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FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Cam won MVP last year and basically destroyed the NFL.

He's struggling this year because referees are letting defenses tee off on his head because they don't treat him like other quarterbacks, and half his offense has gotten injured/fallen off a cliff.

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FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Trubisky owns and I wish better for him than the Browns.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Todd mcshay doing Todd mcshay things and mocking fournette to Carolina in the first round.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







A white guy with deceptive speed, toughness, a high football iq who can create matchup problems all over the field.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

But who did he vote for?


haha as if there's any question

He's a white millennial from Stanford so he probably just posted some pro hillary hash tags on twitter and didn't get out of bed.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Lol somehow they're going to trade one of their firsts to move up to first overall to draft trubisky.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







yep

quote:

The New York Daily News reports the Jets are "all over" North Carolina QB Mitch Trubisky, who is expected to declare for the 2017 NFL draft.

A fourth-year junior who started only one year for the Tar Heels, Trubisky threw for 28 touchdowns and only four interceptions in the 2016 regular season, leading UNC to a December 30 Sun Bowl date with Stanford. "The Jets are all over this kid," said a rival scout. "All over him. They'll probably deny it if you ask, but they love that kid. That's their guy. They're not going to get him though, because I think that kid is going to get over-drafted." The Jets are expected to have a top-six pick, but not in the top three, where Trubisky may ultimately go if he shines in the Sun Bowl and when NFL coaches begin grinding college tape.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Relentlessboredomm posted:

My dream for the Browns is that they sign Tyrod Taylor and then draft an o-lineman along with Fournette or Dalvin Cook and then proceed to have Hue develop the dopest run based offense in the league.

nah sorry you're going to be seeing Fournette in carolina blue in your nightmares for the next four years.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







oh poo poo

he's lucky she didn't die hitting that table.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







He almost murdered a girl and there's film of him doing it.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







To me Trubisky screams the guy who will never be good enough to win a playoff game but will always be better than your alternatives.

So like Kirk Cousins

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Mister Cobble imo

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

Ha ha oh man, that really hits the nail on the head for dudes like Mallett and Osweiler. Why are NFL front offices so enamored with arm size and height when it's obvious accuracy and decision making are so much more important. They all seem to think after some kid has spent 15 years since peewee launching the football into orbit against garbage defenses that their staff will be the one to hone him into a precision weapon.

Prior to the neutering of defenses in the early 2000s, you couldn't have these accurate little midgets playing QB. First off, the receivers couldn't get off the line and be open. Secondly, they hadn't figured out how to commit offensive pass interference run effective screen routes. Also, you could still hit QBs, so smaller ones would get absolutely murdered. Lastly, you couldn't throw over the middle of the field at all, because the receivers would just get annihilated. That's why giant pass catching tight ends like Wesley Walls were so valuable; they couldn't run, but they could take a hit. The only routes that mattered were sideline post routes.

So basically the only QB you could have was a giant mountain of a human who could throw it deep and not die when hit. This was the prototype for every single QB, and things like speed of release loving didn't matter at all. See someone like Kerry Collins, who would probably be a third round draft pick today with the way he wind mill'd the ball out.

Almost all of the guys in charge of NFL teams now came up during that era, and it's a difficult impulse to shake. Compounding this is the failure of numerous smaller, "accurate" types who were really just products of gimmick college offenses like Ted Tedford QBs. Brees is the perfect embodiment of all of this. He was serviceable when he was first drafted, then nearly had his career ended. If they hadn't made it impossible for defenses to press receivers, or let defenders hit QBs, Brees career would have ended in a couple seasons for good. Then the passing rules changes, he gets with a creative coach, the league decides hitting white QBs is illegal, and boom he goes nuts.

I mean poo poo Tom Brady has developed into whatever but when he was drafted he was just a tall, slow white guy with a good enough arm who was on the same level as Tim Rattay.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Drew Brees is really the exception.

Wilsons three year stretch is possibly it for him. The injuries are just going to continue to take his toll, and he's going to have difficulty transitioning his playing style, especially considering the defense is going to begin a decline and his offensive line is uh....yeah.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Doltos posted:

Probably Leonard Fournette's knee.

I thought he was an ankle.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Fox got Stewart drafted with deangelo on the roster just an FYI

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Porn on VHS posted:

why is running upright considered good.. dont you expose yourself to more hits that way?

It's more a comment on their ability and style.

Upright or not, how many NFL players could take on Adrian Peterson?

It's only a concern when you're clearly not good enough to get away with it in the NFL.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO MITCH TRUBISKY

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







lol

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Trubisky ended the game yesterday throwing like six gorgeous touchdown passes and five of them were dropped.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Cam doesn't get past Carolina.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Doltos posted:

Top ten looks like:

1. Cleveland Browns
2. San Francisco 49ers
3. Jacksonville Jaguars
4. Chicago Bears
5. Los Angeles Rams
6. San Diego Chargers
7. New York Jets
8. Carolina Panthers
9. Cincinatti Bengals
10. Philadelphia Eagles

If Cam's as good as I think he is, and I don't usually anoint prospects this early, I could see him just going to the Browns first overall.

Rams picks is the titans'

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







DNS posted:

Yeah he really broke the league with those multiple sack-fumbles in the biggest football game in the known universe. That's like saying Vick "basically destroyed the NFL" in 2010. Cam had a single good season (in which he literally only had ONE good game before Week 9) against the weakest slate of defenses in the league and then dutifully resumed his rightful role as the worst QB in a dumpster division.

lol quoting a post from 2 months

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







https://twitter.com/JoshNorris/status/816009857388032000

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Taco.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Hey remember when Pryor was suspended to start his career because while in college he traded his signature for tattoos?

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Diva Cupcake posted:

So i guess this is where I reiterate that Im on the Deshaun Watson train.

I don't think he can survive in the NFL.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







I would like the Panthers to trade down because I think they're in a pretty good spot for it but Dave falls in love with players and if his dude is there he pounces :smith:

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







zimbomonkey posted:

Edit: And i'm not sure the assessment that "he falls in love" is fair since he's had only one season since he's been here where he's had a top 20 pick and he used it on the consensus top player at a position of need in the draft (star). I'm sure the offers on the playoff level draft picks were less than stellar.

He's taken luxury picks the last two first rounds.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







wandler20 posted:

What DT will it be this year?

Wait and see who blows up the SPARQ test.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







zimbomonkey posted:

You say luxury, I say insurance against two players that might leave.

And again, we've never seen him with a top 10 pick that actually has value.

You don't need a high draft pick to trade down; the Patriots have proven this for 15 years.

When the Panthers drafted Butler, they still had short and star under team control for two seasons.

I mean I guess you can say that Davis could die at any second, but the Panthers still had him, plus plenty of good depth at the position.

I'm not blaming him for not drafting a safety, and I kinda understand why he though the offensive line was okay, and he couldn't have anticipated kelvin would be fat as hell.

But if the choice is trading down and getting SOMETHING, anything, or drafting players taht don't significantly contribute and become depth, well, that's an easy choice.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







I can't really speculate on possible trade scenarios. The Panthers have the entire local press on lock, and they don't really do their negotiating through the press like oh I dunno Dallas, so we don't know what was and wasn't offered.

My main point is Gettleman is pretty outspoken about taking whomever the best SPARQ athletes are no matter what.

Maybe the collapse this year doesn't happen if they hadn't spent their last two first rounders on depth at their strongest positions.

Now again maybe it's unfair because Vernon got turf toe, and maybe Davis is just a strong breeze away from collapse. But maaaaaaaaan this would be a better team with Landon Collins and oh I dunno, Hunter Henry.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







nah gettleman loved Shaq because he's an athletic freak who can play 3 or 4 positions.

Apparently his SPARQ was average though so uh never mind

https://twitter.com/JoshNorris/status/580836065914785793

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Safety.

Please safety.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Ches Neckbeard posted:

I meant that the OT's were bad in 2015 and if I'm not mistaken Gettleman still extended them despite it.

He extended Oher to a reasonable contract after he performed very well in run blocking.

Can't really blame gettleman that ohers brain won't stop bleeding.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Remmers was at no point serviceable btw

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







the best prospect this year is a 1 year starter from a basketball school that lost to nc god drat loving state and lovely duke

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







lol Notre Dame QBs

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







zimbomonkey posted:

And I still have no idea where to put benjamin.

Soon to be out of the league from fatness.

John Brown posted:

He must've stopped giving a poo poo because I can do that much and I'm out of shape as gently caress.

A good bench is very anatomically unforgiving in a way that squats and deadlifts aren't.

Some people just don't have the shoulders for it.

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FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







I will burn this fucker down if the panthers draft fournette

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