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Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard


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SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Toblakai posted:

But we cannot loving finish implementing render to texture ... Seriously, what is this groundbreaking stuff they mention every once in a while?
Star Citizen: we cannot loving finish

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
lol I wish I could do this for a paycheck. Whose funding has it George soros?

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Star Citizen: space retardatiom

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





quote:

I think that "Planetary Tech" is not necessarily the same thing as "Planetary Tech."

/r/starcitizen, ladies and gentlemen.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Star citizen : a bunch of fully fleshed out tools

Toblakai
Jul 11, 2017

drat Dirty Ape posted:

Functioning doors.

Only in cgobblers' dreams.

SelenicMartian posted:

Star Citizen: we cannot loving finish

vs Derek 'Let me loving finish' Smart, who is gonna win? Tune in in two weeks to see the Star Citizen and E.L.E delays

Ayn Marx
Dec 21, 2012

I am delighted by the sadness and suffering of these Star Citizens

aleksendr
May 14, 2014

Sarsapariller posted:

Rating: 2.5 terrible game decision canaries out of 5.

Its better than the observed failure rate of videogame kickstarter(3.4 out of 5) so in a way you managed to beat the market.

Maybe some of the people you financed will learn from their mistakes and deliver on the second or 3rd project.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Star Citizen: Did we use this delay excuse yet?

notoriousman
Nov 18, 2007

I'M AWARE I'M
AN IDIOT

Beet Wagon posted:

/r/starcitizen, ladies and gentlemen.

"It depends on what the meaning of 'is' is..."

I'm glad Derek's prediction of an ELE two weeks ago is finally coming true 18 months later.

crisp roberts
Oct 13, 2016
Lol, theyre going to make a fake demo for gamescom, backers regain faith and give money. Last summer was no different from today.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
This next few weeks is going to be a bloodbath

crisp roberts
Oct 13, 2016
Also, "soulcrusher" is the second best internet name, right after "DragonSlayer666"

notoriousman
Nov 18, 2007

I'M AWARE I'M
AN IDIOT
They could just as easily fail to cobble together some fake, scripted demo and talk about some Discord knock-off for over an hour during their annual namesake convention (for a game still in alpha). Backers would still fork over cash, of course.

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Toblakai posted:

But we cannot loving finish implementing render to texture ... Seriously, what is this groundbreaking stuff they mention every once in a while?

If I recall correctly, some random guy made a Glide rendering wrapper for Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction which has render to texture as an option, even :doh:

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer
Fun fact: While trying to learn about modding Stellaris, I found at least 3 mods on the Steam Workshop which all add in 1 system each from the Star Citizen lore into Stellaris. That means Stellaris now has at least 3 times as many Star Citizen systems implemented as Star Citizen does. This amuses me greatly.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Bofast posted:

Fun fact: While trying to learn about modding Stellaris, I found at least 3 mods on the Steam Workshop which all add in 1 system each from the Star Citizen lore into Stellaris. That means Stellaris now has at least 3 times as many Star Citizen systems implemented as Star Citizen does. This amuses me greatly.

:lol:

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Milky Moor posted:

SC2 made money, sure. But lots of bad things make heaps of money. I'd be curious to see the sales numbers for Wings of Liberty VS Heart of the Swarm VS Legacy of the Void.

SC2, by just about every other metric, fell short of what Blizzard wanted. The fact that SC1 is still better regarded and was still selling copies is more than enough proof that they got something wrong. I'll just copy/paste what I said from the Starcraft HD thread.

Yeah, Blizzard is a very odd bird in the whole gaming market. They own some of the most recognised and successful IP:s ever to the point where they've essentially invented a couple of national sports that draws six-digit arena crowds (and eight-digit viewerships).

It's kind of funny that when citizens point to, say, SC2 and the time and money that went into making that compared to how much CIG has spent, they kind of have a (very confused) point: for Blizzard, the time and cost of Star Citizen qualify as a “hobby R&D” expenditure. But that's because, whatever they put on the market will make money. Lots of it. They have the customer base that rivals the population of middle-to-large countries and they actually take time to try to figure out what all those people want and how to hone that gameplay. Even the “unpolished” and “disliked” SC2 is leagues beyond what most games can afford simply because Blizzard not only can but must afford it, or their numbers won't add up.

It's just that, when you're operating on their level, a “failure” is a game that only sells kajillions of copies — to be a success, it has to be in the umptygazillion range and make at least one more industrial nation completely beholden to the company.

Tippis fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jul 30, 2017

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Bofast posted:

Fun fact: While trying to learn about modding Stellaris, I found at least 3 mods on the Steam Workshop which all add in 1 system each from the Star Citizen lore into Stellaris. That means Stellaris now has at least 3 times as many Star Citizen systems implemented as Star Citizen does. This amuses me greatly.

:laffo: I wish I could make this entire post the new thread title.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
Stellaris is what Star Citisn't

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Tippis posted:

Yeah, Blizzard is a very odd bird in the whole gaming market. They own some of the most recognised and successful IP:s ever to the point where they've essentially invented a couple of national sports that draws six-digit arena crowds (and eight-digit viewerships).

It's kind of funny that when citizens point to, say, SC2 and the time and money that went into making that compared to how much CIG has spent, they kind of have a (very confused) point: for Blizzard, the time and cost of Star Citizen qualify as a “hobby R&D” expenditure. But that's because, whatever they put on the market will make money. Lots of it. They have the customer base that rivals the population of middle-to-large countries and they actually take time to try to figure out what all those people want and how to hone that gameplay. Even the “unpolished” and “disliked” SC2 is leagues beyond what most games can afford simply because Blizzard not only can but [i]must8/i] afford it, or their numbers won't add up.

It's just that, when you're operating on their level, a “failure” is a game that only sells kajillions of copies — to be a success, it has to be in the umptygazillion range and make at least one more industrial nation completely beholden to the company.

Remember they wasted $50 million on Titan, a new MMO, in dev for several years, and they owned up and said it was poo poo and turned that into Overwatch.
A game with 30 million + active players right now

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

peter gabriel posted:

Stellaris is what Star Citisn't

:thurman:

Kromlech
Jun 28, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
What if we boycotted posting in this thread until 3.0 is out?










Nah

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Bofast posted:

Fun fact: While trying to learn about modding Stellaris, I found at least 3 mods on the Steam Workshop which all add in 1 system each from the Star Citizen lore into Stellaris. That means Stellaris now has at least 3 times as many Star Citizen systems implemented as Star Citizen does. This amuses me greatly.

This is fantastic.

On the other hand, it's downright depressing, because the Star Citizen "lore" is complete and utter poo poo - it defines the absolute bottom of what lore can be. Literally any other game is a step up. Yet, people are latching onto it and importing it into other games.

Possible reasons include:

1) They actually like the lore (this is not likely, even for Citizens)
2) They want to play Star Citizen so badly they're building it themselves with other games (more likely)
3) It's a form of magical thinking - if they talk about Star Citizen as often as possible, and bring it into other games, and it shows up everywhere, that "makes it real" and now Star Citizen will become a real thing. (This is almost certainly it.)

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007


You've interfered for the last time!"
Hell Gem
Would sound better with pineapple.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003

peter gabriel posted:

Stellaris is what Star Citisn't
You should make a new video claiming to have access to the SECRET SC DEV BUILD and go to all those planets in Stellaris.

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

peter gabriel posted:

Stellaris is what Star Citisn't

:golfclap:

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

thatguy posted:

You should make a new video claiming to have access to the SECRET SC DEV BUILD and go to all those planets in Stellaris.

Oooooooooo!

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.


Do it.


Now.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
You obviously got the build from a late night .cfg hacking session with Derek and the boys.

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer
Heh, good time in the Star Citizen subreddit





e: ooh yeah :synpa:




his nibs fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Jul 30, 2017

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Beet, is the FPS game actually that stuttery or was that an issue with the stream?

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

his nibs posted:

Heh, good time in the Star Citizen subreddit


There's a lot of posts like this lately and it's quite funny. A lot of them would be happy posting in here.

This also happened last year just before the mass delusion was once again reinforced by a scripted demo and a whole lot of empty promises. It will probably work again, they are ignorant of the technology and heavily invested socially and financially. This combination produces the most extreme gullibility possible.

Kromlech
Jun 28, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Spatial posted:

Beet, is the FPS game actually that stuttery or was that an issue with the stream?
it was beet's pc meeting star marine's lack of optimization

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Tippis posted:

Yeah, Blizzard is a very odd bird in the whole gaming market. They own some of the most recognised and successful IP:s ever to the point where they've essentially invented a couple of national sports that draws six-digit arena crowds (and eight-digit viewerships).

It's kind of funny that when citizens point to, say, SC2 and the time and money that went into making that compared to how much CIG has spent, they kind of have a (very confused) point: for Blizzard, the time and cost of Star Citizen qualify as a “hobby R&D” expenditure. But that's because, whatever they put on the market will make money. Lots of it. They have the customer base that rivals the population of middle-to-large countries and they actually take time to try to figure out what all those people want and how to hone that gameplay. Even the “unpolished” and “disliked” SC2 is leagues beyond what most games can afford simply because Blizzard not only can but must afford it, or their numbers won't add up.

It's just that, when you're operating on their level, a “failure” is a game that only sells kajillions of copies — to be a success, it has to be in the umptygazillion range and make at least one more industrial nation completely beholden to the company.

Any time I hear the Star Citizen/StarCraft 2 comparison, I'm reminded of this old Penny Arcade comic from 2001.



It's perhaps even more true today than it was at the time - Blizzard can say they're making whatever they want and there's a reasonable assumption that it will be A Good Game, even if it's not to your personal tastes. They've proven that they absolutely will do everything they can to avoid putting out a shitheap, and on the rare occasion that they do (looking at you, Diablo 3) you can pretty much be guaranteed they're going to fix it. The thing Citizens do not and will never understand is that Blizzard can afford to take 7 years to "make a carbon copy of their old RTS" because they have a reputation built on doing exactly that, and because they have more money than God. CIG have a lot of money, yes, but not "we make a new hat for WoW every week that sells 7 million times by Friday" money, and they have NO reputation.

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

Spatial posted:

There's a lot of posts like this lately and it's quite funny. A lot of them would be happy posting in here.

This also happened last year just before the mass delusion was once again reinforced by a scripted demo and a whole lot of empty promises. It will probably work again, they are ignorant of the technology and heavily invested socially and financially. This combination produces the most extreme gullibility possible.

I dunno. I know you can never underestimate the ability of citizens to delude themselves, but that subreddit genuinely does feel more corrosive this time

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Beet Wagon posted:

and they have NO reputation.

Oh, I dunno...

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Spatial posted:

Beet, is the FPS game actually that stuttery or was that an issue with the stream?

Star Marine is absolutely the laggiest, jankiest, shittiest first person shooter I have played in recent memory. I've played Steam Early Access dinosaur shooters that felt smoother and easier to play than SM. I cannot overstate how loving horrible the skipping, jittering, and controls are in Star Marine. It is absolute garbage, and CIG should be ashamed of themselves for even considering releasing it to "the public."

If you go watch any of WTFO's old streams you'll see that it's impossible to aim because if your target isn't running straight at you the commando you're trying to shoot skitters wildly across the screen every single time.

e: and WTFO has a way nicer gaming PC than I do.

Beet Wagon fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Jul 30, 2017

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Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Virtual Captain posted:

lol. Where is Squadron 42 exactly?



I think it's in a vault at Coutts

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