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MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!
Sadly NC as a model for the nation is probably optimistic as that assumes Trump lasts only one term, it could be even worse.

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Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


otoh 2016

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

pathetic little tramp posted:

But the SBOE coming down hard against McCrory appears to be on purpose; by not giving him any leeway, I think they're hoping to keep him from being able to petition the GA to call the election 'contested'. At this point, if McCheese were to say the election was contested, the only evidence they would have would be "We felt like it was." Cooper would take that to SCOTUS and basically have to win, or else elections would cease to have any meaning whatsoever.

I'm not sure how the SCOTUS would rule on this kind of case and I really hope we don't have to find out. Since he's being shot down by his own party via the election boards I'd have to think Art Pope or some similar rear end in a top hat is going to pull him aside and tell him "you're going to concede, or else" and then move on to have the GA gut the governorship of as much power as possible so that Cooper has to just sit and watch the GOP continue to gently caress the state sideways.

I pray to God that the ruling against Wisconsin's political gerrymandering is enough to finally push Kennedy to acknowledge its problems and rule against it instead of being wishy-washy like he was in 2004.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2016/11/22/wisconsin_partisan_gerrymander_the_supreme_court_could_take_the_case.html

NC and a bunch of other states are likely hosed for over a decade if the SCOTUS alllows political Gerrymandering to remain since the odds of the GOP getting dislodged for the next census seems, rather unlikely.

e: Though there have been some mentions elsewhere that if it looks like the SCOTUS could rule 5-4 against Wisconsin they might just not appeal it at all so that only one state instead of all 50 would be affected.

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Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
This happened, I assume it's good?

http://www.wral.com/federal-court-orders-new-nc-legislative-elections-in-2017/16289906/

quote:

RALEIGH, N.C. — North Carolina lawmakers must redraw their legislative districts by March 15 and hold new elections by the end of next year, a federal court ruled Tuesday.

That order follows up on a ruling from this summer that found lawmakers had unconstitutionally relied on race when they drew 28 state House and Senate districts.

Although lawmakers had told the court they should be given more time to redraw their districts and should not have to hold elections until 2018, the three-judge panel disagreed.


Read more at http://www.wral.com/federal-court-orders-new-nc-legislative-elections-in-2017/16289906/#QHH16CtBq1hL58MK.99

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006


Well, off-year elections have been really lovely for Democrats recently. Hopefully Trump fucks things up badly enough in his first 9 months to rally voters.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
It'll also depend on how much the Dems have their poo poo together. If they want to actually prove they aren't completely worthless the DNC will make this their first (of many) salvos against the GOP and dump a ton of resources in to it. Especially if/when Cooper becomes governor and is able to keep the NCGOP from loving with voters too badly.

Asnorban
Jun 13, 2003

Professor Gavelsmoke


Evil Fluffy posted:

It'll also depend on how much the Dems have their poo poo together. If they want to actually prove they aren't completely worthless the DNC will make this their first (of many) salvos against the GOP and dump a ton of resources in to it. Especially if/when Cooper becomes governor and is able to keep the NCGOP from loving with voters too badly.

I've given up hope on the DNC proving any actual competence in down ballot or state races. They seem to be on trickle down advancement for the democratic party.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
Well we passed the 10,000 vote threshold at least.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
i'm really surprised how well this turned out

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Just in time for McCrory to score a cabinet position

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
Not out of the woods yet, they did vote to recount a certain group of Durham County votes:

https://twitter.com/ABC11_WTVD/status/804119576367636480

Likely will not change anything, but there is now at least a paper thin veneer of "contested" to go with if they decide to just hijack the GA.

(the board was 3-2 republican as if you needed to ask, but apparently the recount will not be by hand, meaning the final tally will be 99.9% identical)

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pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
This was their big argument by the way:

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/804118801394630656

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

wouldn't that be convenient if 10k votes were ineligible

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

tadashi posted:

Well, off-year elections have been really lovely for Democrats recently. Hopefully Trump fucks things up badly enough in his first 9 months to rally voters.

well the democrats may not take control of the state legislature but they will certainly break the veto-proof majorities with a new map, even if it's an off-off year election.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Concerned Citizen posted:

well the democrats may not take control of the state legislature but they will certainly break the veto-proof majorities with a new map, even if it's an off-off year election.

they're gonna stall as long as possible until trump gets his scotus nominee through then appeal all the way up and get rucho-lewis 3 reinstated

Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

lol

nyt ed board

North Carolina’s Sore Loser

fuck. marry. t-rex
Jan 23, 2014

Lipstick Apathy
"The number of votes per race exceeded the software limitation" lol at like 30% turnout to.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009
Probation
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:

"The number of votes per race exceeded the software limitation" lol at like 30% turnout to.

They probably figured their suppression was going to be more effective than it was. Though it was still extremely effective and if it happened nationwide would ensure Democrats can't win the POTUS without an Obama 2008-level turnout.

Coheed and Camembert
Feb 11, 2012
https://twitter.com/CraigJ_NandO/status/805192568548065280

https://twitter.com/RaleighReporter/status/805192852645019648

Lol eat poo poo, McCheese. He needs to accept that HB2 was a grave mistake that lost him his job and concede.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I'm hoping they can wrap this thing up before it's a month past the election this week. But God knows it will probably continue to drag on.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Coheed and Camembert posted:

Lol eat poo poo, McCheese. He needs to accept that HB2 was a grave mistake that lost him his job and concede.

never!

https://twitter.com/CraigJ_NandO/status/805232804653072385



FlamingLiberal posted:

I'm hoping they can wrap this thing up before it's a month past the election this week. But God knows it will probably continue to drag on.

the deadline for counties to certify their final vote is thursday

unless the feds decide to intervene, that's it

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FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



McCheese is holding a special session for the legislature in December which will likely be his last opportunity for the GOP to pack the state supreme court which just flipped to having a Democratic majority. There are rumors that he will make one last play to increase the number of judges on the court to 9 from 7 and quickly get two judges through before he has to leave office.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Remember when he was all smug and calling people whiners during the Moral Monday protests?

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy

FlamingLiberal posted:

McCheese is holding a special session for the legislature in December which will likely be his last opportunity for the GOP to pack the state supreme court which just flipped to having a Democratic majority. There are rumors that he will make one last play to increase the number of judges on the court to 9 from 7 and quickly get two judges through before he has to leave office.

This will end up being OK but Obama can't make a legitimate appointment because reasons

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

GobiasIndustries posted:

This will end up being OK but Obama can't make a legitimate appointment because reasons

Somehow he'll gently caress up and invoke Mitch McConnell's bullshit about "letting the voters choose".

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003

http://www.wral.com/cooper-picks-up-3-votes-mccrory-loses-1-in-durham-recount/16305879/ posted:

As of Sunday night, 53,000 votes had been recounted and the report said that Democrat Roy Cooper has picked up three votes while McCrory has lost one vote while the overall vote tally dropped by two.
This seems like a good use of time/money.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Well hey Mayor McCheese wanted this, so instead of gaining votes he has a net -4 votes

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Kind of relevant... yesterday on the way home from the track, local police officers blocked the road off and a state trooper pulled over a car. Both of the cops had their guns pulled and they successfully arrested two guys.

Did a search... and it came back with this: http://myfox8.com/2016/12/03/2-men-arrested-after-man-stabbed-at-kkk-meeting-at-nc-home/

e: i'm not sure due to the timing

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The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
was kinda hoping it'd be about that guy from salisbury who shot up the pizzagate place in dc

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


Phone posted:

Kind of relevant... yesterday on the way home from the track, local police officers blocked the road off and a state trooper pulled over a car. Both of the cops had their guns pulled and they successfully arrested two guys.

Did a search... and it came back with this: http://myfox8.com/2016/12/03/2-men-arrested-after-man-stabbed-at-kkk-meeting-at-nc-home/

e: i'm not sure due to the timing

link dead so what

Astroclassicist
Aug 21, 2015

https://twitter.com/RaleighReporter/status/805820474131419138

He's gone.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

This is almost a month late. What a baby.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

link dead so what

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article118925893.html

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Wow what a brave man, let's watch him pull the court shenanigans because he's literally a cartoon villain.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
Now all he has to do is not pack the court on the way out, and North Carolina will have a chance to succeed.

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
With this victory let's all stand for the National Anthem of North Carolina

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QrDOGcZDow

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003

pathetic little tramp posted:

Now all he has to do is not pack the court on the way out, and North Carolina will have a chance to succeed.

:lol: you must be new here.

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!
:woop:

Here's to the land of the long leaf pine,
The summer land where the sun doth shine,
Where the weak grow strong and the strong grow great,
Here's to "Down Home," the Old North State!
Here's to the land of the cotton bloom white,
Where the scuppernong perfumes the breeze at night,
Where the soft southern moss and jessamine mate,
'Neath the murmuring pines of the Old North State!
Here's to the land where the galax grows,
Where the rhododendron's rosette glows,
Where soars Mount Mitchell's summit great,
In the "Land of the Sky," in the Old North State!
Here's to the land where maidens are fair,
Where friends are true and cold hearts rare,
The near land, the dear land, whatever fate,
The blessed land, the best land, the Old North State!

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Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009
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It's a shame he's going to pack the supreme court otherwise NC would have a chance at recovering from his insanity.

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