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SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

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sorry, did not vote for chores I mean

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SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

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##vote chores seriously can we hang this scumbo already

Moatillata
Dec 13, 2006

Maintain.
:ghost: faaaaaaaaaaaaaart

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...
##vote vimes

lmao if we let scum win in an open role madness setup

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
2+1=3 not 4, that's a no lynch buddy, no matter what

here is some more math, I was jailed n3 + tobacco could not jail me because I was in jail = I am not the jailer or doing the nk.

there is no possible way tpink is not scum. it is possible, however unlikely, that chores is town and you are scum. if you fail to acknowledge this, I have to assume it is you and tpink and that's why you're unwilling to vote.

##vote tpink

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
tobacco was it actually you that jailed me last night? I expected you to have a lot more to say than that

tpink
Feb 18, 2013

Melman
lmao, I cannot loving believe we no-lynched. Way to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.

tpink
Feb 18, 2013

Melman
Tobaccy, what did you do last night?

tpink
Feb 18, 2013

Melman
Scum didn't kill me last night because I would have flipped town, thereby confirming that stick is scum. We should have voted stick yesterday, like I said.

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
how does anyone read this and not see that tpink is scum?

sure seems like you've been thinking a lot about which night kills would be best for scum. wonder why! here's a tip, next time you're scum, don't literally tell the thread how you plan your night kills

tpink
Feb 18, 2013

Melman

this is a stickup posted:

how does anyone read this and not see that tpink is scum?

sure seems like you've been thinking a lot about which night kills would be best for scum. wonder why! here's a tip, next time you're scum, don't literally tell the thread how you plan your night kills

Yeah, how weird that I'm trying to figure out why scum would target a night kill the way they did - it's almost like I am trying to play Mafia or something. VERY SUSPICIOUS. Are you for real?

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
actually it's more like you're trying to seem like you're a townie playing mafia by solving a night kill mystery. at lylo. which is very suspicious, you are correct.

night action mafia and a counterclaim have proved you are scum, but keep on "trying to play mafia" I guess.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

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tpink posted:

lmao, I cannot loving believe we no-lynched. Way to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.

I love it when people don't join in the vote then complain about no-lynching.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

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tpink posted:

Scum didn't kill me last night because I would have flipped town, thereby confirming that stick is scum. We should have voted stick yesterday, like I said.

Good lord this is stupid. They killed Moatillata because he is confirmed town and the main dispute in this game right now is whether you or stickup is scum, it was the obvious target regardless of which one of you it is.

tpink
Feb 18, 2013

Melman

SirSamVimes posted:

I love it when people don't join in the vote then complain about no-lynching.

What are you talking about? I voted stick.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

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tpink posted:

What are you talking about? I voted stick.

Why didn't you vote chores?

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

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You are either scum or really bad at this game.

tpink
Feb 18, 2013

Melman

SirSamVimes posted:

Good lord this is stupid. They killed Moatillata because he is confirmed town and the main dispute in this game right now is whether you or stickup is scum, it was the obvious target regardless of which one of you it is.

OK, fair enough.

SirSamVimes posted:

You are either scum or really bad at this game.

It's the second.

tpink
Feb 18, 2013

Melman

SirSamVimes posted:

Why didn't you vote chores?

I'm fine voting chores, as I said at some point yesterday. I wasn't around for the deadline to change my vote from stick to chores.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma
apologies for not posting much yesterday (or indeed voting), timezones really synced up badly this time around.

I attempted to jail This is a Stickup 2nd time in a row now, both failed - and after re-reading stickup's posts I think his story adds up wrt not being the kidnapper. There is no role in the scum team which can protect another scum, short of kidnapping.

However I still get a scummy vibe w/r/t stickup mainly for the continued focusing on the kidnapper/jailer role - a handy foil claiming he was kidnapped by someone claiming to be me (further obfuscating things); suggests to me that he was kidnapped last night by scumbro to get through to LYLO and push a lynch through. Tpink imo is also extremely on-point about his hiipfire kill, like unless I'm being a retard like usual there's no other way there could have been 3 kills on Night 2????

(Good vig claim) vs (Bad excuse-filled vig claim) = Stickup scumrolecop

##vote this is a stickup

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma

DrAlexanderTobacco posted:

Tpink imo is also extremely on-point about his hiipfire kill, like unless I'm being a retard like usual there's no other way there could have been 3 kills on Night 2????

quoting this for emphasis because if that's correct then it's 100% confirmation that stickup is a big fat scummy liar

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
I cannot believe that we might actually lose this when the answer is staring us right in the face with SCUM written on it's forehead just because he has bad handwriting

that is NOT MECHANICALLY POSSIBLE HOLY poo poo

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
if you are jailed you CAN NOT go anywhere or do anything

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
if a scum player jailed the other scum player, there would be no night kill. full stop.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


DrAlexanderTobacco posted:

apologies for not posting much yesterday (or indeed voting), timezones really synced up badly this time around.

I attempted to jail This is a Stickup 2nd time in a row now, both failed - and after re-reading stickup's posts I think his story adds up wrt not being the kidnapper. There is no role in the scum team which can protect another scum, short of kidnapping.

However I still get a scummy vibe w/r/t stickup mainly for the continued focusing on the kidnapper/jailer role - a handy foil claiming he was kidnapped by someone claiming to be me (further obfuscating things); suggests to me that he was kidnapped last night by scumbro to get through to LYLO and push a lynch through. Tpink imo is also extremely on-point about his hiipfire kill, like unless I'm being a retard like usual there's no other way there could have been 3 kills on Night 2????

(Good vig claim) vs (Bad excuse-filled vig claim) = Stickup scumrolecop

##vote this is a stickup

I'm pretty sure Tpink is scum. The only possible reason for your action to fail against Stickup is if he were jailed. If you were jailed, you would have been notified about it because of the communication aspect and they have no other form of roleblocking. And if one scum member was jailing the other, it wouldn't have been possible for there to be a NK.

##vote tpink

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma

this is a stickup posted:

I cannot believe that we might actually lose this when the answer is staring us right in the face with SCUM written on it's forehead just because he has bad handwriting

that is NOT MECHANICALLY POSSIBLE HOLY poo poo

Roleblocking and protecting is mentioned but scumteam kills? Eager to have clarification from tobbs maybe.

In any case. If what I say was not true - how were there 3 kills that night?

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
sk, scum, kidnapper(probably tpink) = 3 kills

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


DrAlexanderTobacco posted:

Roleblocking and protecting is mentioned but scumteam kills? Eager to have clarification from tobbs maybe.

In any case. If what I say was not true - how were there 3 kills that night?

Roleblocking has always included scum kills. If this game had an exception it would be weird and dumb and also make the Escort role incredibly anti-town.

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma

SirSamVimes posted:

The only possible reason for your action to fail against Stickup is if he were jailed. If you were jailed, you would have been notified about it because of the communication aspect and they have no other form of roleblocking.

I didn't say I was jailed though

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
you cannot perform any actions when roleblocked or jailed, check the mafia wiki and please unvote me while you do so scum doesn't hammer me

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


This game is solved, tpink/chores are the scumteam.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

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Also yes holy poo poo unvote while you're unsure about the mechanics so he doesn't get scumrushed

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma

this is a stickup posted:

sk, scum, kidnapper(probably tpink) = 3 kills

forgetting about my own identical one-shot jesus loving christ ##unvote

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma
:suicide:

thanks pals. you are mafia wise

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

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have you not even used your one shot kill rofl

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

DrAlexanderTobacco posted:

I didn't say I was jailed though

exactly, I was jailed by someone claiming to be you. they didn't do anything but claim to be drjeckyll, ask who I thought the last scum were, then say alright. nothing else, very different from the nights before

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?
he nailed somber iirc? a great call on his part

DrAlexanderTobacco
Jun 11, 2012

Help me find my true dharma

SirSamVimes posted:

have you not even used your one shot kill rofl

Nah I used it to kill Somberbrero, I meant I forgot about it in the list of "who can kill on night 2"

tpink
Feb 18, 2013

Melman
Holy poo poo. I didn't think it was possible for town to lose this game, but that is where we are heading.

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tpink
Feb 18, 2013

Melman
Seriously, how are people reading stick's ridiculous posts from yesterday (where he claimed he didn't know that I had claimed vig, that he didn't know that I voted for him, and that he didn't even read all my posts before deciding I was scum) and go "hmm ok that's town."

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