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Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

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Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
I was watching the youtube, but the parts removed out of the youtube filled me with existential dread

http://fmovies.to/film/hypernormalisation.2ozv4/nprx6l

This copy doesn't have any cuts ^^

Cuts were due to copy right and such..

A Big Fuckin Hornet
Nov 1, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
adam curtis is extremely good

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
adam curtis is my spirit animal

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKl6WjfDqYA

Slow-Scan Shep
Jul 11, 2001

Baloogan posted:

I was watching the youtube, but the parts removed out of the youtube filled me with existential dread

http://fmovies.to/film/hypernormalisation.2ozv4/nprx6l

This copy doesn't have any cuts ^^

Cuts were due to copy right and such..
is it bad that i thought those jump cuts were an artistic choice

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

FabioClone posted:

It's easy to make fun of this, but if you can believe in it there is a chance it will give you reality-warping superpowers.

I'm already white, thanks.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bixgOtkLao

Slow-Scan Shep
Jul 11, 2001

"bad thing happen! but then that means GOOD thing will happen"

Excalipur
Jul 2, 2003
You make me throw up a little.
Adam Curtis owns just because he sifts through an amazing amount of material that would never be seen without him.

"Goodwin spends weeks with a bank of six laptops and six tape machines collecting it all – and then brings it back and gives it to Curtis in plastic lunch boxes full of small computer drives. “So for example I have everything the BBC has ever shot for 60 years in Russia sitting on 58 terabytes of drives,” he says. “Phil is doing China next. Then Egypt. Vietnam. And then we are doing Africa. I aim eventually to have the last 50 years of unedited material. I could do an emotional history of the world.”

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

Quantum Politics: Memeing as Viking Incantation

Schrodinger's cat is a horrible analogy. Why? Because everyone has heard about it, and yet very few people are panicked about it.


Page from Robert Anton Wilson's Quantum Psychology.

There's something inherently flawed in S's cat. Maybe the 'tweeness' of the whole thing offsets its radical implications. The cat is dead and alive? Science is weeiirrd, haha, idgi.

Perhaps this visual example of Bell's theorum, where Professor Jim Al-Khalil engages in a card battle with an Quantum Satan, is more illuminating:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voUi8RtmVRw&t=2496s

The whole doc is worth watching, but that part in particular begins to tease out the stunning reality of our holographic universe:

On a quantum level, things do not exist until they are observed.

It's like playing a game of GTA. Everything not in the player's "field of vision" isn't "there". It just exists as probabilities in the game's code.

That should cause you to ask something like, "Wait, are you saying that... I don't know, the moon doesn't exist unless someone is looking at it?"

Yup. That's exactly what Dr. N. David Mermin of Columbia University postulated in his paper "Is the Moon There When Nobody Looks?" Physics Today, April 1985. "The moon is demonstrably not there when nobody is looking," he writes. It disappears.

So what does this have to do with Donald Trump?

Well, as Wilson writes of Bell's Theorem, "The full weirdness of this will strike you when you remember that the classic type of non-local correlation previously claimed amoung humans consists of the 'magical' idea that if a shaman gets his hands on a lock of your hair, anything he does to that hair will have an affect on you." What Wilson is getting at is that old magick technologies, historically banned by the church--due to their desire to have a monopoly on reality programming--might actually have been a "primitive" version of advanced quantum physics. Yes, those shamans may have attributed the success of those technologies to the elemental spirits or what have you, but, if you're willing to look beyond your lifelong materialist brainwashing that says that all non-modern science was mere trickery, you might just learn that the pagans were actually on to something.

Advanced enough Magick is indistinguishable from science, right? Well, maybe it's time we revisit some of that ancient "magick" to rediscover what kind of science they were up to.

The Donald Trumpites certainly did. Just take a look at what this extremely attractive Russian-American blonde woman who I want to marry says about meme magick as "Viking Incantation":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qaTJAeD0-8&t=194s

You see, what if that stuff from The Secret wasn't so crazy after all? What if humans, using ancient technologies, actually can learn to affect things non-locally? To not just reveal entangled particles through observation, but to subconsciously determine their outcome, heads or tails?

To narrow it down further, what about you dear reader? Your reality-tunnel is the only one you can be sure of. If the moon doesn't exist until its observed, then what about other people? Do we only exist when observing each other? Maybe the moon, other people, schrodinger's cat, Donald Trump, the internet, this very sentence, maybe none of it exists until you specifically looked at it?

Perhaps you are unconsciously in command of your entire reality?

Ask yourself, how much attention did you pay to Donald Trump this cycle? Did you experience something of a dark thrill every time he won, came out on top? Did he provoke your emotions? Did you talk about him over and over, the possibility of him winning?

Could it be that maybe it wasn't just we, the American people, that willed Donald Trump into existence?

Maybe it's time you ask yourself:

Did I just make Donald Trump president?


No

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Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.
Prelude: John Constantine Explains Magic






Got it?


Fairies at the Bottom of the Garden: Wallowing in the Black Mud of Superstition


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZNrxn5niyg

You're bored at work, so you open up a netflix tab and start watching an episode of Neil DeG's Cosmos. That makes you even more bored, so you que up a random episode of your favorite podcast. To your shock, the host immediately starts on a rant about how terrible the new Cosmos is.

That's Synchronicity.

Causality working backwards. You got the idea to watch Cosmos from the podcast, a half hour before you'd even listened to it. Space-time as a flat circle. Tralfamadorians. Interstellar. Waves and radiation.

Or maybe, coincidence.

Synchronicity is like lucid dreaming, in that it's really loving weird, and in that it happens to everyone from time-to-time. "Selective attention," your scientific-establishment worshiping friends might say, but they don't know the half of it.

Because, like with lucid dreaming, you can also train yourself to make it happen all the time.

I've already lost some of you, maybe most, but perhaps you're one of the people that have been so shaken up by the fact that Donald loving Trump just became the loving president of the United States that you're willing to admit that the universe may be far weirder than the authority figures in your life ever allowed you to believe. Trust me when I say that losing your bearings is potentially the best thing that ever happened to you. Let go of your preconceived notions, take some peyote, and come out into the jungle to run with the wolves.


Step One: Think about Sychronicities


It's been known since the time of Jung that to activate whatever force is responsible for sychronicities, the most important step to activate it is simply to start investigating them.



Once you start walking down this road, you'll start seeing results. The Cosmic Coincidence Control Agents, as Dr. Lily (guy who did the isolation tank acid experiments (like in Stranger Things)) will start interfering in your life. It'll scare you.


Step Two: Engage With Information-Rich Sources Throughout Your Day

This logos, VALIS, Zebra, thing, whatever it is, seems to live within information. Since humans are themselves living information, this makes a certain degree of sense. So, basically, add as much information as you can into your day. Anything word-y is great. I find podcasts work well; Uhh Yeah Dude is a particularly good listen for tuning into strange cosmic vibrations.


Step Three: Don't Watch Porn or Do Opiates

Please don't ask me to explain why. I don't really know. A working theory is that these things just numb you to whatever frequency sychronicities work on. Perhaps that explains the proliferation of internet porn; "they" are trying to zone the population out so that we can no longer access the bicameral voice that could lead us out of Westworld.


Step Four: Read a Book By Candlelight Before Bed

Preferably something mystic. My suggestions would be
Cosmic Trigger I: The Final Secret of the Illuminanti by Robert Anton Wilson
The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick by pkd
The Fragile Absolute by Slavoj Žižek
but really, it can be anything non-fiction that deals in the etheral realm of ideas.


Step Five: Report Your Sychronicities ITT

Telling people about sychronicities is often like telling them about dreams; no one really cares and they're never as meaningful to others as they are to the person that experienced them. However, this thread is a mystics' safe-space, and I'd love to see how synchronistic weirdness is beginning to pile up in our fragmenting post-reality world.



So again,

Step One: Think about Sychronicities
Step Two: Engage With Information-Rich Sources Throughout Your Day
Step Three: Don't Watch Porn or Do Opiates
Step Four: Read a Book By Candlelight Before Bed
Step Five: Report Your Sychronicities ITT


Crazy? Sure. But then again,

FabioClone posted:

It's easy to make fun of this, but if you can believe in it there is a chance it will give you reality-warping superpowers.

So what have you got to lose?

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



I started reading your post and all the lights on this side of the store died so maybe you're onto something.

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Ahahah holy poo poo this thread

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Personal Providence. There is a certain climax in life, at which, notwithstanding all our freedom, and however much we may have denied all directing reason and goodness in the beautiful chaos of existence, we are once more in great danger of intellectual bondage, and have to face our hardest test. For now the thought of a personal Providence first presents itself before us with its most persuasive force, and has the best of advocates, apparentness, in its favour, now when it is obvious that all and everything that happens to us always turns out for the best. The life of every day and of every hour seems to be anxious for nothing else but always to prove this proposition anew; let it be what it will, bad or good weather, the loss of a friend, a sickness, a calumny, the non receipt of a letter, the spraining of one's foot, a glance into a shop window, a counter argument, the opening of a book, a dream, a deception: it shows itself immediately, or very soon afterwards, as something "not permitted to be absent," it is full of profound significance and utility precisely for us! Is there a more dangerous temptation to rid ourselves of the belief in the Gods of Epicurus, those careless, unknown Gods, and believe in some anxious and mean Divinity, who knows personally every little hair on our heads, and feels no disgust in rendering the most wretched services? Well I mean in spite of all this! we want to leave the Gods alone (and the serviceable genii likewise), and wish to content ourselves with the assumption that our own practical and theoretical skilfulness in explaining and suitably arranging events has now reached its highest point. We do not want either to think too highly of this dexterity of our wisdom, when the wonderful harmony which results from playing on our instrument sometimes surprises us too much: a harmony which sounds too well for us to dare to ascribe it to ourselves. In fact, now and then there is one who plays with us beloved Chance: he leads our hand occasionally, and even the all wisest Providence could not devise any finer music than that of which our foolish hand is then capable.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

Step Three: Don't Watch Porn or Do Opiates

Please don't ask me to explain why. I don't really know. A working theory is that these things just numb you to whatever frequency sychronicities work on. Perhaps that explains the proliferation of internet porn; "they" are trying to zone the population out so that we can no longer access the bicameral voice that could lead us out of Westworld.

it depends on the kind. anime porn untethers the imagination, allowing your chakras to align with the spirit world. this was how pol became so powerful

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Spooky. I took a dump 10 minutes ago and now I'm poo poo posting. Is it related?

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Zoq-Fot-Pik
Jun 27, 2008

Frungy!

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

Prelude: John Constantine Explains Magic






Got it?


Fairies at the Bottom of the Garden: Wallowing in the Black Mud of Superstition


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZNrxn5niyg

You're bored at work, so you open up a netflix tab and start watching an episode of Neil DeG's Cosmos. That makes you even more bored, so you que up a random episode of your favorite podcast. To your shock, the host immediately starts on a rant about how terrible the new Cosmos is.

That's Synchronicity.

Causality working backwards. You got the idea to watch Cosmos from the podcast, a half hour before you'd even listened to it. Space-time as a flat circle. Tralfamadorians. Interstellar. Waves and radiation.

Or maybe, coincidence.

Synchronicity is like lucid dreaming, in that it's really loving weird, and in that it happens to everyone from time-to-time. "Selective attention," your scientific-establishment worshiping friends might say, but they don't know the half of it.

Because, like with lucid dreaming, you can also train yourself to make it happen all the time.

I've already lost some of you, maybe most, but perhaps you're one of the people that have been so shaken up by the fact that Donald loving Trump just became the loving president of the United States that you're willing to admit that the universe may be far weirder than the authority figures in your life ever allowed you to believe. Trust me when I say that losing your bearings is potentially the best thing that ever happened to you. Let go of your preconceived notions, take some peyote, and come out into the jungle to run with the wolves.


Step One: Think about Sychronicities


It's been known since the time of Jung that to activate whatever force is responsible for sychronicities, the most important step to activate it is simply to start investigating them.



Once you start walking down this road, you'll start seeing results. The Cosmic Coincidence Control Agents, as Dr. Lily (guy who did the isolation tank acid experiments (like in Stranger Things)) will start interfering in your life. It'll scare you.


Step Two: Engage With Information-Rich Sources Throughout Your Day

This logos, VALIS, Zebra, thing, whatever it is, seems to live within information. Since humans are themselves living information, this makes a certain degree of sense. So, basically, add as much information as you can into your day. Anything word-y is great. I find podcasts work well; Uhh Yeah Dude is a particularly good listen for tuning into strange cosmic vibrations.


Step Three: Don't Watch Porn or Do Opiates

Please don't ask me to explain why. I don't really know. A working theory is that these things just numb you to whatever frequency sychronicities work on. Perhaps that explains the proliferation of internet porn; "they" are trying to zone the population out so that we can no longer access the bicameral voice that could lead us out of Westworld.


Step Four: Read a Book By Candlelight Before Bed

Preferably something mystic. My suggestions would be
Cosmic Trigger I: The Final Secret of the Illuminanti by Robert Anton Wilson
The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick by pkd
The Fragile Absolute by Slavoj Žižek
but really, it can be anything non-fiction that deals in the etheral realm of ideas.


Step Five: Report Your Sychronicities ITT

Telling people about sychronicities is often like telling them about dreams; no one really cares and they're never as meaningful to others as they are to the person that experienced them. However, this thread is a mystics' safe-space, and I'd love to see how synchronistic weirdness is beginning to pile up in our fragmenting post-reality world.



So again,

Step One: Think about Sychronicities
Step Two: Engage With Information-Rich Sources Throughout Your Day
Step Three: Don't Watch Porn or Do Opiates
Step Four: Read a Book By Candlelight Before Bed
Step Five: Report Your Sychronicities ITT


Crazy? Sure. But then again,


So what have you got to lose?

John DiFool
Aug 28, 2013

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

Prelude: John Constantine Explains Magic






Got it?


Fairies at the Bottom of the Garden: Wallowing in the Black Mud of Superstition


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZNrxn5niyg

You're bored at work, so you open up a netflix tab and start watching an episode of Neil DeG's Cosmos. That makes you even more bored, so you que up a random episode of your favorite podcast. To your shock, the host immediately starts on a rant about how terrible the new Cosmos is.

That's Synchronicity.

Causality working backwards. You got the idea to watch Cosmos from the podcast, a half hour before you'd even listened to it. Space-time as a flat circle. Tralfamadorians. Interstellar. Waves and radiation.

Or maybe, coincidence.

Synchronicity is like lucid dreaming, in that it's really loving weird, and in that it happens to everyone from time-to-time. "Selective attention," your scientific-establishment worshiping friends might say, but they don't know the half of it.

Because, like with lucid dreaming, you can also train yourself to make it happen all the time.

I've already lost some of you, maybe most, but perhaps you're one of the people that have been so shaken up by the fact that Donald loving Trump just became the loving president of the United States that you're willing to admit that the universe may be far weirder than the authority figures in your life ever allowed you to believe. Trust me when I say that losing your bearings is potentially the best thing that ever happened to you. Let go of your preconceived notions, take some peyote, and come out into the jungle to run with the wolves.


Step One: Think about Sychronicities


It's been known since the time of Jung that to activate whatever force is responsible for sychronicities, the most important step to activate it is simply to start investigating them.



Once you start walking down this road, you'll start seeing results. The Cosmic Coincidence Control Agents, as Dr. Lily (guy who did the isolation tank acid experiments (like in Stranger Things)) will start interfering in your life. It'll scare you.


Step Two: Engage With Information-Rich Sources Throughout Your Day

This logos, VALIS, Zebra, thing, whatever it is, seems to live within information. Since humans are themselves living information, this makes a certain degree of sense. So, basically, add as much information as you can into your day. Anything word-y is great. I find podcasts work well; Uhh Yeah Dude is a particularly good listen for tuning into strange cosmic vibrations.


Step Three: Don't Watch Porn or Do Opiates

Please don't ask me to explain why. I don't really know. A working theory is that these things just numb you to whatever frequency sychronicities work on. Perhaps that explains the proliferation of internet porn; "they" are trying to zone the population out so that we can no longer access the bicameral voice that could lead us out of Westworld.


Step Four: Read a Book By Candlelight Before Bed

Preferably something mystic. My suggestions would be
Cosmic Trigger I: The Final Secret of the Illuminanti by Robert Anton Wilson
The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick by pkd
The Fragile Absolute by Slavoj Žižek
but really, it can be anything non-fiction that deals in the etheral realm of ideas.


Step Five: Report Your Sychronicities ITT

Telling people about sychronicities is often like telling them about dreams; no one really cares and they're never as meaningful to others as they are to the person that experienced them. However, this thread is a mystics' safe-space, and I'd love to see how synchronistic weirdness is beginning to pile up in our fragmenting post-reality world.



So again,

Step One: Think about Sychronicities
Step Two: Engage With Information-Rich Sources Throughout Your Day
Step Three: Don't Watch Porn or Do Opiates
Step Four: Read a Book By Candlelight Before Bed
Step Five: Report Your Sychronicities ITT


Crazy? Sure. But then again,


So what have you got to lose?

you had me until the no porn part

Dairy Days
Dec 26, 2007

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

That should cause you to ask something like, "Wait, are you saying that... I don't know, the moon doesn't exist unless someone is looking at it?"

Yup. That's exactly what Dr. N. David Mermin of Columbia University postulated in his paper "Is the Moon There When Nobody Looks?" Physics Today, April 1985. "The moon is demonstrably not there when nobody is looking," he writes. It disappears.

consider that the sun and moon, in order for the moon to even be visible to a conscious human, must as quantum systems observe and be observed so that light from the sun can reflect from it and hit your idiot face, and so the moon and earth itself dont fly off into space and get owned, what im saying is all quantum systems observe quantum systems and there is not a requirement that one of the quantum systems be a human brain. maybe if donald trump was a cylinder of beryllium atoms in a vacuum chamber being pulsed by lasers and radio waves he could be quantum hacked by putin, not in this reality tunnel.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 246 days!
I find this compelling because it all seems more reasonable than millions of Americans deciding that Donald Trump would make a good President.

Bolton Hairy-Bore
Jul 31, 2013
everybody always knew it was impossible to imagine a future beyond neoliberalism. the left hopelessly pressed the brakes, and the radicals desperately pulled the emergency brake.

coming quick through the rear view mirror, the heartland subalterns blew it wide open. already seeking an exit through opiates, their Death Drive called for mass collective suicide. if they're to die, why shouldn't the others? the racists cried for escape by shooting through their neighbors.

they thought their suicide plan was a quick shotgun to society's head. but they were mistaken.

the neofascist regime means hermetically-sealed borders, mass public prisons and black-site prisons, concentration camps, armorized police, an alienation beyond our nightmares. the dreamers' deaths won't be collective, they will be alone. a slow suffocation. a plastic bag over the head.

the woke can now see the future plain as day. they know their's a choice: collective death or individual suffocation?

the woke know they're going to die. and nobody fights harder than a dead man walking.

CAROL
Oct 29, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
So after doing some research and reading some texts by Grant Morrison, I've come to the conclusion that all of this happened because 4chan masturbated to pictures of pepe.

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.
The Principia Discordia came up in the day crew/nightcrew thread, so I wanted to make brief mention of it here since that thread moves faster than lightning from Eros' choas vagina:

Flesh Forge posted:

Principia Discordia turned out to be an instruction manual

Some excerpts from an Interview with Malaclypse the Younger by THE GREATER METROPOLITAN YORBA LINDA HERALD-NEWS-SUN-TRIBUNE-JOURNAL-DISPATCH-POST AND SAN FRANCISCO DISCORDIAN SOCIETY CABAL BULLETIN AND INTERGALACTIC REPORT & POPE POOP 

=================================

GREATER POOP: Are you really serious or what? 
MAL-2: Sometimes I take humor seriously. Sometimes I take seriousness humorously. Either way it is irrelevant.

GP: Maybe you are just crazy. 
M2: Indeed! But do not reject these teaching as false because I am crazy. The reason that I am crazy is because they are true.

GP: Is Eris true? 
M2: Everything is true. 
GP: Even false things? 
M2: Even false things are true. 
GP: How can that be? 
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it.

GP: Why do you deal with so many negatives? 
M2: To dissolve them. 
GP: Will you develop that point? 
M2: No.

GP: Is there an essential meaning behind POEE? 
M2: There is a Zen Story about a student who asked a Master to explain the meaning of Buddhism. The Master's reply was "Three pounds of flax." 
GP: Is that the answer to my question? 
M2: No, of course not. That is just illustrative. The answer to your question is FIVE TONS OF FLAX!


Darkman Fanpage posted:

this religion seems like a good fit for me.

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

tragically it faded away because they could never quite figure out if they were a joke disguised as a religion or a religion disguised as a joke

Darkman Fanpage posted:

im okay with ambiguity.


Anyone else who is okaywith ambiguity or is interested in historical attempts to program reality owes it to themselves to give the principia a read:

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/downloads/Principia%20Discordia.pdf

The introductions are especially enlightening

quote:

If organized religion is the opium of the masses, then disorganized religion is the marijuana of the lunatic fringe. Most disorganized of all religions, Discordianism alone understands that organization is the work of the Devil. Holy Chaos is the Natural Condition of Reality, contrary to popular belief. Theologians cite Order in the Universe as proof of a Supreme Intelligence, but a glance is enough to see that the stars are not actually in neat little rows. (Oh, sure, there is the Big Dipper and the Little Dipper - but if they were really connect-the-dot drawings there would be numbers next to the stars.) Theology is just a debate over who to frame for creating reality. What we imagine is order is merely the prevailing form of chaos.

Every few thousand years some shepherd inhales smoke from a burning bush and has a vision or eats moldy rye bread in a cave and sees God. From then on their followers kill one another at the slightest provocation. Haunted houses called temples are built by one side and torn down by another - and then bloody quarrels continue over the crumbling foundations.

Organized religion preaches Order and Love but spawns Chaos and Fury. Why?

Because the whole Material Universe is exclusive property of the Greco-Roman Goddess of Chaos, Confusion, Strife, Helter-Skelter and Hodge-Podge. No Spiritual power is even strong enough to dent Her chariot fenders. No material force can resist the temptation of Her Fifth Intergalactic Bank of the Acropolis Slush Fund for Graft and Corruption.

The Discordians were forged in the watergate era, where the American populace at large learned what all fringe movements had known for centuries: that their government hated them and wanted them dead.

Made up of sci-fi writers and other bay-area lunatics, the Discordians understood something that everyone on these forms really, really needs to internalize:

The only viable weapon against tyranny in the modern age is Absurdity.


The people trying to organize against Trump via political means are doomed to failure. We must disorganize against Trump. The goal of the Discordians was to introduce enough absurdity into the cultural consciousness that people would begin to wake up to the fact that their reality was merely a concensus, a construction, just one amoung many possible iterations.

Just by winning, Trump has already made reality absurd. John Oliver is right about one thing: we can't let that be normalized. However, we can never let Hillary and her ilk be normalized again either. We must completely de-normalize all of history, so that we can build something completely new and never before seen.

Trumps Baby Hands has issued a correction as of 15:30 on Nov 18, 2016

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
im naked and horny

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Absurdism has been coopted into the right and the mainstream tho and it doesn't produce anything but self-satisfaction and complacency

Bolton Hairy-Bore
Jul 31, 2013
yep, absurdism isn't the weapon we're looking for.

see: surrealism. also: situationism and the counter-culture, coopted by capitalism and sold back to us

absurdism was a fine escape from reality, but some dreamers have awakened to what they see as an absurd reality

i propose collective sincerity to counter collective nihilism. counter the lies from above with the truth of our lives. find each other.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

The modern art movement was cia-funded as a propaganda tool against the USSR

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



if this is all true it's the most direct and honest expression of collective will possible with all the 'oh god i didn't ask for this' and the fear of facing your most base but sincere and quite likely repressed desires in the form of Trump and kek and maybe is a sign we're growing up

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





Tunicate posted:

The modern art movement was cia-funded as a propaganda tool against the USSR

it definitely was subsidized to show how much the west cares about freedom of speech & art, vs. the ussr

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Fargo Fukes posted:

If any of this stuff actually worked as true meme magic rather than regular symbology then surely we'd be seventy or so years deep into the thousand-year Reich by now? The swastika was and remains one of the most powerful symbols on earth, and at its height it motivated one of the largest cults of wild-eyed true-believers in history. And it wasn't defeated by a counter symbol, whether the starts-and-stripes or the hammer-and-sickle, but through the day by day movement of guns and butter and the slow work of heavy industry. If meme magic allows us to select and control our reality, why are so many cults of meme magicians defeated by boring old policework and uninspiring state bureaucracy?

All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away; all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life and his relations with his kind.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Fargo Fukes posted:

If any of this stuff actually worked as true meme magic rather than regular symbology then surely we'd be seventy or so years deep into the thousand-year Reich by now? The swastika was and remains one of the most powerful symbols on earth, and at its height it motivated one of the largest cults of wild-eyed true-believers in history. And it wasn't defeated by a counter symbol, whether the starts-and-stripes or the hammer-and-sickle, but through the day by day movement of guns and butter and the slow work of heavy industry. If meme magic allows us to select and control our reality, why are so many cults of meme magicians defeated by boring old policework and uninspiring state bureaucracy?

Both sides fought in the meme wars



And it absolutely was defeated by counter symbols. And the final act of the meme war was banning nazi memes from germany~

zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?
A much better place to view: https://thoughtmaybe.com/hypernormalisation/

The rest of his documentaries are there too.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
So who wants to break it to Dawkins that a throw-away thought experiment he did forty years ago morphed into a new religion that will probably outlive any other mentions or knowledge of him?

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
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https://twitter.com/NOT_NORMAL_BOT/status/799957756673290240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

RIP Syndrome
Feb 24, 2016

Baloogan posted:

Both sides fought in the meme wars



Even poor Donald got drafted.

Olga Gurlukovich
Nov 13, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKl6WjfDqYA

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bowser
Apr 7, 2007

Donald Trump will be President. This is what we need to do next

quote:

3. We need a story.

The core belief of the technocrats who run the Democratic Party is that people rationally evaluate facts and then make decisions.

In reality, humans all have an emotional, internally consistent story running inside them all the time about the world and their place in it – and if they encounter any “facts” that contradict this story, the facts just bounce right off. Ironically, this is demonstrated by how Democratic technocrats emotionally reject all the evidence for this.

Trump succeeds at telling a story – and while it’s hateful and bogus, any story always beats no story. Clinton never tried to tell a competing story, making her blizzard of facts meaningless to non-technocrats.

Part of Trump’s story was “Muslims are lunatics who want to slaughter your children, we can’t let them in!” Clinton would respond, “An intriguing Harvard School of Government study found our circa-2014 immigration vetting procedures were able to measure radicalization by five benchmarks that [audience loses consciousness].”

By contrast, a progressive story would say: “We’ve been bombing the Middle East for 60 years. People there are mad about it just like we were mad about 9/11. Until we stop bombing them a small number of Muslims will always want to retaliate, and some will pull it off no matter what we do to prevent it.”

That’s more complex than Trump’s story, but it’s superior because it’s true. If people internalize it, they can also understand facts about the world that would otherwise seem incomprehensible.

Here’s another possible progressive story:

“Capitalism was so cruel and brutal 100 years ago that people came up with an even worse solution, communism. Rather than make compromises that would take the wind out of communism’s sails, the 1 percent of the day decided to back fascism. This caused a war so catastrophic that the 1 percent understood they had no choice but to accept reforms that would make life bearable for regular people.

“Then communism collapsed, taking the daily threat of nuclear war with it. Today’s 1 percent should be thanking God they got out of the 20th century alive and vowing never to make those mistakes again. Instead they’ve decided to make every mistake again and turn capitalism back into something that human beings cannot live with. Here’s our plan to stop them.”

Again, that’s a lot more complicated than “build a wall.” But that’s reality for you.

Any successful progressive movement will have to come up with its own broad, true story of who we are and where we’re going.

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