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Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Colonel Corazon posted:

What kinda work would interest you? Any particular area you'd like to get involved in? Do you want to do something thats local or has a larger scope? A lot of bigger organizations have local chapters or ties to regional groups so we can help narrow things down to something you'd like. If you'd like to discuss anything privately you can PM me too!
I'm good for writing (letters, blog posts, whatever), and for data entry or anything else that can be done piecework style. If it exists, I'd like to work for an organization trying to implement universal healthcare at the state level. I'm in California, so that's a start, but a national-level effort is probably more needed. It's going to take decades of changing people's minds.

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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Colonel Corazon posted:

Do you have any articles/reading you'd recommend on the subject? I plan to check out Chorley's as you said. I know people having the peaceful versus violent protest argument and I've not been able to muster much of an argument for peaceful protesting, especially since everyone on both sides are fuckin pissed atm. I'd rather learn and be able to make educated points before I open my dumb mouth. I've never really considered the idea that a "peaceful" protest isn't totally that, but it makes sense. Numbers and presence means force.

I don't really have too many articles about it. I think people should do whatever they feel comfortable with, and they better not snitch either way. Cities only have so many police, and white folks getting arrested for civil disobedience in whatever neighborhoods helps divert police from marginalized communities of color. If you're at low risk for arrest (i.e.: no warrant) you can help keep other people out of jail elsewhere in your community.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO has issued a correction as of 17:59 on Nov 11, 2016

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

exquisite tea posted:

Does anyone know of some other organizations that perform humanitarian work overseas/domestically besides Peace Corps, ideally one that I could also do with my spouse? This election has made me rethink what's really important and we want to spend the next few years away from nonprofit development and more in helping people directly.

as someone who was this close to doing peace corps out of college i have to say i don't recommend it. the two-year period is better than the one month or whatever poverty tourists do but ultimately you're leaving, rarely if never to return. the peace corps is bad for all the same reasons teach for america is bad: it's america attempting to "fix with the right hand what it destroyed with the left."

i'd say now is the time to get active in your communities here. god knows people are gonna need support structures these next few years

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
As someone who has been disgusted by politics my whole life and felt like my involvement didn't matter I'm glad to feel motivated to do something, with my voice, my vote and what money I can spare. I have alot to learn about activism.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
Oh yeah here are some more things you might want to know:

1. Water makes pepper spray worse. Use milk or liquid antacid and water*. Don't wear contacts. Johnson and Johnson baby shampoo is also what PD trainees use when going through tear gas training, FYI.
2. If you get tear gassed, when you get home, put the contaminated clothes in a plastic bag for later decontamination and shower with cold water to avoid opening your pores.
3. Come with friends and don't get separated. Avoid leaving the crowd and watch out for police snatch squads.
4. Beware undercovers, but beware snitchjacketing and collaborator 'peace police' even more.
5. Those who would prefer to see you quiet, docile, and at home are very good at combing through pictures and doxxing people. Mask up, alter your appearance.
6. Document, document, document.
Please don't share this status. Copy paste it without attribution.
*liquid antacid can scratch corneas. It's ok in a pinch, but milk is better.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

an expanded version of that already good list

quote:

Bro, We Are communist. Problem? Protesting 101:

1. Water makes pepper spray worse. Use milk or liquid antacid and water. Don't wear contacts. Keep a water bottle of diluted maalox to flush out the eyes of those affected by pepper spray and tear gas

2. If you get tear gassed, when you get home, put the contaminated clothes in a plastic bag for later decontamination and shower with cold water to avoid opening your pores.

3. Come with friends and don't get separated. Avoid leaving the crowd and watch out for police snatch squads.

4. Beware undercovers, but beware snitchjacketing and collaborator 'peace police' just as much.

5. The far right is very good at combing through pictures and doxxing people. So is the state. Consider masking up if you're worried about your identity being made public. Be prepared for police to target you if you do mask up, however.

6. Write any necessary phone numbers you may need directly on your skin in sharpie. Memorize important phone numbers just in case you are arrested/have your phone confiscated/destroyed.

7. Have an offsite plan for emergencies if you have not been heard from by X time coordinated with someone offsite.

8. Make sure all mobile devices are charged!! Bring backup batteries.

9. If you plan on going to jail, plan it: bail, lawyer, time off from work, witnesses i.e.: a cadre. Don't just go to jail without training.

10. Beware folks inciting violence. Many of them are police/ feds. Watch out for hook ups for the same reason. Get to know the crowd. They will set you up.

11. Most local police now use Stingray fake cell-phone towers which turn off your phone's encryption and hoover up all your data. If you have an Android phone, Android IMSI-Catcher Detector may work, it may not. Expect to have all your social media/private messages/cell phone data compromised. Communicate plans in person with people you trust. Do not post or have any incriminating information which can be used against you.

12. Police will use all manner of crowd control and incitement to give themselves the excuse to crack down, including using undercover cops or associated agent provocateurs, but also directing protesters onto certain streets and bridges. Don't let the police or unknown people incite you to violence, but also don't allow yourself to be directed by the police unless absolutely necessary.

13. The media will also look for instances of violence and ultaleft radical rhetoric to use in propaganda against the protesters and for "law and order." Be careful about what you say to cameras, be careful about media tricking you or catching you off-guard.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Homework Explainer posted:

as someone who was this close to doing peace corps out of college i have to say i don't recommend it. the two-year period is better than the one month or whatever poverty tourists do but ultimately you're leaving, rarely if never to return. the peace corps is bad for all the same reasons teach for america is bad: it's america attempting to "fix with the right hand what it destroyed with the left."

i'd say now is the time to get active in your communities here. god knows people are gonna need support structures these next few years

Yeah, I totally understand all the criticisms around peace corps from people and personal friends of mine who have done it themselves, but the humanitarian aspect has always been important to me and I've realized that I could use a dramatic change in priorities right now. Whether that takes me overseas or right here.

Like most people on the left I'm a little bit shaken by recent events and I'm just trying to figure out the best way to be of use to others right now.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Thank you for this thread

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Homework Explainer posted:

an expanded version of that already good list

The Stalinist is right.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Well What Now posted:

The Stalinist is right.

whose rereg are you

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I'm going to call a meeting with all my students next week to talk out what's going on and hopefully get our local Rep in on that conversation. We live in a blue state and should be writing to our congressmen to actively resist whatever regressive policies are going to be spewing out of the fed these next four years. We don't have to listen, we don't have to just lie down and take what Trump says. We should honestly be taking a page from the GOP handbook on this one and making every step to delay + ignore federal policies within our own state, while running progressive candidates at every level.

While we can't change the picture nationally for at least another two years, it gave me great peace of mind today to remember that oh yeah, we don't have to obey any of this poo poo, and whatever the consequences of that may be, none of us should be lying down and taking it.

PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Homework Explainer posted:

whose rereg are you

i was assuming Who What Now but apparently he's not banned ????

Qwazes
Sep 29, 2014
Fun Shoe
I walked in a protest today but it was only about 500 college students in the most liberal part of rural massachusetts so I don't think it really counts

one old lady pulled over and yelled that we were all babies so that was fun

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Qwazes posted:

I walked in a protest today but it was only about 500 college students in the most liberal part of rural massachusetts so I don't think it really counts

one old lady pulled over and yelled that we were all babies so that was fun

it absolutely counts. keep it up

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

exquisite tea posted:

Yeah, I totally understand all the criticisms around peace corps from people and personal friends of mine who have done it themselves, but the humanitarian aspect has always been important to me and I've realized that I could use a dramatic change in priorities right now. Whether that takes me overseas or right here.

Like most people on the left I'm a little bit shaken by recent events and I'm just trying to figure out the best way to be of use to others right now.

A common refrain from people in Latin America who have created cooperative communities, and are visited by American socialists - is that the Americans should go home and improve things here, so that they don't have to worry about America making things worse there. The immediate concern is to batten down the hatches, and prepare for the Trump storm that's about to hit society.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


That's a very good point, and in the immediate term I'm going to do whatever I can to help the very vulnerable populations that I serve here. There's a lot that can and should be done to ensure that we withstand the next four years, at least at the local level. We don't have to accept whatever policies are coming out of Washington if we can help it.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


i contacted the ok democratic party chairman and left him a voice message asking him to support bernie sanders. he'll probably do it though, our state voted for bernie sanders, and he was pro-bernie during the primary

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Condiv posted:

i contacted the ok democratic party chairman and left him a voice message asking him to support bernie sanders. he'll probably do it though, our state voted for bernie sanders, and he was pro-bernie during the primary

I'm a fellow OK goon and I'm trying to find local stuff to get involved with but man the OK Democratic Party is grim.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
police in ny telling protesters there are too many of them and they have to split their march in half

If there was ever a time you thought you might want to get into the street.

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Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

I'm a fellow OK goon and I'm trying to find local stuff to get involved with but man the OK Democratic Party is grim.

yeah i'm gonna try to volunteer, but since i'm an emigrant i don't know how much I can do. maybe they need some programming done or something.

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib

Homework Explainer posted:

12. Police will use all manner of crowd control and incitement to give themselves the excuse to crack down, including using undercover cops or associated agent provocateurs, but also directing protesters onto certain streets and bridges. Don't let the police or unknown people incite you to violence, but also don't allow yourself to be directed by the police unless absolutely necessary.

Haha, this definitely happened in the first NYC protest. People would randomly appear and cheer everyone into marching this way or that, usually away from the crowd. Some guy would climb a street lamp and start waving while 2-3 nearby would join in, and suddenly everyone would start marching.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
I'm still kicking myself for not attending the protest that happened in Denver.

Brogeoisie
Jan 12, 2005

"Look, I'm a private citizen," he said. "One thing that I don't have to do is sit here and open my kimono as it relates to how much money I make or didn't."

Star Man posted:

I'm still kicking myself for not attending the protest that happened in Denver.

There's going to be a lot more, go to the next one and bring everyone you know. The more people protest the better

Man Whore
Jan 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT SPHERICAL CATS
=3



Who do I talk to to get the democrats to start giving a poo poo about the rust belt and its unions again?
southern Ohio is where I live if that matters.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Man Whore posted:

Who do I talk to to get the democrats to start giving a poo poo about the rust belt and its unions again?
southern Ohio is where I live if that matters.

I think your local Democratic Party chapters and groups will be fairly amenable right now.

G.C. Furr III
Mar 30, 2016



Well What Now posted:

I think your local Democratic Party chapters and groups will be fairly amenable right now.

*coke snorts out nose at the thought of anyone seriously thinking that the democrat party is somewhere to go to organise real change in amerikkka*

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

G.C. Furr III posted:

*coke snorts out nose at the thought of anyone seriously thinking that the democrat party is somewhere to go to organise real change in amerikkka*

well best of luck to your plan then, I'll certainly feel really drat dumb when you win

Panic Restaurant
Jul 19, 2006

:retrogames: :3: :retrogames:



Pork Pro
What's the best way to donate time and money if I'm freaking the gently caress out about the environment, in particular? I already donated to Audubon as birds are especially near and dear to my heart, and I plan to donate something every paycheck that I can afford to. Just not sure where else to go from there, other than having constant panic attacks, I suppose.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Panic Restaurant posted:

What's the best way to donate time and money if I'm freaking the gently caress out about the environment, in particular? I already donated to Audubon as birds are especially near and dear to my heart, and I plan to donate something every paycheck that I can afford to. Just not sure where else to go from there, other than having constant panic attacks, I suppose.

Buy a gun and join the ELF

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Elves are not real and I don't think they use guns.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Panic Restaurant posted:

What's the best way to donate time and money if I'm freaking the gently caress out about the environment, in particular? I already donated to Audubon as birds are especially near and dear to my heart, and I plan to donate something every paycheck that I can afford to. Just not sure where else to go from there, other than having constant panic attacks, I suppose.

Please don't donate to animal groups when there will be people suffering

Hellsworn Barn
Apr 11, 2008

hi

theflyingexecutive posted:

Please don't donate to animal groups when there will be people suffering

Please don't do this. Shaming people for their choices does not encourage involvement.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Hellsworn Barn posted:

Please don't do this. Shaming people for their choices does not encourage involvement.

I'm not going to have the same response if you choose RAINN over PP or anything, I just can't stand fuckin tone deaf "activism" that very much shows the person has had no grounding or trouble in life that would direct them to a real charity and not a five yo's version of one

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy
donate to charities that support homeless lgbt teens

donate to charities that support syrian refugees and muslim and sikh victims of gate crimes

donate to charities that rescue cute lil calves and sheeps from factory farms

it's not a one or the other false dichotomy thing, why not donate as much as you can to as many things as you can. Worshipping Mammon is Trumpism. Helping anything or anyone that is suffering is the other option.

Colonel Corazon
Feb 12, 2011

A faction armed to the teeth hardly seems friendly to me.

I'll do a big update to the OP and hopefully have some leads for the folks who've reached out to me by tomorrow. I've been focusing on education and healthcare initiatives this weekend so if you know a group you're personally involved with or know about feel free to post what you know and your experiences.

Chicken in Black
May 22, 2005

So lovely

Panic Restaurant posted:

What's the best way to donate time and money if I'm freaking the gently caress out about the environment, in particular? I already donated to Audubon as birds are especially near and dear to my heart, and I plan to donate something every paycheck that I can afford to. Just not sure where else to go from there, other than having constant panic attacks, I suppose.


"Wild beasts and birds are by right not the property merely of the people today, but the property of the unborn generations, whose belongings we have no right to squander." ~Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States

I love birds, too. I can completely understand wanting to help them, and it is as real an activism as any other.

You can join in on things like Cornell University and the Audubon society bird counts, which doesn't seem like much but is very important. Contact you local and state lawmakers so they know where you stand. Go to local council meetings when they are doing things that impact wildlife, speak up, and if possible vote on issues.

Purchasing Federal Duck Stamps helps preserve wetlands. The US Fish and Wildlifr service, and your state conservation department can also be spot to get information.


http://www.partnersinflight.org
https://abcbirds.org
http://www.nature.org
http://www.endangered.org

https://www.fws.gov

Chicken in Black has issued a correction as of 04:04 on Nov 14, 2016

Jenner
Jun 5, 2011
Lowtax banned me because he thought I was trolling by acting really stupid. I wasn't acting.
The single most important thing any of you can do is to start voting. Get your friends to vote, your family, your coworkers, everyone you know, everyone who will listen. Stop needing to be inspired, vote! Vote in EVERY election! Boring local elections are super important. Your county representatives actions are the ones that most effect you.

These people are the ones that draw the district lines. They are the ones that make gerrymandering happen. Your vote matters the most in these small, local elections and have lasting effects and influence on the higher branches of government.

And it can really make a difference.

My old home town had an election in the Board of Education, a beloved teacher and school counselor was in the running. A bunch of her former students rallied and voted for her. She won by 117 votes. She cut both the coaches and the administrator's paychecks and used that money to increase teacher's salaries and hire more teachers bringing the student to teacher ratio down from 37 to 1 to 21 to 1. Grades increased as students were able to get more individual attention. The school Rating improved, people started to move into the town for the school. Revenue increased. :iia:

Get off your asses and get out and vote.

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette

Jenner posted:

The single most important thing any of you can do is to start voting. Get your friends to vote, your family, your coworkers, everyone you know, everyone who will listen. Stop needing to be inspired, vote! Vote in EVERY election! Boring local elections are super important. Your county representatives actions are the ones that most effect you.

These people are the ones that draw the district lines. They are the ones that make gerrymandering happen. Your vote matters the most in these small, local elections and have lasting effects and influence on the higher branches of government.

And it can really make a difference.

My old home town had an election in the Board of Education, a beloved teacher and school counselor was in the running. A bunch of her former students rallied and voted for her. She won by 117 votes. She cut both the coaches and the administrator's paychecks and used that money to increase teacher's salaries and hire more teachers bringing the student to teacher ratio down from 37 to 1 to 21 to 1. Grades increased as students were able to get more individual attention. The school Rating improved, people started to move into the town for the school. Revenue increased. :iia:

Get off your asses and get out and vote.

how do you find out about local stuff?

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

For school boards especially: search [city/county] christian voter's guide and vote the opposite way. :devil:

platzapS has issued a correction as of 01:20 on Nov 15, 2016

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Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Jenner posted:

The single most important thing any of you can do is to start voting.

This works best when there are good things to vote for. So way, way near the top of the list is infiltrating whatever political groups are setting the agenda or influencing the agenda in your area and making sure there are candidates and things worth voting for.

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