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And the winner is:
This poll is closed.
Magnus +2 or More 11 32.35%
Magnus +1 8 23.53%
Magnus in Tie-breaks 4 11.76%
Karjakin in Tie-breaks 0 0%
Karjakin +1 1 2.94%
Nuclear War 10 29.41%
Total: 34 votes
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TheRat
Aug 30, 2006



Hand Knit posted:

What reasons did they give for this? Does black have that much play up the middle?

I apologise, I really don't understand enough to give a informed opinion here, but they were definitely talking about black exploiting the middle.

E: The onscreen computer briefly jumped to 18% Carlsen before going back to 11-11 when Karjakin made the move.

TheRat fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Nov 15, 2016

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Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009



I really like Svidler but ChessNetwork's stream on twitch seems nicer.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

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Josh Lyman posted:

I really like Svidler but ChessNetwork's stream on twitch seems nicer.
Yeah it's really annoying that Chess 24 can't sort out how to have a permanent board state up

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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TheRat posted:

I apologise, I really don't understand enough to give a informed opinion here, but they were definitely talking about black exploiting the middle.

Nah, that's cool. I can sorta see how white's bishop on a2 is stuffed, and black has good pressure on e4 while white's knights have hosed off.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

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I don't really like bishop x h6 as a white player just aesthetically it seems off and concedes the center, but karjakin doesn't need my take on the matter lol

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

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Magnus's knight placement is so good

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

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Haha Jesus Hansen's face on that bishop c4

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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Karjakin trades on c4 and accepts a terminal weakness on b2. That is... risky.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006



Norwegian TV again saying Karjakin made a bad move in Bxc4, they are saying he must have missed something and have just given up his bishops

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

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The c4 move is terrible

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006



"This is the saddest white position in a WC-game in a decade" -Jon Ludvig Hammer

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009


Yea, don't wanna call it early, buuuut....Bc4 lol

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Jan 31, 2007

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TheRat posted:

"This is the saddest white position in a WC-game in a decade" -Jon Ludvig Hammer
lmao

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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TheRat posted:

"This is the saddest white position in a WC-game in a decade" -Jon Ludvig Hammer

ouch

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006



Jon Ludvig Hammer is very critical. "I think the entire strategy of team Karjakin is just ...".

V for Vegas
Aug 31, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Carlen's best friend caught out in smack talk shock!

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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Karjakin's minor pieces are kind of awful right now.

King Pawn
Apr 24, 2010


Karjakin is certainly living up to his reputation as a great defender.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

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Man Karjakin is probably going to recover another draw from a difficult position this is fascinating

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

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Once he gets into the computer moves (open board) he really makes hardly any inaccuracies

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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straight up brolic posted:

Man Karjakin is probably going to recover another draw from a difficult position this is fascinating

He just has to do this for eight more games without slipping up.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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Karjakin's gonna have to do some work to convince me that the h4 he just played isn't horrible. I guess Kh5 is met with Be7, but in principle it seems like he's just making holes.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

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Hand Knit posted:

Karjakin's gonna have to do some work to convince me that the h4 he just played isn't horrible. I guess Kh5 is met with Be7, but in principle it seems like he's just making holes.
I agreed with the GMs assessments. It's not a blunder, but it's too early. Not necessary and it doesn't help

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009



Why did carlsen trade off his rook?

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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notaspy posted:

Why did carlsen trade off his rook?

It was Karjakin's only decent piece, and Karjakin could have used it to engineer an opposite-coloured bishop endgame.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009



Hand Knit posted:

It was Karjakin's only decent piece, and Karjakin could have used it to engineer an opposite-coloured bishop endgame.

Thanks man, this is my first time watching chess

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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notaspy posted:

Thanks man, this is my first time watching chess

we are all friends in chess thread

e: burning lawrence trent out of nowhere, always welcome

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013





Is every game in this series going to be Karjakin putting himself behind and clawing his way to a draw*

*I didn't catch any of g2 so maybe it was different

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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Elyv posted:

Is every game in this series going to be Karjakin putting himself behind and clawing his way to a draw*

*I didn't catch any of g2 so maybe it was different

Probably. It's a mix of style and strategy. Carlsen likes to play for these long drawn out grinding games, whereas Karjakin's calling card is his defensive play. At the same time, one of Carlsen's big advantages is much better physical fitness, so he's probably going to make every game as long and torturous as possible, with the idea that Karjakin will run out of gas (if not in the current game, then in a later one) before he does.

V for Vegas
Aug 31, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

OK I'm not begrudging them the 2 day rest day now.

voodoo dog
Jun 6, 2001



Gun Saliva

drat, it's 1 am and I should be going to bed.. But this is just too exciting. :(

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

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almost certainly a draw

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009


straight up brolic posted:

almost certainly a draw

No way. This bishop sac setup is gonna be sick. It will be a miracle if Karjakin can stop the a pawn while simultaneously holding the 2v1 on the other side

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009


ok that was not the bishop sac I was talking about lol :suspense:

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

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AnacondaHL posted:

No way. This bishop sac setup is gonna be sick. It will be a miracle if Karjakin can stop the a pawn while simultaneously holding the 2v1 on the other side
can't karjakin just endlessly shuffle his pieces

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006



Whats happening the computer is having an epileptic fit I don't understand anything

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012



I'm not good at chess, and I don't understand what's happening beyond "Karjakin is holding on for a draw" and "Carlsen is going balls deep with his Bishops".

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

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"I think the next move will be Ka1, so that Magnus can say in his press conference 'At least I played Ka1 as black'."

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006



"The computers don't understand what's going on" -Jon Ludvig Hammer

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voodoo dog
Jun 6, 2001



Gun Saliva

It does look like a draw... Oh well. Going to bed. ;)

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