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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Please Please Me is a better listen than any of the Beatles' post-Help! albums

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


White bread tastes dreadful.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless



I used to only have white bread, then I switched to brown bread and only realised how much I'd gone off white bread when I was making my sandwiches to take into work and we'd run out of the whole wheat stuff. White bread is far too sweet-tasting.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


grittyreboot posted:

-Grown men who take every opportunity to bitch about Justin Bieber are entitled crybabies. He's not making music for you. Not everything has to appeal to your taste.

"I'M ONLY 13 AND I KNOW WE NEED REAL ROCK STARS LIKE PAPA ROACH, NOT THE lovely (C)RAP MUSIC OF 2DAY!"

(It was actually this rubbish rather than politics stuff that first inspired me to start blocking comments on YouTube.)

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Jerry Cotton posted:

The Comics Code was not "legal", it was self-censorship. Just like the ratings systems games companies adhere to so they can get sold in shops.

I believe the big publishers (chiefly National Comics and I think MLJ, which subsequently became DC and Archie) were the driving force behind it because a) it was much better to set the terms themselves rather than have them imposed by an outside regulator; and b) it would hurt competitors such as EC whose content tended to be more mature.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Aramek posted:

Speaking of, Meatloaf is good. The food and the singer.

Guy's voice has been shot to hell for years now. Went to see him in 2010 and he was bellowing and slurring everything.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Pierce Brosnan is the best James Bond there's been (but he only had one good movie and one okay movie).

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


yeah I eat rear end posted:

I agree with the wheat loaf about pierce brosnan too. Sean Connery second best.

Connery created a character who was different from the books; his Bond was a posh roughneck like the character in the books but for the most part his negative attributes (the misogyny, the drunkenness, the penchant for excessive violence etc.) were present but downplayed. Obviously Moore played the suave, cartoonish 1970s super-spy character while Dalton and Craig are closer to the novels (Dalton is probably closest, actually). I think Brosnan's take did the best job of combining both versions of the character.

Like, you've got Craig who's explicitly described by M as a "blunt instrument" - he's a thug in a suit. Put in the same terms, Brosnan plays him like a surgeon's scalpel if that makes any sense.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Tiggum posted:

Pierce Brosnan is the best James Bond, but "best" is a relative term and all James Bonds are actually terrible.

Nah, it's good fun.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Count Basie was the best bandleader in the swing era, not Duke Ellington or Benny Goodman.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Is this a "perfect is the enemy of the good" thing?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


In my view it's completely acceptable to be right for ostensibly "wrong" reasons.

My own anecdote relates to this year's referendum. I voted to stay in the EU because I thought it would be the better choice for British businesses in general and the financial sector (to which my job is connected) in particular.

But, no, apparently the only valid reason to vote to stay in (if you believe the people I encountered) was because Nigel Farage was a racist.

Well, whatever. You had my vote even if you didn't want it.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


doverhog posted:

Racism is bad for business so you were almost there.

I agree on the first part but don'think know what to make of the second.

In any event, the other fellow ending the conversation by saying, "The idea of a capitalist supporting the EU makes my skin crawl," was an amusing spectacle. Did he even know what the EU is all about? Evidently not.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


It is good to be flexible with one's principles. Not in every situation, mind you, and certainly not on every issue, but just as a general rule, it's no great sin to take one step back so you can take two steps forward.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


It's silly to put too much stock in the message of a piece of art, whether it's ostensibly progressive or conservative or feminist or whatever. Most of those things are what the viewer make sure of the thing more so than things that are intrinsic to the film itself - if you hold something up as a purposeful exemplar of some value you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

If I was making a movie or writing a book or producing a TV show, I'd pander to whatever demographic looked like the it was most likely to sink its money into the merchandise and I would do so totally insincerely. It would be the easiest fib I ever had to tell.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


WampaLord posted:

Gee, I wonder if this movie is trying to say anything about women or feminism.

I didn't say it was any kind of uniform rule, and in any event didn't mean to talk about Mad Max in particular.

You can trust a dishonest person to let you down but you can't necessarily trust an honest person not to.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


WampaLord posted:

My bad, the person before you posted this:


and I assumed you were adding your consensus to it. I guess it's up to you (veni veni veni) if "We are not things" is or isn't a bold political statement, but considering our President elect has said you can just grab women by the pussy, I would say it's one that needed to be stated.

It's no problem.

I'm not saying art or media don't ever have any intrinsic messages or themes, and I'm certainly not saying that they shouldn't. As to the former, everything a person creates will have something to say, and many are indeed open to many different interpretations even in spite of what their creators' explicit intentions may have been.

I guess the point I was aiming for was, "We should accept the Death of the Author principle, but we shouldn't rely on it in such a way that we set ourselves up for disappointment," in a situation where (as I suggested I probably would be) the person behind the thing was totally cynical about it and knew the audience would eat anything up if they dressed it up properly.

(I'm probably not explaining it very well.)

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


spit on my clit posted:

dewey defeats truman

"You provide the pictures, I'll provide the war."

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


I have to confess, if you're turning on the TV and seeing stuff like John Oliver being a smug rich British guy going "lol 'Drumpf' is a silly word lol the dumbass hicks all love a guy with a stupid name lol" I wouldn't be surprised if you gave credence to fake news.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


My opinion is that Taylor Swift isn't much of a singer, and also that Kanye was right insofar as, while Beyoncé's video wasn't one of the best videos of all time (OF ALL TIME) it was still better than Taylor Swift's video.

My other opinion is that prog rock, nine times out of ten, isn't really rock music at all. It's just people wanking and noodling and squawking about elves and half-baked philosophy. I think the only worthwhile variety of prog rock is the really early stuff from the late 1960s and very early 1970s when it was still identifiable as jazz or R&B.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


yeah I eat rear end posted:

If we're talking music, I'll go back to my old standby of saying that Bon Jovi is the best band to come out of the 80s and are still among the best even now.

Bon Jovi were fine back when they were a rock band.

Gospel singers rocked harder than most actual rock and roll artists in the 50s and 60s (with the exceptions of Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis and possibly Larry Williams).

Wheat Loaf has a new favorite as of 21:47 on Dec 8, 2016

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Lunchmeat Larry posted:

Being a warmonger is still pretty bad even if your opponent is a surprise sex Nazi.

What kind of excuses do you suppose Sanders's supporters would have made for him after he ordered his first drone strike?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Jerry Cotton posted:

Dave Cockrum was a pretty darn good X-Men artist!

I didn't think anyone disputed that.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


I honestly can't understand the appeal of most stereotypical indie rock that comes off like it's trying to be alternative for the sake of being alternative or something.

What's the use of music you can't dance to?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


steinrokkan posted:

I don't understand why a newspaper would carry articles other than train timetables and technical descriptions of new elevator models.

The Transylvania Times from back in the 1880s (ed. "V. Tepes") was nothing but that.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


As far as politics and politicians go, "authenticity" and "ideological purity" are hopelessly overrated. The most important thing is to win and it's perfectly acceptable to be right for allegedly "wrong" reasons.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


1960-1964 (i.e. post-Elvis, pre-Beatles if you're being reductive) is unfairly maligned for music.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


MizPiz posted:

People who legitimately believe dad rock is the best type of music have the worst opinions about music.

How do we define "dad rock" exactly? Is it a particular subset of classic rock or just classic rock in general?

This is something that's always bugged me a bit because my dad was a teenager in the 1970s and his favourite bands were the Bay City Rollers and ABBA.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


gleebster posted:

I've never been terribly musical myself, and have found some things to be decent tunes, but do not tend to obsess over the stuff. Until the advent of recorded and later, broadcast music, I think lots of people didn't care for music at all, or only cared very little, and it would be a good thing if society found a way back to that.

Opera singers were some of the biggest mass appeal celebrities of the 19th century. They would go on tour and have throngs of people turn out to see see hem when their an up a arrived in the harbour.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Tiggum posted:

If you want to make a more widely applicable point, then maybe give some examples from 1990-1995 an 2002-2007 and say why you think those are better than the music of '96-'01?

Let's look at it this way: people can argue as much as they want about who the best recording artists of the 1990s were, but at the end of the day, the most popular and most successful were Garth Brooks and Céline Dion.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


By the way, do people still make "I'M ONLY 13 AND I HATE NEGRO MUSIC RAP AND JUSTIN BIEBER - I ONLY LIKE REAL ROCK MUSIC LIKE LIMP BIZKIT!" comments on YouTube videos? It's just that I've had YouTube comments switched off for so long I can't remember the last time I saw one.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


The ones I always enjoyed (?) were the "You say X, I say Y" ones, where X is the flavour of the month and Y is some bottom-feeding blooz rawk band from the 1970s the commenter discovered via Guitar Hero.

I remember really enjoying one where a guy clearly decided to have some sport and started off on that whole "modern music sucks" spiel, and when he got some classic rock teenagers agreeing with him, he told them it had all been poo poo since Charlie Parker died and "rock neanderthals who don't know the first thing about music ruined everything" and the people he'd had on side got all affronted.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


I don't think Taylor Swift is especially talented, to be honest.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


lemon-lyme disease posted:

Neither do I, but whenever she gets brought up in front of my wife, I make a point of saying she's a "talented young artist." She'll likely murder me for it eventually, even though I'm pretty sure she knows I'm joking.

Not a fan, huh?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Is this one of those "Disney bribed Rotten Tomatoes to give Batman v Superman bad reviews" things?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


lemon-lyme disease posted:

Oh, I don't mind some good ol' Taylor Swift. My wife does though. The "artist" bit is what really gets to her.

Ah, I see, I misunderstood your post. I thought the implication was that your wife is a fan and you were being sarcastic.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


The UK should have a system of proportional representation even if it meant the outcome was - as it would have been last year - a Conservative coalition including UKIP and the Democratic Unionist Party.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Solice Kirsk posted:

Cannibalism isn't illegal as long as you don't murder the person or steal a body or anything right? Or is it only if its a survival situation?I have no idea how it works if you have to draw lots while adrift at sea or anything though. DOubt anyone would be prosecuted for that, but you never know.

There's the custom of the sea, which was a non-legal set of principles followed by mariners shipwrecked or adrift, the most notorious of which involved drawing lots to see who would be killed and eaten to save his starving comrades. There's a very famous British court case called R v Dudley and Stephens which involved the latter scenario and established the precedent that necessity is no defence to murder (although based on public sympathy towards the defendants, they were shown mercy by the Home Secretary on the recommendation of the court and their sentence was commuted from death to six months in prison).

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Texture always puts me off things more than taste.

I love the taste of roast chicken, for instance, but I don't like the texture of it, so I almost never eat roast chicken.

It's weird, I admit. Obviously it's a luxury to be able to make distinctions like that. If I was starving I wouldn't be picky.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Go back a hundred years and eugenics was a "progressive" position. George Bernard Shaw, for instance, was a great believer in eugenics as a scientific tool for "uplifting" the poor and needy in the socialist society he envisioned.

Quite infamously, on the same night that the Beveridge report - which gave rise to the British welfare state - was being debated in parliament, William Beveridge himself was giving a speech to the the Eugenics Society in London.

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