYTSdJ7kY
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 23:39 |