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Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Sentient Data posted:

Problem is that even purely optional genetic manipulation leads to an absolutely gigantic disparity based on class - it could end up with the superwealthy being nearly a literally different (and surely touted as superior) species

Not if it's freely available to everyone. Basically all medicine leads to the rich living longer and being healthier than the poor if it's only available to those who can pay for it. Like, if you have to pay for your own cancer treatments then a lot more poor people than rich will die of cancer.

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Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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hard counter posted:

someone else can try to persuade jastiger now
The thing is, there's nothing to persuade him of. When he actually explains what he means it turns out he already agrees with what everyone else is saying, he just insists on using the word "eugenics" to mean something different to what everyone else understands it to mean.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Das Boo posted:

Twitter is an excellent tool for breaking news, amber alerts, and police, traffic and weather-related updates. It's banal for everything else.
Twitter is good only for comedy. Follow funny people and have something to make you smile when you're bored. That's it.

steinrokkan posted:

It should be a social media platform
Treating Twitter like social media is completely misunderstanding how it works. It's a blogging platform, not a social networking one. Everyone I know who says they hate Twitter has tried to use it as social media, following people they know or want to keep in touch with. Don't follow your friends, follow people who post entertaining things, then it's great.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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steinrokkan posted:

Pro-wrestling is inherently immoral

How so?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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steinrokkan posted:

As I said, even MMA carries with it positive connotations, but not wrestling, which is just the face of depravity laid out as bare as modern society allows.
MMA is literally just real people fighting each other as entertainment though? Like, I can see how you can make an argument that media glorifying violence is bad, but I don't know how you can rate wrestling as worse than MMA by that standard.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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yeah I eat rear end posted:

My main problem with pro wrestling is the terminology and the made up words like kayfabe. You can't call the good/bad guy "the good/bad guy", no it has to be a "face" or a "heel", etc. It's like you're intentionally trying to make people sound like idiots when discussing it.
That stuff is annoying, but it makes sense that it exists when you look at the history of wrestling where they spoke in code to keep up the charade of being a legitimate sport, and it's pretty much the same as the slang that gets used for other genres, like how if you watch the DC TV shows then you know "metas" are people with non-magical super powers, or if you watch cop shows then you know terms like "perp" and "MO".

Henchman of Santa posted:

Wrestling is like comic books in that it's completely absurd and I could never get into it but I love learning about the insane things going on in that world, especially if told to me by a passionate fan.
Comics are a medium, wrestling is a genre. By which I basically mean that Spider-Man is absolutely nothing like Maus, but Lucha Underground is very similar to WWE.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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bradzilla posted:

actually all the wrestlers from the last 20 years are still the main eventers lol

I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or not, but the Undertaker needs to retire immediately, if not sooner. It's just sad seeing him stagger out to the ring and pretend like he can still wrestle when it's pretty obvious he can barely walk. Putting him in the Royal Rumble is just the worst idea.

Aesop Poprock posted:

Let me ruin that for you

his weird nephews write it to make money off selling merch and he has little if anything to actually do with it. They do it for a few other older wrestlers too
How would that ruin it? The Iron Sheik is a fictional character, not a real person. Who cares who writes his lines as long as you enjoy them?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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KrayG posted:

Also that new gorillaz song is loving awful and i own all their previous albums, i used to spam their original self titled while playing team fortress classic so i am something of an authority figure on the subject.

Benjamin Clementine has a really great voice but there's something about his accent/pronunciation that I find weirdly off-putting.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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American presidents aren't actually that important and the amount of attention they get (both from Americans and internationally) is ridiculous.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Das Boo posted:

My mom is that lady kids take hurt/abandoned animals to, so I had a pet raccoon for a time growing up. He got along with the dogs and was pretty well-behaved, didn't tear things up. Better companion than the opossum.

I'm not sure that "a better pet than an opossum" is a great endorsement.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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yeah I eat rear end posted:

I don't know how there can be a person that can't relate in some way to each of the characters and find the situations they are in funny.

The characters are obnoxious and dumb in an incredibly contrived way. Like, obnoxious and dumb people exist, but not like that. No real person would be like that and it's not even an exaggeration or caricature, it's just implausible.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Aesop Poprock posted:

Similar to the always sunny or archer or arrested development people.
Except that those shows are good and the characters work because they're exaggerated versions of realistic people.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Aesop Poprock posted:

None of those characters are more realistic than the Seinfeld ones what are you even talking about

They're not realistic, they're caricatures. You could start with a realistic character and then exaggerate certain features to end up with them. The Seinfeld characters don't strike me that way at all, they don't seem like they started with realistic people, they just went straight to ridiculously dumb arsehole and there's nothing relatable about them.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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yo rear end is grass posted:

The first season of Stranger Things was boring and predictable.

I've watched the first three episodes and I'm having some difficulty getting through it because nothing's really happened to catch my interest yet. I'm not exactly bored watching it, but I never think "I've got to watch the next episode to find out what happens" because there's no hook. I assume there's something at some point, because people went nuts over it, but from what I've seen so far I just don't get it.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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silence_kit posted:

IMO, George Costanza is a pretty universal character. The character was so popular that it spawned an HBO series, Curb Your Enthusiasm, which is basically an entire TV show about George.

You don't relate at all to George's laziness, selfishness, or constant insecurity? Wow, either you are a model human being or maybe you haven't given Seinfeld a fair shake.

To be fair, I haven't watched Seinfeld since it was actually on TV, so I could be wrong about it. But my brother loved it and I hated it and we have fairly consistently opposed tastes in comedy, so I'm not that likely to give it a second chance.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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veni veni veni posted:

I appreciate that someone else recognizes that Ready Player One is absolute poo poo. Worst book I have ever read.
I don't think that's a particular uncommon opinion. There are people who love it but there are also plenty of people who recognise that it is worthless garbage.

Jastiger posted:

Shut down the South in the Civil War, thus preserving some semblence of Democracy in the West
How would the American civil war have led to the end of democracy in western Europe?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Jastiger posted:

The South wins the Civil war and secedes. WWI breaks out. Guess whose side the South goes on and/or guess how effective the North is in helping the British?

Yeah.

I doubt anyone can say with any confidence what effect a successful secession would have on a war that took place 50 years later on the other side of the world, but it's my understanding that America's involvement wasn't terribly significant anyway. :shrug:

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Mu Zeta posted:

The popular vote and electoral college usually matches up though. AFAIK it's only different with Dubya and Drumpf.
If it always matched, there would be no point having it. That's the thing that annoys me about people complaining about the electoral college - whether you're for it or against it, occasionally delivering results that differ from the popular vote is the whole point. It's not a mistake or a flaw in the system, it's exactly what's supposed to happen.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Mu Zeta posted:

People didn't complain that much because it usually matched up. It's just one of those weird quirks in the system that doesn't do any damage so no need to complain about it. But look at the disparity in popularity in the votes now and it makes sense that people start to get pissed about it. What's the alternative? Just stay quiet and shut up? Why should people have to accept the system is working as intended?

You can argue that a different system would be better, but making the argument that the electoral college is bad because it sometimes produces results that differ from the popular vote is a very dumb argument because that's the whole point of it. If you put ice cream in the microwave and it melts, you can say "I don't like melted ice cream", but you don't say "the microwave is broken because it melted this ice cream". The microwave is working perfectly. If it didn't heat things there'd be no point in having it.

To leave the analogy behind, if you want to argue that the electoral college is bad and should be scrapped then the argument you need to make is that the popular vote would consistently produce better results (however you define that) rather than just pointing out that the results would be different.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Jastiger posted:

"Better" in any contest where someone makes a choice is generally the one that is ACTUALLY their choice vs any other out come. Anything that more accurately reflects the intended choice.

The EC isn't dumb because it can diffuse votes, its dumb because of the way its enacted and gives more voting power to low density states.

Mu Zeta posted:

It should be one person one vote
You're both just saying "the way I prefer is better because I say it is" though. You haven't said why it's better.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Sentient Data posted:

Hell, the usa isn't even a democracy at all - it's a constitutional republic
:rolleyes:

Jastiger posted:

Its better because it actually reflects thr will of the voters better than the xjrrent system
You still haven't given any reason as to why that would be better.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Jastiger posted:

Wouldn't you agree that a mechanism that allows you to do X can be judged on how accurately it allows you to do X?

Sure. And the electoral college is designed to overrule the popular vote under certain circumstances, which is what it does.

Your argument is this:

1: The president should be directly elected by popular vote.
2: The electoral college prevents this.
C: The electoral college is bad.

This is all fine as long as we accept the first premise, but I'm not everyone accepts that premise. If you want people who disagree with you to accept your conclusion then you first need to convince them of that first premise, which you have made no attempt to do.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Americans calling the main course "entrée" is weird and dumb. Why are there so many food and cooking based differences between American and normal English?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Wheat Loaf posted:

Crisps are better than chocolate as far as snack food goes.
Salty is better than sweet in food in general.

Jastiger posted:

The Silent Majority is on my side.
There's no such thing as the silent majority. If you think that the people who agree with you are just not speaking up for some reason, you're actually just expressing very unpopular opinions.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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yeah I eat rear end posted:

Rye bread in all forms is disgusting. Sourdough followed closely by potato bread is best for almost everything.

Abbott's Village Bakery light rye is the best bread you can get if you can't get to a decent bakery and have to buy it from the supermarket.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Solice Kirsk posted:

Oysters are the worst shellfish. That means they're just OK. I don't know how unpopular of an opinion it is, but I would rather have fresh seafood than pretty much any other meat. And I love meat. Its one of the only things I miss about living in Florida when I was a kid.

Seafood is good. Other meat is good. Most food is good. I pity those who don't enjoy food.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Baronjutter posted:

-I think Firefly was really over-rated. Maybe if it went on like 7 seasons it would have been one of those shows where "oh the first couple seasons were rough but it gets better" but after watching it I can totally understand why it got canceled.
I really liked it at the time (though not to the same extent as the fans who complained about it being cancelled and campaigned for it to come back and so on), but I saw an episode a few months ago and it just doesn't hold up. That said, it was definitely sabotaged by being played out of sequence and at random days and times, but it's merely an OK show. If it had been given a chance it probably could have carried on for a while, but it's probably better to let it stand as a single season. And the movie's not good at all.

Low Desert Punk posted:

I don't smoke, but I actually sort of like the smell of (fresh) cigarette smoke.
The smell that lingers on smokers' clothes or in the houses of people who smoke indoors is awful, but yeah, fresh cigarette smoke smells nice.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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AutumnDDP posted:

Hi everyone,

I tried making a grilled cheese sandwich with cheese and banana. It was ok. The previous poster that acted like it was a revelation was full of crap. Thanks!

-Autumn

The "use mayonnaise instead of butter" thing that people go on about is also pretty underwhelming.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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starkebn posted:

Why use butter on a sandwich at all?
Because you're a civilised person and not an American.

hard counter posted:

but at least for the foreseeable future you would definitely be a drag on your 'community' imho because you still need things from other people and giving nothing in return is lousy if you're otherwise able-bodied
Sure, but someone who's lazy and doesn't want to work is going to be a drag on their community regardless. You can force someone to get a job, but you can't actually make them do it, much less do it well. The people who are just collecting the dole for years or scamming disability or whatever aren't going to be good workers, they're going to do as little as possible and get in the way and make life harder for anyone who has to work with them. If someone would rather live on less than the minimum wage and watch TV all day than work, I say let them. It's really no loss.

hard counter posted:

to be honest i've never had a totally pointless job even at the entry level but if those really do exist somewhere than yeah i see what you mean in that case
They definitely exist. I had a job for a few months where I spent half my time doing stuff that could have been automated and taken a fraction of the time and the other half reading Cracked articles because even doing it the slow way it didn't take me that long to do. In that case they did realise eventually that that job was a complete waste of time, but in that same office there were still about a dozen people doing the work of six.

RoboRodent posted:

Mayonnaise by itself is nasty.
Mayonnaise is delicious.

Baronjutter posted:

Playing the same few games over and over. These are little kids they can barely even read, they aren't sitting there chatting with friends, these are like 2-5 year olds.
How much socialising do you think a two-year-old normally does?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


hard counter posted:

i would much rather live in world where the genuinely disabled are afforded a better, actually comfortable standard of living through the combined efforts of others than a world where that net's broadened to include the able-but-lazy under the same system that provides a sub-par standard of living for the involuntarily disabled

Those aren't the only two options though. I'd just let people collect unemployment indefinitely and without hassle so they don't need to pretend they're looking for a job or injured or whatever, and also have a separate system in place to provide services and support to people with disabilities.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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hard counter posted:

if we can't adequately take care of the involuntarily disabled with current means
What makes you think we can't? If you're trying to say that we're not currently doing that, I know, I am advocating for change. If you think we literally couldn't due to an overall lack of resources then you're just wrong.

hard counter posted:

dudes checking out of work just because they don't wanna just represents another person to cover with someone's else labor
But they're already being covered anyway, just inefficiently. Whether they're half-arsing a job that someone else will have to do over or scamming disability or just collecting unemployment, time and resources are being spent on them. Even if they're doing none of that and just living on the streets they're still being propped up by society, only it's being done in a really inefficient way and causing even more problems.

steinrokkan posted:

Also kids who grew up with intensive use of phones and other gadgets during their formative years have worse kinesthetic skills.
I didn't think there'd been any conclusive studies on that kind of thing due to the short amount of time it's been happening and the difficulty of finding control subjects?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Low Desert Punk posted:

I vastly prefer flat, deflated pillows to brand new ultra-fluffy ones. New pillows just seem to flop around and slide away from where they're supposed to be, and obnoxious softness makes me sleep worse.
My sisters complain that "boys ruin pillows" and they can't stand the cushions I have on my couch (because I've made them comfortable). :shrug:

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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yo rear end is grass posted:

As someone who just started working again after four years, being unemployed is the absolute worst. Even though you can wake up whenever you want, you will immediately begin worrying about how you will make rent, how you will feed yourself, how you will afford gas to go and look for a job. And that's not even taking into consideration things like emergency car fixes and dental issues.
Then before you know it, it's your mother's birthday! Your dad and sister each got her a wonderful gift, and you give her a hand made card. They say they understand that you can't afford much right now, and you know they do, but you see the worry in their eyes when you leave. The next day your dad calls you and asks if you need some money. You just know that your mom spent her whole birthday night discussing your situation with her husband. Happy birthday mommy!
After applying for jobs, (online only, your car's brakes are hosed again,) you watch some YouTube videos. Then you browse your favourite dead gay forums, refreshing the pages until you are certain there are going to be no more new posts for a while.
You go to the kitchen and look in the fridge. You've got expired ground beef, and one tortilla. With some spice magic, you make a taco you could probably feed to a dog.
You go and check YouTube again. Nothing new. You check the forums. People bitching about trolls, so nothing new. You go to bed, just to wake up and do it all over again.
Oh wait! There's an egg in the fridge! In the drawer! I forgot about that! Oh man, I'm gonna eat good tomorrow!

So yeah, I'll take your 9 to 5 life over having to deal with that poo poo again any day.
When I was unemployed I just went from living on one type of Centrelink payment to another (student to unemployment). Never had any of these problems.

yo rear end is grass posted:

Really though, the worst part of unemployment is the lack of socialization. Sure you can talk to family, or a significant other if you have one, but there's nothing quite like talking to people who don't intimately know you.
This is definitely an issue though. The best thing about work is that it gets you out of the house and into places where you have to socialise. If you don't work (or got to school) then you don't have anywhere you need to be so it's really tempting to just stay home by yourself all day every day.

veni veni veni posted:

Renting is great until the rent prices shoot through the roof and it costs as more than a mortgage.
Then you move. :shrug:

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Three in one? Chopsticks, fork, and ???

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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slouch posted:

I honestly can not comprehend why so many people get upset about spoilers for movies, books, tv shows etc. I usually enjoy things more if I already know what is going to happen, and have never felt like a "twist" at the end of a narrative was ruined because I knew about it in advance. When people try to explain to me why spoilers ruin the experience for them or whatever it never really makes sense. This usually only ever comes up when someone tries to recommend a piece of media to me and I ask them what happens in it. People get all cagey about the details and refuse to tell me because they think I won't be able to like it if it's been spoiled for me.
:same:

Actually, I don't feel like spoilers make anything better, they just don't make it worse. The only exception (sort of) is comedy, where hearing the punch line ahead of the setup can definitely ruin a joke, but as far as stories go it makes no difference.

And people complaining about spoilers are the worst. If you're that bothered by it, just make sure to watch stuff in a timely manner. Don't expect everyone you know to avoid discussing popular media just because you might not have seen it yet. Get over it.


doverhog posted:

I could list a bunch of writers, of literature, not "rock songs", who did lots of drugs but really the list is not needed, you can probably think of many of them on your own.
Most of those are exaggerated or taken out of context (like, they did drugs but not actually while they were producing their best work) or just made up (because they must have been on something to come up with that!). Drugs making you "more creative" is just how you feel when you're on drugs because you're too impaired to realise how dumb your ideas are.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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You Are A Elf posted:

1080p is perfectly fine for TV and movie watching. Anything more is just silly.
I watch most TV in standard definition. Maybe I'd notice a difference if I had a bigger screen, but does it even matter for a sitcom or whatever?\

veni veni veni posted:

Drive through employees are not the same as telemarketers. If you choose to do something lovely and predatory as your job don't be surprised if people don't like it.
Do you think anyone is choosing to work as a telemarketer if they have other options?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Mu Zeta posted:

It's fine if your eyesight is bad. I felt the same way until I had surgery.
I got glasses a while back and I thought maybe I'd start caring about high definition TV and video games, but it turns out it's not that I couldn't see the difference it's just that it doesn't affect my enjoyment in any way.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Mu Zeta posted:

There are numerous apps that just block known garbage numbers for you. Don't mess with adding spammers to your contacts.

Jerry Cotton posted:

It's from the late nineties.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Henchman of Santa posted:

It's pretty easy not to watch or stare at ads actually

WampaLord posted:

It's really easy to avoid ads.
This just means you're taking them in without noticing.

Aschlafly posted:

My unpopular opinion: The Fall is a better show than Sherlock.
I don't even know what The Fall is, and I'm pretty sure you're right, because Sherlock is a terrible show. It's Doctor Who for people who want to pretend they're too grown up for Doctor Who (and also for people who love Doctor Who).

yeah I eat rear end posted:

As someone already mentioned, that's what voicemail is for. The only people who don't leave voicemails are the ones who already know you will not call them back, because you aren't interested in what they are selling.
In my experience, almost no one ever leaves voicemail.

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Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

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Aramek posted:

- Pomegranates are 100% worth the effort to eat them.
Outside, yes. If you're sitting outside and can just spit the seeds into the garden, great. If you're inside and have to actually deal with them, not worth it.

Das Boo posted:

I'm always a little bit bugged by the notion that it's okay to have a lesbian couple in media as long as they're hot. (AND THEN THEY KISS AS I WATCH!) It's not as often you see a gay male couple or, heaven forbid, an older/less attractive lesbian couple. Or, you know, that these characters are people beyond who they gently caress.
And if you do see a gay male couple they're old and exist only for the purpose of going "look at all the hate and bigotry they had to endure, good thing society's so much better now!"

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