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So if Brock was the final boss of wwe, Goldberg is the secret boss.
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sticklefifer posted:And wrestles like 3 times a year, if he feels like it, so how long between defeats hardly indicates anything at this point.
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Nov 21, 2016 06:29
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Sanguinia posted:Who were these pissed people in the subway? The cheers for Goldberg's win were overwhelming and continued all the way through his celebration. Was it a John Cena thing where he comes out for the Rumble and everyone loses it, but then later they remember "Wait, my emotions are lying to me, I actually hate this!" or what? There was a small contingent of anti-Goldberg people (including the guy next to me who was super into Roman and hilariously screaming "You cheer for Goldberg but you boo THIS????" ) who were probably concentrated in the subway and the lines to get out. The Goldberg pop and chant in the ACC itself was unreal and super cool. Oh yeah and on our way out, a clearly-lost and still in his gear Randy Orton wandered out from a hallway and looked extremely pissed. Randy is a pretty man.
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Nov 21, 2016 06:34
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Spikeguy posted:So if Brock was the final boss of wwe, Goldberg is the secret boss. Goldberg is the Shin Akuma to Brock's M. Bison.
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Nov 21, 2016 06:34
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Spikeguy posted:So if Brock was the final boss of wwe, Goldberg is the secret boss. Asuka's that low level Boss you assume will be a pushover and then you get your rear end handed to you time and time again for gently caress's sake Giant Ornstein stop being such a cheating gently caress 
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Nov 21, 2016 06:37
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Jetfire posted:Goldberg is the Shin Akuma to Brock's M. Bison. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDFTNRD3rhU&t=1m5s
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Nov 21, 2016 06:43
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I don't know why people are complaining, this makes perfect storyline sense. This isn't "WWE YOU loving MORONS YOU WASTED THE RUB ON loving GOLDBERG", this is "Brock didn't take this seriously and it cost him in the worst way." Let's look at Brock's singles losses since he returned. -First was to John Cena. This was later semi-retconned as Brock still suffering from diverticulitis. Supposedly when he faced Cena at full strength, well, we got Summerslam 2014. -Next was Triple H at Wrestlemania. Real life helped there, in a sense: he suffered a concussion and HHH still barely beat him. When he tried to prove it the next month in a steelcage match Brock smashed him again. -Undertaker at Summerslam 2015. Undertaker tapped, ref didn't see it, and Brock didn't tap to lose, he just passed out. In their third match in Hell In A Cell, Brock won decisively. Everything else has either been screwjobs, him not taking the pin, or dominant wins. Or in Big Show's case, he didn't care so he just beat him to paste with a chair instead of wrestling. You can very easily storyline spin this as Brock took all those matches seriously, but not Goldberg. Why would he? So the match starts, he powers Goldberg into the corner, Goldberg pushes him down. Look at Lesnar's facial expressions. He's basically going "Okay you got some piss and vinegar in you old man it won't change anything". Watch how he gets up. He rolls and briefly turns his back to Goldberg. I'm not an MMA fan, but my friend is, and he told me, in boxing and in MMA, its not the punches you see coming that knock you out, it's the ones you don't see coming. Lesnar turns around right into the spear. That was the punch he didn't see coming. It completely knocked him off kilter and Goldberg hammered on that fact as hard as he could in two giant bursts of offense and Lesnar ended up never able to regain his bearings. Of course, this is WWE, so we're probably going to get all the roster sucks and this 50 year old man rules, but drat it, THIS BOOKING MAKES SENSE AND CAN BE EASILY EXPLAINED.
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Nov 21, 2016 06:44
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Spikeguy posted:So if Brock was the final boss of wwe, Goldberg is the secret boss. I just said as much in the discussion thread; Goldberg is Ultima Weapon, so it's fine for him to win. Everyone else still needs to be the #1 top guy to have any sort of chance against Lesnar though, or at least a plucky group of misfits whose villages were destroyed.
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Nov 21, 2016 06:45
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Cornwind Evil posted:I don't know why people are complaining, this makes perfect storyline sense. Brock's booking before and after Undertaker are really obviously two different things, and they more or less asked you to forget about everything before and booked him completely differently.
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Nov 21, 2016 06:47
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Cornwind Evil posted:THIS BOOKING MAKES SENSE AND CAN BE EASILY EXPLAINED. They almost certainly won't explain it that way, though
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Nov 21, 2016 07:15
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I just got home, read the spoilers, are any of the hour long matches actually worth watching or should I just wait for highlights and/or the Dave Meltzer review? And hour is a loving longass time for a wrestling match.
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Nov 21, 2016 07:31
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AlmightyPants posted:I just got home, read the spoilers, are any of the hour long matches actually worth watching or should I just wait for highlights and/or the Dave Meltzer review? And hour is a loving longass time for a wrestling match.
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Nov 21, 2016 07:34
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honestly i'd say only the tag and cruiserweight matches are entirely skipable, the men's match kinda straddles the line but eh i enjoyed it and didn't even notice it was an hour long until it ended
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Nov 21, 2016 07:34
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AlmightyPants posted:I just got home, read the spoilers, are any of the hour long matches actually worth watching or should I just wait for highlights and/or the Dave Meltzer review? And hour is a loving longass time for a wrestling match. Watch Goldberg/Brock on loop for an hour.
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Nov 21, 2016 07:52
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sami v miz was a really good match and the only people whining about it are loving marks that and the men's survivor series were the only must-see stuff, imo. women's was solid, I missed most of the tag match but it seemed like you could get highlights for it, cruiserweight match was bland bland bland and then hilariously dumb
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Nov 21, 2016 08:40
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Sorry but this is awful footage of what happened. Here's a clearer cut of what happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYmrVQS-G3E
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Nov 21, 2016 09:04
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That was about 9 moves too many, but other than that yeah everything checks out
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Nov 21, 2016 09:55
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the undertaker rub is exchanged like a sexually-transmitted disease and now goldberg is infected
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Nov 21, 2016 10:10
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If you didn't like how Brock-Goldberg went down then you're just a big silly.
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Nov 21, 2016 10:12
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I was definitely sports entertained by the ending and I don't really care about the streak or implications but I'm still having a hard time buying that Old Guy Who Hasn't Wrestled In 12 Years completely destroyed Actual MMA Fighter Brock Lesnar in under two minutes. If elections are rigged I bet these matches are rigged too.Cornwind Evil posted:I don't know why people are complaining, this makes perfect storyline sense. Ok I just saw this post and that's a good enough explanation for me. sonicice fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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Nov 21, 2016 10:24
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Hey, folks. I'm chiming in from the universe where Brock/Goldberg went 20 minutes, and you're all complaining about stupid WWE was to give those two guys more than two minutes and how Goldberg should've just destroyed Brock right away like he did to just about everybody when he was booked well.
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Nov 21, 2016 10:26
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LividLiquid posted:Hey, folks. I'm chiming in from the universe where Brock/Goldberg went 20 minutes, and you're all complaining about stupid WWE was to give those two guys more than two minutes and how Goldberg should've just destroyed Brock right away like he did to just about everybody when he was booked well. And the universe where Brock won has everybody complaining that WWE never does anything the fans want and could have delivered a true feelgood moment instead of further pumping up Brock for a match with Roman nobody wants and a rub that won't get Roman cheered. Funny old multiverse, ain't it?
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Nov 21, 2016 10:31
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LividLiquid posted:Hey, folks. I'm chiming in from the universe where Brock/Goldberg went 20 minutes, and you're all complaining about stupid WWE was to give those two guys more than two minutes and how Goldberg should've just destroyed Brock right away like he did to just about everybody when he was booked well. When you're right you're right
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Nov 21, 2016 10:40
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I've said all along that Goldberg is one of the few people in wrestling logic who can beat Brock and I've never enjoyed any one single moment of wrestling more. gently caress armchair booking; I got to see one more vintage Goldberg squash, and we've finally gotten past the huge story speedbump of Lesnar never losing simply and clean. I've teared up at wrestling twice: when Bayley pinned Sasha, and just now watching Goldberg pin Brock. gently caress the complainers, I'm 12 years old again. ed: rest of the show blew though, so I'm still glad I didn't bother to watch live. Thank gently caress for on-demand fast-forwarding.
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Nov 21, 2016 11:27
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It made me happy when the crowd would chant 10 every time some kind of count was involved.
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Nov 21, 2016 11:37
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keevo posted:It made me happy when the crowd would chant 10 every time some kind of count was involved. I'm curious if the crowd does it tonight as well, if 3 nights in a row is enough to spread it to Ottawa. Then maybe even outside of Canada?? It could be the new "WHAT" Or WWE could book a 3 hour Raw with zero ref counts tonight to nip it in the bud
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Nov 21, 2016 14:15
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Sanguinia posted:Who were these pissed people in the subway? The cheers for Goldberg's win were overwhelming and continued all the way through his celebration. Was it a John Cena thing where he comes out for the Rumble and everyone loses it, but then later they remember "Wait, my emotions are lying to me, I actually hate this!" or what? A lot of dad-aged dudes who were complaining that the big match they paid to see lasted 2 minutes. I don't think they were mad Goldberg won, I think they were mad that the show ended like a half hour earlier than they usually do and the main event was 2 minutes
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Nov 21, 2016 15:31
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WrasslorMonkey posted:That was about 9 moves too many, but other than that yeah everything checks out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w42tdKR9Rec E: Time: 0:27
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Nov 21, 2016 15:44
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The Berzerker posted:A lot of dad-aged dudes who were complaining that the big match they paid to see lasted 2 minutes. I don't think they were mad Goldberg won, I think they were mad that the show ended like a half hour earlier than they usually do and the main event was 2 minutes
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Nov 21, 2016 15:47
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Cornwind Evil posted:You can very easily storyline spin this as Brock took all those matches seriously, but not Goldberg. Why would he? As someone who fell off the wagon super hard for the last few months, this is exactly the impression I got from the video package and Brock's facials during the match. Brock's entire run has been "Of course I beat the Undertaker, of course I beat John Cena, of course I bloodied the hell out of Randy Orton, why WOULDN'T I?" So when someone comes in who's a legitimate threat, he's too arrogant to see it. My only complaint is I really wish that kind of match was given to Samoa Joe because he owns, but goddamn if I didn't have the biggest grin on my face after that match ended.
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Nov 21, 2016 16:36
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CascadeBeta posted:As someone who fell off the wagon super hard for the last few months, this is exactly the impression I got from the video package and Brock's facials during the match. Brock's entire run has been "Of course I beat the Undertaker, of course I beat John Cena, of course I bloodied the hell out of Randy Orton, why WOULDN'T I?" So when someone comes in who's a legitimate threat, he's too arrogant to see it. My only complaint is I really wish that kind of match was given to Samoa Joe because he owns, but goddamn if I didn't have the biggest grin on my face after that match ended. Doing this for Joe would be a good long term move, so of course they'd never do it.
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Nov 21, 2016 18:44
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triplexpac posted:Or WWE could book a 3 hour Raw with zero ref counts tonight to nip it in the bud That would mean an entire 3 hours of DQ gently caress finishes and they'd never do that hahaha
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Nov 21, 2016 19:51
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Abroham Lincoln posted:That would mean an entire 3 hours of DQ gently caress finishes and they'd never do that hahaha Jesus, I can't tell if I should watch Raw tonight or not just to see if they try this.
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Nov 21, 2016 19:58
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Fast finish -> good(ish) Goldberg ever winning anything -> very, very, very bad
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Nov 21, 2016 20:08
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Spikeguy posted:So if Brock was the final boss of wwe, Goldberg is the secret boss. Who is Emerald Weapon in this scenario
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Nov 21, 2016 20:14
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OldTennisCourt posted:Who is Emerald Weapon in this scenario 
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Nov 21, 2016 20:22
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I am sure you meant to say 
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Nov 21, 2016 20:24
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Went to sleep confused, woke up accepting and glorious seeing a Goldberg/Lesnar rematch 12 years after the fact
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Nov 21, 2016 21:51
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TUS posted:Went to sleep confused, woke up accepting and glorious seeing a Goldberg/Lesnar rematch 12 years after the fact I wouldn't go this far. I'm just mad it's being compared to Hardy/Sting. One of these was a conscious booking decision, the other was Jeff Hardy doing probably two or more different kinds of drugs. You might as well have called it a Montreal Screwjob with Goldberg making a heel turn for hitting Lesnar in the back, kinda. I'm mad about wrestling please send help friends
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i hope shane o mac is ok 
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