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You know, when you think about it, the simplest reason why Inf's vig failed to kill Tobbs is because he lied about ever using it.
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i told u i was hardcore
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this is a stickup posted:interesting. guess he used that on slasher. pretty good move. More that he used the perish song on i am the bird and then suicided onto Slasher.
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Dec 17, 2016 08:43
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SirSamVimes posted:More that he used the perish song on i am the bird and then suicided onto Slasher. ah, thanks for clarifying exactly what exactly you guys did. I was assuming he used it on slasher to avoid a bomb death, then the other scum killed bird last night.
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I think that i am the bird evolved after the claimed vig too? So there's not way he used his one shot to save Tobbs.
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this is a stickup posted:ah, thanks for clarifying exactly what exactly you guys did. I was assuming he used it on slasher to avoid a bomb death, then the other scum killed bird last night. Oh nevermind, I misread how the ability worked. I thought it was *if* you die, the targetted player dies.
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SirSamVimes posted:Oh nevermind, I misread how the ability worked. I thought it was *if* you die, the targetted player dies. are you willing you to take one for the team and "win" with the town (as you're an anti-scum role), even if it means you technically losing
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Dec 17, 2016 09:02
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I mean I'm gonna keep playing for the town because scum winning before they kill me would mean a loss. Given that there's probably two scum remaining, I can't even try to make a deal where I vote with them if they promise to kill me in the night because I'm pretty sure I'd be endgamed before the night even happens. 
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Dec 17, 2016 09:07
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So of Infinitum, stickup and DB, two have got to be scum. I mean it's possible that only one is, but in a game this size I'd guess two especially seeing as IS was willing to sacrifice himself to get the kills.
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I've had stickup pegged for town for a bit, probably need to re-read him to make sure though. DickBastardly I had listed as "2 dumb 4 scum" for a while, but he has done no scum hunting since then so I'm leaning scumbo at the moment. Inf I also need to re-read but he pushed Tobbs' really hard (probably harder than he needed to be pushed frankly). He also claims his vig failed but I don't think there have been any roles flipped yet that explain it so it seems like a lie to me. SSV claimed 3p bodyguard who wins when he blocks a scum kill and only a scum kill. Its a super weird claim and the fact that he still has failed to meet his wincon or be night killed is extremely suspicious. Currently leaning SSV/DB for scum team.
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Dec 17, 2016 09:23
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Also re: DB, he was the only person who disagreed with testing the mason claim. I don't think there was any doubt that we needed to kill one of us to guarantee our alignment at that point so it seems like something he set up so he could "Aha! Told you they were town!" later on or make me think he was town or something I dunno.
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Dec 17, 2016 09:26
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Y'know, the fact that I haven't been killed yet makes me suspicious of Infinitum. I've been guarding him a bunch, so what if they've been leaving me alone because they know I've been guarding a scumbo?
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Dec 17, 2016 09:40
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It's easy to not get night killed when you are the one doing the killing
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Yeah but I'm not scum tho
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I'm not creative enough to come up with 3p bodyguard as a fakeclaim
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Dec 17, 2016 09:48
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I'm reading the thread and I just realized that water is like the only type that hasn't shown up in gym advantages or disadvantages. steel, ground, and electric have all shown up and apparently no one even has those types. this is discrimination, pmush
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Dec 17, 2016 09:49
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SirSamVimes posted:I'm not creative enough to come up with 3p bodyguard as a fakeclaim you wouldn't have to if someone in the scumdoc did 
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Dec 17, 2016 09:50
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I would have been willing to put more faith in you but that response to "would you help the town win even if it meant you technically losing" was pretty bad tbh
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Dec 17, 2016 09:52
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this is a stickup posted:I would have been willing to put more faith in you but that response to "would you help the town win even if it meant you technically losing" was pretty bad tbh blunt honesty is bad these days?
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Dec 17, 2016 09:53
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no the honesty is good, but unfortunately that doesn't put me in a position where I can trust you to take an action that might make you lose to let us win
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Dec 17, 2016 09:56
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what action can I take that would get me a win and the town a loss? My only possible hope is to lynch a scumbo today and die in the night which is pro-town.
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Dec 17, 2016 09:59
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oh wait, actually I can still make a deal with scum you really shouldn't have poked me because that made me start actually thinking about how to do it
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Dec 17, 2016 10:01
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##vote no lynch I hope you kindly return the favour, friendly scumbos. Kill me, and we all win together.
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Dec 17, 2016 10:01
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there is an almost foolproof scenario for the town and you both to win, yes, but you still are left with a chance of losing. higher odds than this strategy though.
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Dec 17, 2016 10:07
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On one hand, I can hope to win a coin flip to win. On the other, I can hope that scum are cool dudes.
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Dec 17, 2016 10:09
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SirSamVimes posted:##vote no lynch How does this make you win? You explicitly stated you had to actually block a kill in order to win.
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Dec 17, 2016 10:11
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SirSamVimes posted:I'm gonna do something dumb.
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Dec 17, 2016 10:13
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Truth Quark posted:How does this make you win? You explicitly stated you had to actually block a kill in order to win. I fudged the truth because I was worried that scum would try to deny me the win if they knew that directly killing me would cause me to win.
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it doesn't. he still has to flip a coin to win, and the coin isn't in his hands anymore. I'm surprised he hadn't come up with a multitude of plans early on for ways to win by working with the scum instead of against, but based on this strategy, I think I get why
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Dec 17, 2016 10:13
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So it's a infin/db scumteam? That was a really good bus, Infinitum.
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that's even worse poorly breadcrumb doc or cop on day 1 and you've won
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Dec 17, 2016 10:14
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3p bodyguard that wins by getting NK'd or by blocking a scum kill and thus dying. I don't suppose you'd also win if you blocked an SK or vig kill?
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Dec 17, 2016 10:15
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Nah I was telling the truth that it has to be scum.
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unless it's really only one of them, in which case your strategy is double hosed. with this many 3p players, it's quite possible, especially considering the fact that our roles were all gated
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Dec 17, 2016 10:16
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Raises the interesting question of what'd happen if scum and a vig/sk both targetted me.
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You're claim is ridiculous and I'm probably voting you today, but I'd like to hear what others have to say.
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Dec 17, 2016 10:16
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Truth Quark posted:You're claim is ridiculous and I'm probably voting you today, but I'd like to hear what others have to say. if I was lying, what possible benefit could I get from voting no lynch? Doing this 100% relies on there being two scum to hop onto the vote.
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dear friends db and inf, if you're both scum, let's all vote ssv. you guys get to win and we get to deny ssv together!
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Truth Quark posted:You know, when you think about it, the simplest reason why Inf's vig failed to kill Tobbs is because he lied about ever using it. I had been thinking the same thing about inf and his vig for a while bird saved you with his one shot. I had him and me pegged as the doc/cop as soon pretty early on after the types were all revealed, as it was clear that the two of us + tobbs (assumed jailer at the time) were the starters. dunno how bird jumped to the conclusion that IS was a cop. what? I brought up the starter 3 in the thread hoping to give him a hint in case he hadn't realized yet, as he knew one of the 3 was the doctor Inf pushed extremely hard to flip a mason, when a cop could have cleared them both with one investigation. this is why I wanted you to actually cooperate so you wouldn't get lynched that day. defended DB for seemingly no reason, and put him in the gym when it would not actually test his claim. reading the whole thing with IS's claim felt like an inf way of thinking to me, and pushing very hard to turbo him later also is completely fine if he knows IS is going to die anyway why did people believe a "2x nightcop 1x daycop" with a result of "scum" anyway? think about it for more than a second. there are a poo poo load of 3p players in this game, apparently. non town is the result I'd get, which is far more appropriate than scum. all you had to do was wait a few hours for me to get off work, but nooope, gotta go fast
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