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slap me and kiss me posted:Cav kinda needs her shotgun for hatches though. Impact grenades work too.
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SpazmasterX posted:Impact grenades work too. Dont wanna waste those on hatches because I might actually need them for a rotation during the round.
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Ask someone during set-up to break them with their own impacts (rook etc) or shotgun (smoke)
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I much prefer the SMG on Cav because without it she's got no long range threat.
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Deltasquid posted:Ask someone during set-up to break them with their own impacts (rook etc) or shotgun (smoke) Could work. I like to pop every hatch on the map that doesn't lead to obj, which would be difficult for slow defenders. Not the worst idea though.
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Cav's shotty is good for making small floorholes to cover doors and windows, though. If I wanted range, I wouldn't be playing Cav. Iirc, Compensator reduces horizontal recoil heavily, Flash Hider vert/horizontal moderately for 3~5 bullets, and Muzzle Brake vert/horizontal heavily for the first shot in a burst. You'll have to see which guns you prefer long bursts with, and which guns you usually just tap.
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Caffeine IV posted:Cav's shotty is good for making small floorholes to cover doors and windows, though. If I wanted range, I wouldn't be playing Cav. Cav's pistol is also occasionally surprisingly good at range. Not always, but every now and then.
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Hiding a second welcome mat under the corpse of a first welcome mat is surprisingly effective and rage inducing.
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Silencers are cool but most of the things that make them good are mitigated by communication
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I use silencers on all shotguns that take can them. Not for any practical reason, but just because I love going PFUT PFUT PFUT. 
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Fart Car '97 posted:Silencers are cool but most of the things that make them good are mitigated by communication Nah it is very hard to tell where you are getting shot from if a defender is attacking you with the silencer as opposed to everyone pretty much immediately pinpointing where you are at when you fire unsuppressed shots. It also changes the recoil pattern which I prefer on some guns because it makes it easier to headshot.
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Thief posted:also after a certain patch some extended barrels were tested and proven to do literally nothing at all except make your gun harder to hide Frost is the only operator I run extended barrel on. I've seen it suggested that I just run the gun with a stock barrel. Extended barrel does make the gun easier to see, but I think the minor benefit of having it take one or two less bodyshots for a kill at range is worth it. If the gun had a faster firerate I'd probably not use the extended barrel. Wooper posted:If you want to find out which muzzle attachment is the best for a specific gun you need to test both the flash hider and compensator yourself to see which works best with how you handle the recoil and the burst sizes you use. It's not going to be muzzle break for any non semi-auto gun or the extended barrel for pretty much any gun. In order to do that, you have to go through a long and torturous process. This image (http://i.imgur.com/u3bcxLZ.png) that was linked previously suggests muzzle brake on the UMP. After testing it, I can say it works really well. But how was I able to tell it was better than flash hider? It's simple. In order to test the difference between a flash hider and a muzzle break on the UMP, all I had to to do was go to the operator screen, select my operator, select the loadout button, select my gun, select the attachment section, select flash hider, unlock flash hider, select muzzle brake, unlock muzzle break, go to the play menu, select multiplayer, select custom game, select local, create, select custom playlist, start custom match, wait to load in, select my gun, confirm, wait 15 seconds for prep time, fire my gun at the dummies until I decide if I liked it or ran out of ammo, and then exit the match, select the play button, select local, create, select custom playlist, start custom match, wait to load in, select my gun, select my attachment, confirm, wait 15 seconds for prep time, fire my gun at the dummies until I decide if I like it or run out of ammo, and then exit the match. So for all the other guns, I either tested them by using it in a real match or blindly following the advice of people on the internet.
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attachments are dirt cheap in this game so even a starter edition player should field test them on their favorite operators. certain characters/loadouts will have you shooting in tiny bursts. others will have you dumping 30 rounds at a time before needing to adjust for recoil. loadouts that work for your MVP spawn peeking jager/vigil might not be what's best for your role on the given map and game mode. the rabbit hole goes deeper if you like to play DMR and/or use semiauto toggles at the end of the day i think these are for min/maxing and attachments shouldn't be why you are winning or losing even though fine tuned cyber athletes statistically tend to favor one thing or the other. and unless you plan on solo climbing into diamond none of this actually matters imo. silencers work for me because i tend to focus on hit n' roam harassment. it doesn't matter if you can't land perfect head shots when you're using map knowledge to pick and choose you battles. for such a claustrophobic game there are actually very few dead ends in siege maps. the sound design in this game is loving incredible and you can absolutely exploit it to make up for not getting headshots 24/7 just watch out for jackal mains because they specialize in countering players that rely too heavily on this tactic Perestroika posted:I use silencers on all shotguns that take can them. Not for any practical reason, but just because I love going PFUT PFUT PFUT. https://media0.giphy.com/media/cWa9fcfSnxkhG/giphy.webm it's also best to use silencers on the last round because there is an mvp screen at the end of each match and sometimes it just works well with your cyber barbie outfit (see: double silencer reflex sights on splinter cell jager because he don't need no acog) the general perception of silencers is that they reduce too much damage to be effective but this is a game that lets you kill people in 1-3 hits so if you are focusing on getting the jump on people silencers will let you clown tryhards that only play 3 speed glass cannon peekers.
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Perestroika posted:I use silencers on all shotguns that take can them. Not for any practical reason, but just because I love going PFUT PFUT PFUT. Same. Also all pistols/secondaries should have silencers. No reason to make a racket when you're taking out a camera or a drone.
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The discord link on the first page seems to have expired. Can someone post a new one?
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Polka_Rapper posted:Frost is the only operator I run extended barrel on. I've seen it suggested that I just run the gun with a stock barrel. Extended barrel does make the gun easier to see, but I think the minor benefit of having it take one or two less bodyshots for a kill at range is worth it. If the gun had a faster firerate I'd probably not use the extended barrel. She's the only op I run a silencer on. There was a table posted a while back thst shows her SMG takes the same number of shots to kill regardless of whether it's on or off until you get to a really long range- so basically the opposite of the extended barrel. Since most engagements are closer ranges I think it's more valuable. She's my highest k/d op too by a big margin and I don't think it's entirely due to the traps, her gun is just so easy to control.
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pedro0930 posted:The discord link on the first page seems to have expired. Can someone post a new one? https://discord.gg/MCQvh79
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Koramei posted:She's the only op I run a silencer on. There was a table posted a while back thst shows her SMG takes the same number of shots to kill regardless of whether it's on or off until you get to a really long range- so basically the opposite of the extended barrel. Since most engagements are closer ranges I think it's more valuable. I was gonna post about pretty much using the silencer with Frost's C9 because it is scary good. Now that I have her blood orchid skin I roam so much, and her gun is straight gratifying to shoot with a silencer
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Koramei posted:She's the only op I run a silencer on. There was a table posted a while back thst shows her SMG takes the same number of shots to kill regardless of whether it's on or off until you get to a really long range- so basically the opposite of the extended barrel. Since most engagements are closer ranges I think it's more valuable. Penpal posted:I was gonna post about pretty much using the silencer with Frost's C9 because it is scary good. Now that I have her blood orchid skin I roam so much, and her gun is straight gratifying to shoot with a silencer Well, I'll have to give that a shot. I really like her gun but I do end up anchoring with her most of the time.
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keyframe posted:Here you go: Not sure why I played this game for 70 hours before trying it with goons. Gotta love being carried 
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I'm giving ranked a try and oh boy. I seem to be getting matched up with people way more skilled than I am so I'm having about as much fun as doing my taxes.
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Sprechensiesexy posted:I'm giving ranked a try and oh boy. I seem to be getting matched up with people way more skilled than I am so I'm having about as much fun as doing my taxes. Are you still in placement matches?
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Jack Trades posted:Are you still in placement matches? Yeah, but the placement seems 5 relatively new players vs 5 veterans on cocaine and adderall
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Sprechensiesexy posted:Yeah, but the placement seems 5 relatively new players vs 5 veterans on cocaine and adderall You should basically be expecting to lose all 10 placement matches. It probably decides your rank by matching you as if you had a hypothetical high rank and then if you get destroyed it lowers it a bit and watches what happens then, so if you're in the wood league, or whatever, you'll just get matched into unfair matches all 10 times.
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Always put your claymore down, no matter how useless the position appears.  https://i.imgur.com/YiUztkJ.mp4
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Jack Trades posted:You should basically be expecting to lose all 10 placement matches. Well if it gets better I don't mind. The 13 year old foul mouthed southern europeans on casual that started to bother me seem to be absent in ranked.
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Sprechensiesexy posted:Well if it gets better I don't mind. The 13 year old foul mouthed southern europeans on casual that started to bother me seem to be absent in ranked. sweet summer child
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Sprechensiesexy posted:Well if it gets better I don't mind. The 13 year old foul mouthed southern europeans on casual that started to bother me seem to be absent in ranked. It will get better once the game has a idea of your mmr. I have great ranked games %99 of the time when I solo queue with pubbies.
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So if I missed out on all of season 2 whats the best way to get all the operators? is there a bundle in game like with season 1 or do I need to buy the gold edition with the season 2 characters?
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asterioth posted:So if I missed out on all of season 2 whats the best way to get all the operators? is there a bundle in game like with season 1 or do I need to buy the gold edition with the season 2 characters? Play games and get renown
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SpazmasterX posted:Play games and get renown Unless they bumped the amount of renown you get up by a shitload I dont hate myself enough to grind out 25K x 8 ops.
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I'm pretty sure the year 2 op bundle will come out once the new year of content starts in February and it will probably be 20$
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Penpal posted:I'm pretty sure the year 2 op bundle will come out once the new year of content starts in February The year 2 operator bundle's been out for at least a while. I got it weeks ago.
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Got gifted the starter edition of the game and put a few hours in and love the game. Whats the easiest or best way to start upgrading my way up in terms of operators? Or which ones are the good ones from each season?
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Got gifted the starter edition of the game and put a few hours in and love the game. Whats the easiest or best way to start upgrading my way up in terms of operators? Or which ones are the good ones from each season? The best way is to go buy the regular edition of the game or good luck. Starter edition is poo poo.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Got gifted the starter edition of the game and put a few hours in and love the game. Whats the easiest or best way to start upgrading my way up in terms of operators? Or which ones are the good ones from each season? You coud buy Year 1 and 2 operator bundle but I have a feeling it will end up being more expensive than buying a discounted Complete edition,
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Got gifted the starter edition of the game and put a few hours in and love the game. Whats the easiest or best way to start upgrading my way up in terms of operators? Or which ones are the good ones from each season? Starter edition is basically a scam, so you'll be grinding for some time. If you like the game enough I'd just throw more cash at it to unlock operators with credits. It's about 20 bucks worth or R6 credits to buy the Y1 or Y2 operator bundle, so buy one or both of those. The DLC operators are all pretty good but some of them are twists on the base game operators and you won't really "need" them. Don't buy castle nor tachanka Buy either rook or doc, but not both, they're super similar load-out and in role Ash and jäger are top tier and never bad picks If you buy the Y1 operators, don't get sledge, because Buck is really similar If you buy the Y1 operators, don't get Thermite, because Hibana fulfills the same role I'd say, if you're willing to spend 20 bucks but not 40, to go for the Y1 operators. The Year 2 ones are fun but more situational, I feel, whereas there is some overlap between Y1 and base game operators in terms of playing style or role. EDIT: a discounted Complete Edition is definitely the best value for your money right now. In terms of time saved, you're better off working an hour overtime at your job and shelling out the extra bucks to just buy the whole package.
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