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Vargatron posted:I tend to blame conservative media for making it easy to not apply critical thinking due to claims of "liberal bias". Facts are irrelevant in the face of media distrust. Sometimes the same co-worker who brings up disprovable lies or conspiracy theories will respond to your correction reply with "You don't always have to be right!" Really, what's the point of having any discussion about news or politics for those types? You shouldn't read that stuff to feel comfortable
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Vargatron posted:If only there were some piece of legislation that would require journalists to report both sides of a story... They already do this for TV media routinely, but it's awful without strict controls on what counts as an engagement-worthy "side of the issue" The industry flack-man or the paranoid silver-eating "concerned citizen" might deserve acknowledgement, but there's already too much engagement where they're granted equal footing in a two-sided discussion against actual experts. The anchors and hosts have been choosing to have fruitless kabuki discussions which always end with INTERESTING, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE
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Silver2195 posted:The Fairness Doctrine was and is a terrible idea. The government shouldn't be in the business of determining whether news media has been fair to "both sides," or even when there are two meaningful sides of an issue to begin with. Do you really want the FCC under Trump having that kind of power? That's what I was shooting for in replying to Vargatron too. We already end up treating low-value splinters as 'sides' to a discussion (often ignoring other, actual, sides) and I imagine it'd get even worse while adding a FAIR CERTIFIED stamp on bad media.
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Toplowtech posted:but yeah the effort to censor it off the internet in the name of fighting against FAKE NEWS(it's more of an admission classical media are unable to fight lovely conspiracy theories than anything else), is just going to allow it to spread with an aura of "so true, it's getting censored", it doesn't deserve. Not that reasserting reality is helped when you've got an incoming Trump admin choice's son spreading #pizzagate poo poo. He really struck gold with the Flynn pick.
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rkajdi posted:When people start physically attacking Ted Cruz for being the Zodiac Killer, you might have a point. These lies are specifically set up to punish someone for standard political involvement, with the punishment being death. I'd say that's as far from the Zodiac Killer joke as you can get. Yeah, it's important to remember that the TC zodiac killer was a comedy option for a PPP poll, and PPP almost always has comedy options included as a harmless way to grab attention. Cruz's dad was actually singled out by Donald Trump as a JFK killing conspirator. One is a comedy meme for internet progressives with no actual depth to belief or support or conspiracy, the other is a reckless claim by a political figure whose only defense is his habitual lying. "Many people are saying" or "I didn't mean that literally" about simple, literal claims, again and again.
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Potato Salad posted:Are these headlines being fair? The man carried his gun across state lines to investigate what Pizzagate proponents would tell you (and did tell him) is a den of child trafficking murderpedos, and threatened employees before firing his gun in the restaurant. I don't know what part of the headline would be unfair or untrue, based on current information. What missing piece of the puzzle do you imagine will add the needed context? Pizzagate itself is fake news (or, at best a conspiracy joke, spread to and thriving in an unwell community), a deranged man taking fake news seriously and endangering others is real news.
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