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TinTower posted:Lib Dems loving walk it. You do know what "walking it" means right? Edit: Sailor 2nd Class Farron survived the Kursk.
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Labour lost their deposit. Couldn't have happened to a nicer man. e: Labour got less votes than they have members in the constituency. https://twitter.com/richmondclp/status/780110443188748288 TinTower fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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On the plus side, one less tory, on the downside, one tory derived MP product.
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, 2017 is almost certainly going to be worse.
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Grouchio posted:More worse for Britain, the US, Australia, or for Germany? Which country will have it worst? Germany? They seem to be in a comparatively decent place.
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Grouchio posted:More worse for Britain, the US, Australia, or for Germany? Which country will have it worst? The US with Britain a fairly close second, it probably won't be so great for France either.
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Baron Corbyn posted:Germany? They seem to be in a comparatively decent place.
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Hey the Tories didn't win! So what, a Lib Dem did and they've proven themselves to not give a gently caress about helping people just as much as the Tories.
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Not sure any of us know what the lib dems currently stand for. I doubt they are any where near as bad as the Tories who are currently doubling down on bullshit.
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In Richmond Park they stood against Brexit, didn't they?
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Brought a smile to my face, especially because it was zach goldsmith
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Regarde Aduck posted:Not sure any of us know what the lib dems currently stand for. Against leaving Europe. That's enough for now since the by-election isn't changing who's in government. The man on the joint Tory-UKIP ticket lost, and I for one am glad there's one less swivel-eyed Brexiter in parliament.
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Grouchio posted:What about those reactionaries that recently won big in Pommern? Looking to get about 10% of the vote. Merkel will still be chancellor this time next year for better or for worse.
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TinTower posted:Lib Dems loving walk it. congrats on your 9th MP
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Andrew Sachs has died. The involvement of Wossy and Russell Brand is unconfirmed. Edit: https://twitter.com/nakedmallrat/status/804589719854206976 Kegluneq fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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Milotic posted:She also supports some pretty abhorrent and nasty policies - this leaked today May drew up plans for children of illegal immigrants to go to the back of the queue for school places
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Trickjaw posted:Oh ffs, they are doing the conga on This Week. That show is one of the most embarrassing things on TV. It's a massive establishment circle-jerk with some of the cringiest sketches I've ever seen. The UKIP by Suzanne Evans was probably one of the worst. The most telling thing about the show is that Liz Kendall and Michael Portillo are the two regular weekly guests.
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So lib dems won on Brexit you say? This is my hot take on it - In Tory strongholds, Labour should back off. Let the lib dems fight tories on brexit. They'll lose since the dyed-in-the-wool Tory voters want brexit anyway, but there's a big glut of middle class floaters who would switch to an anti brexit party. In the working class areas Labour has previously lost they can campaign on poo poo that isn't brexit. They have to mention it, but let the focus of the campaign be jobs, houses, hospitals and schools. Come election time, rely on tory votes in middle class areas turning yellow, and labour retaking places that have gone a bit UKIP. Labour win a majority, or minority government + lib dem sup and confidence. Labour sacrifice some sort of brexit vote/rereferrendum to the lib dems in return for support on a pile of good policy. By this point brexit is hurting enough that people vote smartly. Society is saved, the tories are banished to the shadow realm, the lib dems become the new, slightly less awful opposition.
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You seem to be operating under the illusion that Labour are anti Brexit. Labour are not anti Brexit.
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Pissflaps posted:You seem to be operating under the illusion that Labour are anti Brexit. Labour are not anti Brexit. He's saying that the Labour should let the Lib Dems be the anti-Brexit party.
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I know - so why would a Brexit supporting Labour Party want an anti Brexit party to gain power?
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pissflaps i think you need to accept brexit is happening and stop moaning about labours position on it
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Also at this point the Lib Dems are basically a single issue pro-EU party. I couldn't tell you a single one of their other positions. That might work in Richmond Park where 70% of people voted Remain but it's probably not a great plan for countrywide electoral success. There's a telling point in the BBC article about the result where Olney says that she'll vote against triggered Article 50, only for the BBC to point out that this won't actually matter.
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Jose posted:pissflaps i think you need to accept brexit is happening and stop moaning about labours position on it The Lib Dems just won an election on the strength of opposing it. It's worth opposing it if only to try to lessen the effects of a hard Brexit. 'Stop moaning' is the language of UKIP. Amusing how quickly Labour's endorsement of the process has adjusted your attitude towards it. MikeCrotch posted:Also at this point the Lib Dems are basically a single issue pro-EU party. I couldn't tell you a single one of their other positions. That might work in Richmond Park where 70% of people voted Remain but it's probably not a great plan for countrywide electoral success. So that's one more than Labour then.
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MikeCrotch posted:Also at this point the Lib Dems are basically a single issue pro-EU party. I couldn't tell you a single one of their other positions. That might work in Richmond Park where 70% of people voted Remain but it's probably not a great plan for countrywide electoral success. It's the only plan. If the LibDems can pick up votes from pro-Remain Tories, and left-wingers can overcome their nausea and memories of 2010 enough to vote for the swine, the Tories could lose a lot of seats to the LibDems that Labour have never had a hope of winning (see: the south west). That is how Labour got majorities before. But I don't think it will happen unless Labour makes some at least semi-official deal with the LibDems, because the nausea is strong.
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This is your friendly occasional 2016 status update! Time until Brexit begins: 119 days Time until Donald Trump becomes president: 49 days Time until the Austrian elections: 2 days Number of times in history having far-right Austrians in power has worked out well: Zero Alan Rickman status: Still dead Hail Satan
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Well, it is good Goldsmith lost. It is bad that idiots put faith in the liberals again but I guess it is just a by-election and people wanted to make a point on Brexit. Still, a Liberal won & that's bad. It slows down the dream of their gradual annihilation. And obviously my prediction was horrifically wrong, which is the real reason I'm sad at seeing the Liberal elected. TinTower posted:Some historical context for Richmond Park: Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder what the context could have been to cause Labour to revel in the defeat of Liberals in 1983. Could it because because of the whole SDP split I wonder? But no, of course Labour members were just overjoyed for the Tories to win, context is for mugs. Pissflaps posted:Have the Lib Dem colours gone a lot more orangey? Its just to reflect their favourite book which drives their economic policy. jabby posted:I'm the biggest Corbyn fan out there and I'd still vote Lib Dem in that seat. It's one of those occasions where tactical voting makes the most sense. lol the Lib Dem candidate said she thought Theresa May was someone she could work with. Can't believe people fell for that "progressive alliance" bollocks. Sure, some Liberal candidates would fit into a progressive alliance, but far more are Orange Bookers these days. MikeCrotch posted:Also at this point the Lib Dems are basically a single issue pro-EU party. I couldn't tell you a single one of their other positions. That might work in Richmond Park where 70% of people voted Remain but it's probably not a great plan for countrywide electoral success. Oh, that's easy. Get power at any price, gently caress the poor, gently caress their own voting base with policies, get real chummy with the Tories. How soon we forget. Pissflaps posted:The Lib Dems just won an election on the strength of opposing it. It's worth opposing it if only to try to lessen the effects of a hard Brexit. The Lib Dems just won an election in an area where Remain won on the strength of opposing Brexit. A lot of Labour territory didn't vote so overwhelmingly for Remain. You know this. That said, yes, Labour should be doing more publicly to oppose Brexit because Brexit will be a loving car crash that will do short, medium & long term damage to the UK.
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Zephro posted:This is your friendly occasional 2016 status update! should include the italian referendum and the french elections here pissflaps my position has not changed because of what labour are doing i said after the referendum that its poo poo but happening
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forkboy84 posted:That said, yes, Labour should be doing more publicly to oppose Brexit because Brexit will be a loving car crash that will do short, medium & long term damage to the UK. Again: Labour does not oppose Brexit. Jose posted:pissflaps my position has not changed because of what labour are doing i said after the referendum that its poo poo but happening All those Bremoaners need to shut up, right? Pissflaps fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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the EU is dead anyway before brexit has actually happened but it was voted for. the people should never have been given the vote but here we are
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Jose posted:the EU is dead anyway before brexit has actually happened That's another Kipperism: is there something you want to share, Jose?
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my uncle voted ukip for reasons that have nothing to do with brexit which is confusing to me i mean i'll probably be wrong but i think with the way things are going frexit and whatever italian exit will be called are likely. the french now have a choice of a gently caress immigrants far right candidate and a "i'll make you work 30% longer" far right candidate
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i can't believe i'm going to be punished by the new porn laws because some australian goon bought an anal dildo pump and posted a photo of his prolapsed arse in gbs
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Labour should oppose brexit because it will be (and already is) a disaster for the working class and poor here and worldwide.
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Jose posted:i can't believe i'm going to be punished by the new porn laws because some australian goon bought an anal dildo pump and posted a photo of his prolapsed arse in gbs Enjoy your eternal cop torture you loving filthmonger Make Britane Strong Again
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apparently he also posted his dick after sounding but i didn't see that fortunately
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australia was a mistake
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XMNN posted:australia was a mistake Another example of a failed British experiment that can't be gone back on.
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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Zephro posted:This is your friendly occasional 2016 status update! 147 days until the French elections start!
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