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Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

mrmcd posted:

Why is Donna Brazile not fired yet?

By the time they put someone else into the position, it'd be time to replace her anyways.

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Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Guy Goodbody posted:

You're saying there should be more word problems?

Don't want to derail too much on math stuff, but an enormous amount of math education is memorizing tables and practicing algorithms.

Common core math is an attempt to move away from that, and replace boring "Works every time, but takes 30 steps" algorithms with "Might not always be possible, but if you're clever you can solve a problem in 5 easy steps."

For example 1000001 - 2. Using long subtraction, it's going to involve quite a bit of borrowing, crossing out numbers, writing little '1's all over the place. But if you let kids play around with the number, they can turn it to 1000000 - 1, and intuitively recognize that any number that ends in all zeroes is one greater than the same number less one, followed by all nines, and get an answer of 999999.

The point here is to permit multiple paths to the answer, teach it as a creative problem solving process, and actually prepare them for higher level math.

I know a lot of people struggle with calculus because there's no algorithm to tell you which integration rule to use. You've just got to fiddle with the numbers and see if you can puzzle it out.

On word problems, you need good word problems. Problems that sound like things that could really occur.

"You are in charge of maintaining city streets. There are 100 potholes in the city and you have one week including weekends to fix them all. You have $100,000 in extra budget for the project. You have one team that's already paid for, and they can fill 10 potholes a day. You can hire an extra team for $20,000 a day, and they can fill 6 potholes a day. You can also hire a discount team that can only fill 2 potholes a day, but only cost $5000 a day.

If there's extra money left over after fixing all the potholes on time, you can keep 10% as a bonus.

What is your solution, and how large is your bonus?

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Freaking Crumbum posted:

I get not everyone learns the same way and that memorizing tables and equations and formula is boring as hell for 90% of the population, but the way you worded your example seems like an extreme overreaction to try and find a counterbalance to that.

You still teach the algorithm, but you add the other methods as well to show that there are multiple paths to an answer.

A lot of it is focused on rearranging the problems to be easier, or make simpler algorithms possible.

It also emphasizes things like estimation and predictions, so that even when you do end up using an algorithm, you're also applying a sanity check. So when you divide one million by 2.103 you know you're probably going to end up with a number that's a little less than 500,000. If you screw up a step and end up with 50,000 ish, you know to recheck your work.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Samurai Sanders posted:

I've seen "fake news" thrown around a lot recently but like Zuckerberg says, is it merely factually wrong or just opinions people don't want to hear so they call it fake?

News outlets around the world are reporting on the news that Pope Francis has made the unprecedented decision to endorse a US presidential candidate. His statement in support of Donald Trump was released from the Vatican this evening:

“I have been hesitant to offer any kind of support for either candidate in the US presidential election but I now feel that to not voice my concern would be a dereliction of my duty as the Holy See.

WTOE 5 News is a fantasy news website.  Most articles on wtoe5news.com are satire or pure fantasy.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Groovelord Neato posted:

i'm just bewildered that anyone would think the pope - especially THIS pope - would endorse trump.

People believe what they want to believe. There's good money in telling people what they want to hear.

We're hosed.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
My thread is sort of a lovely joke, but I'm trying to fill in a basic plan for 50 states on how to get involved with the local party. It's got a much narrower scope than this thread.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3798151

I'm an expert in Arizona.

It's seriously sad that this is so hard.
The Republicans have a 50 state guide on how to get involved. No wonder they're able to capture people who feel alienated.

I can pretty much guarantee that there's local meetings going on everywhere, but the info is only spread through channels that people over the age of 80 follow.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

I don't think it's age as much as it is how much money do you have in the stock market and how much can you give to our "reelection" efforts

Right now, at this moment, in your community, there's a room full of people complaining that the speed limits are too high, the airport is too loud, and that there are too many kids at the library. One of them is a democrat in your state's legislature.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

GlyphGryph posted:

http://www.glyphgryph.com/

Making some updates to the (admittedly still very poo poo) website. If anyone has any information for getting involved with their state level or even more local parties after digging around, especially in New York and Texas, please let me know. i'll try to add it all to the website and have something approaching a central directory. For states where there's no online info listing this already, we'll probably create new spreadsheets.

I'm probably one of the best points of contact for Arizona. PM me. I have more contacts in the Phoenix/Maricopa County area.

The basic level of meeting is at the LD level in Maricopa and Pima county, otherwise it's county meetings only.
http://www.azdem.org/county-legislative-district-committees
Here's the calendar
http://www.azdem.org/calendar

The basic level of power in the party is the Precinct Committeeman. You can be either appointed or elected. Only elected PC's can vote at the LD level, but elections are every two years so it's too late for now.
Being appointed is easy if you show up more than twice. Being elected is a pain, you fill out a form, get it notarized, and then collect 10 signatures from democrats in your neighborhood.
http://recorder.maricopa.gov/electi...mmitteemen.aspx

Run for State Committee. At least in Maricopa County, for every two elected PCs, they get one State Committee slot. Again, attendance is a big help for this.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

GlyphGryph posted:

Hey, what was this link supposed to be? That's not right.

Also, thanks a ton for not just the contact info but actually explaining how things work. I've updated the website.

http://recorder.maricopa.gov/elections/precinctcommitteemen.aspx

http://recorder.maricopa.gov/elections/precinctcommitteemen.aspx


One thing I want to add is the reason to get on the State Committee. They're the ones who elect the chairs, who are the ones who vote for the DNC chair.
These things aren't always decided by a landslide, and a convincing argument one way or the other might actually change a vote at the national level.

Getting involved at this level puts you basically on par with someone who drops a few thousand dollars a year into political races as far as influence goes.

Dr. Arbitrary has issued a correction as of 20:41 on Nov 17, 2016

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
What's nuts to me is that there definitely is some sort of local presence in every state, but we're a group of pretty sharp people and can't seem to find a way in.

What hope would a less connected person working on their own have?

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
VAN access is expensive. Every local group needs to raise their part of the cost. Fair enough.

I think every local group ought to get a nationbuilder page. That's not super cheap, maybe a few hundred a year.

Sometimes they rent office space during election season as a campaign HQ. $$$

I'll actually look into this and see what the County level and state parties actually spend money on.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
Pumpkin Spice Party

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Lemming posted:

I don't understand why socialists want to start their own party, they could eat the Democrats from the inside out just by showing up lmfao

Edit: Spend $100k making a sick nasty website template that every county chair can use to show info like where meetings are being held, what times, how to get involved, etc, then advertise a site that encourages people who want to make a difference to put in their home location and it directs them when and where to show up

This can't be loving hard, right?

I've been saying this for a while.

There was a local antifa group in my town that was talking about protesting the local Democratic meeting.

I told them that if they asked nicely they could probably get on the agenda. Heck, if they put half the effort into showing up, we'd have an antifa committee at the state level.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Gonna get that covered brony vote.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
Don't they have like a 70% profit margin?

If the cost doubles, they'll go from $200 to $400, but they sell for around $650.

I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for Apple here.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

OAquinas posted:

Ugh. My local dem meeting is on thanksgiving. Somehow, I doubt they're actually going to meet then.

You'd think they'd see that and reschedule.

Oh, they've already rescheduled, and the chair sent out an email from his hotmail account to a mailing list they started on six years ago and never updated.

Similar thing happened in my district, I didn't know until I showed up. The county even spent money to send letters to people asking them to come in on the wrong day.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I'd love to join your organization, and then immediately schism off into a vanguard party that represents the true ideals of Socialism.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Apraxin posted:

Democratic Senator says he's gonna back appointing Sessions as AG. (It's Joe Manchin, of course, but still UGHHHHH.)

Also gonna quote this thing I posted in another thread, in case anyone here might have an answer (beyond 'lol, yes they are'):

I don't think they're really that bad, but the people running local stuff really have no idea how to make themselves known to the world and the State and national party don't give a poo poo.

I don't think I have the slightest national clout, but I have a few representatives I can bother, maybe they'll be able to help me out with making this a priority for the national party.

Sorry your local party sucks :(
It might be an opportunity, if you make the right phone calls, you can become the grand poobah by default.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
If you can find one thing that you really like about a candidate, you're not going to give a poo poo about all of the lies that people tell about them to keep you from getting that one cool thing.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Crowsbeak posted:

Send them to reeducation centers in the aleutians.

Privatised reeducation centers to keep costs down.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Groovelord Neato posted:

in a lot of states you have to register for a party to vote in its primary. if i stayed indie i couldn't have voted for bernard.

In most states there's literally no advantage to being independent. It just voluntarily excludes you from certain political processes. It doesn't prove a point, it doesn't send a message, it just fucks you in exchange for being able to smugly say "Actually, I'm independent."

Register in a way that maximizes your political influence. If that means registering as a Republican to try and get more moderate candidates, do it.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

punk rebel ecks posted:

So there is a post election meeting for the Dems in my county at 7:00PM tomorrow. The problem is that I won't be able to get their until 7:30PM as I have work, and I am not a registered Democrat. Should I still go or am I even able to?

I don't know how it works everywhere, but my meetings usually start 15 minutes late.

I know that Republicans often check registration, never seen it for Democrats.

If you're independent, you should be okay.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Azuth0667 posted:

Not true, sometimes in deep red country running as an independent is the only way to dislodge a lovely incumbent.

Oh, if you're running for office, have at it. The rules are totally different in that case.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Baloogan posted:

we're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine
and the machine is bleeding to death

I nominate Dead Flag Blues as the 2016 official theme song.

The skyline was beautiful on fire
All twisted metal stretching upwards
Everything washed in a thin orange haze.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin





Dr. Arbitrary has issued a correction as of 15:59 on Nov 21, 2016

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
The first meeting I went to was a holiday party four years ago.
If you're gonna be brave and go to a meeting, might as well get some cookies and stuff out of it!

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
Ok, I got reelected to the Arizona State committee.

I'm getting some support from somewhat influential people and they're asking me to think about running for chairman. I don't think I'm qualified or have the time for that, but I think I can push for a commitment that whoever does get elected to vote for Ellison.

At a state level, I think it's totally reasonable that any Democrat in the state should be able to open the State website, click a "Get involved" button, type in your address, and have the location and time of your next meeting.

If it means we need to get a Cisco WebEx subscription and do teleconferences where people can call in, then maybe we need to commit the money for that.

Last week I was trying to help someone in Anthem find their meeting, it was up in Flagstaff. It's a 2 hour drive each way. That's not acceptable.

I think every single district ought to have a professional looking website, an email address and a Facebook page. I think someone mentioned that if it was done at a high level, they could make a template and just paste that all over the country. That's such an obvious idea that it's stupid that it isn't already done.

This stuff all costs money, but it seems like the stuff we've been spending on before isn't working.

On a national level, the thing I said before should still apply. Click "Get involved" and have the time and date for the next meeting, no matter where you live.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Karl Sharks posted:

idg why stronger together is so terrible?

Because there's no call to action or anything.

People know that it's good to be strong, but that's a means to an end. Right now when people are worried about the direction of the country they don't want to hear about how fast we're gonna be moving.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I like:
Fighting for all of us!

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

platzapS posted:

Alright so I went to that Orlando Democratic meeting



UNCHARITABLE NOTES

-I was immediately greeted by a smiling young man who invited me to a Young Democrats event later this month. Other than him and a few others, the crowd of about 150 people skewed very old or middle-aged. At 26 I was probably in the youngest 10% of the crowd.

-It seemed roughly gender-equal. It seemed racially diverse, but not quite as black as the wider Orange County population. As a white person I may be overestimating diversity here.

-Other than the Young Democrats dude, nobody introduced themselves to me. I sat in a chair next to a friend I had invited and the meeting began.

-The meeting was run by three people sitting like British judges in the front of the room, facing the audience (the rest of us). The leaders were two women, and one man who did most of the talking. The meeting consisted of announcements and speakers called from a predetermined list.

Out of Touch
-Given the election results, the atmosphere was perversely optimistic. To be fair, Orange County Democrats outperformed Dems nationwide and even flipped a Congressional seat (FL-07, soon to be occupied by Stephanie Murphy). With one brief exception I'll mention later, there was no self-criticism or reflection, only the desperate insistence that Orange County Dems had done their part, dammit, regardless of what the rest of the party did. "We did our job" the leader said, "You did your job."

-“We all chipped in when Hillary Clinton had a debt.”

-"The election for 2018 has already started." Rick Scott was mentioned with disgust as a possible opponent to Sen. Bill Nelson.

-The Treasurer proudly noted "We have a few outstanding bills, mostly for the Christmas party.

"When Democrats vote, Democrats win" was quoted as if it were somehow insightful.

-"Are there any changes or objections to the minutes?" was asked, but I did not know what minutes are or what was written in them.

Internal Elections
-The main focus of the meeting was a series of short speeches by candidates for internal office, ranging from coldly strategic to folksy to boring. Two piqued my interest: one woman cited her involvment in Occupy Wall Steet, and one man pointed to the back of the room (a union hall) where Norman Rockwell's "Freedom of Speech" was hanging. It features a white working-class man speaking at a public meeting. The candidate noted that Donald Trump got a lot of such folks and said we need to win them back.

-Only precinct committeemen and committeewomen can run for or cast votes in this election. The only exception is local Democratic elected officials, like a miniature superdelegate system.

-Committeepersons can vote by proxy "if you do not want to attend", implying there are no committeepersons who cannot attend the Saturday morning election.

I have heard Socialists talk about a "member-oriented party", which I thought was as redundant as "patient-centered medicine" or "student-centered learning", but I think I understand now.

-One candidate wanted a permanent Hispanic subcommittee as well as a labor subcommittee. The fact that such a labor group does not exist was disappointing. There are currently common-interest women's, black, Hispanic, and disability caucuses but no labor caucus. I suspect there is a hidden capital caucus.

Overall it was dull, self-congratulatory, and opaque to me as an outsider.

A few thoughts.

Your meeting is much larger than the first one I went to, that seems really overwhelming.
The tone however, that was familiar. It might be surprising to a lot of people but a lot of issues don't really get discussed a lot because everyone's in agreement.

Some ideas for the next meeting (Please keep going. It only gets easier from here!)
Try to keep an eye on who seems influential. Introduce yourself to a few people, maybe find someone who looks important, let them know you're new, ask them to introduce you to some other people that you ought to know. Maybe get a "Hi my name is platzapS" nametag.

-Only precinct committeemen and committeewomen can run for or cast votes in this election. The only exception is local Democratic elected officials, like a miniature superdelegate system.

Find the process to become a committeeman. You might have to wait two years to run, but you might be able to get appointed if there's a vacancy. Find out. This is the first step up.

Find out what all the caucuses are, there are probably some room for more. Maybe a youth caucus, or a veterans caucus etc.

Don't get discouraged. By attending one meeting you're way ahead of the game.

Keep in touch with that young democrats guy.

Doesn't look like you have plat, but if you ever do, feel free to PM me with questions. I'm in a different state but I can probably help you figure out some of the confusing stuff.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Thoguh posted:

I watched like one youtube video of the protestors in North Dakota getting sprayed by water cannons and now I keep getting pro pipeline/anti-protestor political ads on youtube.

The fact that those ads even exist is kind of gross.

Make sure you click on them!

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Oh Snapple! posted:

How much of the Democratic death-grip on the issue of gun-control comes from the affluent, white end of the party being scared of poor POC.

I don't think it's 100%
I'm active in a community that is minority-majority and they definitely care about guns.

If it was up to me, I'd shift the bulk of the debate to suicide and accident prevention.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

2016 election prediction guide:
If you want to know what happens next, imagine the craziest outcome. That's what will happen.

Jill Stein is going to uncover massive tampering with the election numbers.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
Look, Trump won the election. Anything is possible now. Nothing is forbidden.

We are clearly living in a simulation run by a bunch of teenagers who want to see how nuts they can make things go.

Stein is going to prove that the Russians stole the election, it'll force a constitutional crisis, some stuff will happen and Hillary wins in the end.

In 2018 the Democrats take the Senate.

In 2020 Stein runs again but having her image completely turned around by her saving the Republic she wins a decent chunk of electoral votes causing no candidate to win. The Republicans still hold the House and vote in Trump. The Senate votes in VP candidate Bernie Sanders.

Bernie Sanders dies one month into office from natural causes. Speaker of the House Dave Brat ascends to the VP position.

Trump realizes that he hates being president and fires the US as a client and resigns.

Hail President Brat.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

zegermans posted:

Out of that list, I'm pretty sure that's one part that's impossible.

Well, it ends up with Democrats not gaining any seats, but the Green Party runs against several Republicans in States where the Democrats didn't even bother to run an opponent and win.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Vox Nihili posted:

again, it absolutely doesnt matter what you think she said or meant, what matters is what a bunch of voters thought she said and meant

https://www.amazon.com/Words-That-Work-What-People/dp/1401309291
It's Not What You Say, It's What People Hear

It's Not What You Say, It's What People Hear

It's Not What You Say, It's What People Hear

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Venom Snake posted:

You are not going to get Republicans to vote for you. Ever.

Negative campaigning pretty much only drives down turnout, but there's a limit. When Republicans literally believe that the Muslim family across the street is planning jihad, they're going to vote like their life depends on it.

Vote [Democratic Candidate] 2020
The life you save could be your own.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Condiv posted:

and whatever she blew on poo poo like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H51HuNX41Fg

There's got to be a campaign finance record showing this expense somewhere.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

That's the most sincere and likable picture of Hillary I've ever seen.
Hot take: Hillary's makeup team is at fault for her losing the election.

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Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

zegermans posted:

Yes, she spent her entire life being accused of the most heinous poo poo, and in an attempt to walk a tightrope for 18 months, she was way too rigid.

I don't disagree with this. :(

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