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Sabreseven posted:You know, I was thinking earlier, Had this been any other sane studio I would've said that Derek Smart's post would've made little to no impact on the development. Anyone with a halfway competent PR team knows you just don't engage with a situation like that. That said, Crobberts' absolute poo poo-fit about The Escapist's posts and his meltdown letter (including choice words about Derek Smart) leads me to believe there is genuinely a part of him, however small, that feels the need to prove himself since that outburst. If anything, I get the impression that the Derek/Escapist debacle may have, perversely, helped push SC out of theory-crafting hell and into development hell instead. Sadly, total managerial incompetence, poor planning and a team way too lopsided towards .jpg production means that the push is ultimately wasted and what the backers got was, well, Gamescom 2017. If none of this had happened CIG might well be in exactly the same place as it is now, but I have a suspicion that they would have just kept on treading water. So if anything, I think SC would have been even further behind than it is now.
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thatguy posted:Taking down FAU. Running for President.
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Hav posted:Running for President. Who hasn't?
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D_Smart posted:We just got word of a $30K refunder, and it was confirmed by two other people. Where was this? On Discord?
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big nipples big life posted:clifford says he is at over 40k in ships, plus being a massive weirdo he sends them gift baskets and poo poo all the time. I bet he's over 50k. He is probably not joking when he says it's all disposable income, unlike most of the other backers trying to console themselves I seem to remember from some of his twitter pictures it looks like he's an engineer or architect from the drawings he had scattered around Doesn't make him any less broke-brained for giving that much money to Chris Roberts
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Loxbourne posted:EDIT: I see you asked specifically about the US thing...well, getting money from a debtor on the other side of the Atlantic is an administrative nightmare, especially when that debtor is trying to claim it's a wholly unconnected company. US and UK branches of multinational corporations often ruthlessly cut off the smaller branch and let it twist in the wind if they hit financial trouble. "Payroll claim? What payroll claim, this is Multinational Bastards US not Multinational Bastards UK, I have no idea what you're talking about!" Extradition treaties don't cover anything like financial issues unless the source country makes a request and has prosecuted in abstentia, and it's frequently one-sided. I think a lot of Americans assume that their legal reach is a lot longer than it actually is. I've been laughing off lawsuits since the internet gave people power to threaten other people. Thanks for that write up, Coutts will have their eye on the ball, especially given the _perceived_ value of whatever they can screw out of this. Now why hasn't tencent pitched to RSI? Spitballing, but what would it take for Chris to get away clean (again). Selling his share in the company? Colostomy Bag posted:Who hasn't? The bar is quite low these days.
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Rad Russian posted:Their pre-rendered ship commercials are easy to do since they require 0 AI, 0 physics, and 0 gameplay mechanics. For CitizenCon they will simply do 30 mins of pre-rendered cutscenes to show off SQ42 with a couple spots where it drops you into space to fight some ships which they already have the capability to do. This is all SQ42 needed to be and it would've probably been a well-recieved and successful indie kickstarter. Nicholas fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Aug 31, 2017 |
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Latin Pheonix posted:Had this been any other sane studio I would've said that Derek Smart's post would've made little to no impact on the development. Anyone with a halfway competent PR team knows you just don't engage with a situation like that. And that's the really funny thing, Derek actually speeding up the dev time of SC.  It's very plausible considering how it seemed to be just floundering before that infamous blog was penned.I also like to think at the begining of all this silliness, Derek was part way through smashing a vending machine to pieces with his bare hands, but paused when SC popped up on the KS site. 
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I love how, apart from the random change of direction, the only indication in this game that the ship took damage is that the wing icon disappeared from the hologram in the top right (and maybe a muted voice message). In X-wing (1993), you would've heard a very loud and scary (from a child's perspective at least) crunch, accompanied by a loud, flashing alarm in the cockpit. Star Citizen still doesn't have proper audio cues; a technology developed 24 loving years ago.
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Wuxi posted:Ok, so I've wondered... Confused? You won't be, after this week's episode of... Soap (cue intro theme).
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Ponzi posted:Confused? You won't be, after this week's episode of... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QejBwptSQZc Got your eighties references covered, brosef.
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Hav posted:Best move in your 'spiritual advisor' with your wife and kids and start wearing turquoise. Well, at least he's making that break from reality work for him.
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Hav posted:Spitballing, but what would it take for Chris to get away clean (again). Selling his share in the company? Sell his shares in the company. Sell something he can call his intellectual property or his likeness to the company (or "licence" it for regular payments in perpetuity, that's a classic). Have the company take out and pay for an indemnity insurance policy covering legal expenses arising out of his directorship, and sign a severance agreement with mutual non-disparagement provisions and a waiver of claims. Maybe even lend the company money and have it pay him interest at whatever rate he cares to set (that could be easily spun as injecting his own cash to keep the company afloat when in fact it's nothing of the sort). Then resign all his directorships, take the list of backers and disappear into the night (that list alone would be worth millions). He'd never work again, and to be honest I think Chris's ego wouldn't let him take this route, but the option is on the table.
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Latin Pheonix posted:I love how, apart from the random change of direction, the only indication in this game that the ship took damage is that the wing icon disappeared from the hologram in the top right (and maybe a muted voice message). "DOINK!! Target friendly, alert crash close, DOINK!! alert port side crash close DOINK!!" Seriously, what's with those 'doink' sounds?
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https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/903361676506013697quote:While it will still be some time before we see the Origin 600i in game, we hope you’re as excited as we are as the game expands with the further development of Origin ships in the Star Citizen universe. https://twitter.com/CptDux/status/900325576048771072
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AP posted:https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/903361676506013697 The new spaceship you're selling is really loving expensive, especially compared to larger ships with better stats. Why is this? "We are building a universe, and part of that means we can consider aspects that a standard game does not, such as value and desirability. When we look at vehicles in the real world, its apparent that more functionality does not always mean something is more expensive, and vice versa. In the Star Citizen universe, a sleek, luxury ship created by Origin will bring certain connotations with it, in the same way most people would find a sports coupé more desirable than a family sedan, despite the fact it has less seats and cup-holders."
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MilesK posted:The new spaceship you're selling is really loving expensive, especially compared to larger ships with better stats. Why is this? "Because you stupid fuckfaces keep buying this poo poo lmao" would have been shorter...
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Eh? Oh, that'll be why all the rich people are single. LMAO!!!!!! Saying that while keeping a straight face is hard. 
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Loxbourne posted:
This answers my question, thank you. On CIG shuffling assets around to protect them from someone going after them - the only way I see this happening is if 1. CIG refuse to pay or are unable to pay a whale sized refund and the whale goes after them like Moby Dick 2. Coutts loan goes into default and Coutts go after them If you had to take a guess... Is the threat from whales going after them big enough to justify hiding assets or is there some other entity financing them in the background?
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I flush all my money down the toilet because no one will gently caress me #600Reasons
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Thoatse posted:You can read even more about it in his Jew lie blog Shot, over. Shot, out. Splash, over. Splash, out. Just... drat... That line is beautiful.
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his nibs posted:Or rather, his Benoirs Y'all got it wrong. As if Ben would write memoirs focussed on himself rather than on his childhood hero whose light he briefly basked in. He's going to write it 99% about his boss, and it will be a veritable emotional rollercoaster, a real moving tour-de-force. That Chris Benoir is going to leave a lot of people choked up.
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I'm laughing so hard at the idea of earnestly being asked how many toilets your sci-fi spaceship in you sci-fi spaceship game will have, and thinking the question matters enough to put on an official FAQ. I feel like I need to establish a canon number of toilets for Stellaris ships now.
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SomethingJones posted:1. CIG refuse to pay or are unable to pay a whale sized refund and the whale goes after them like Moby Dick Bootcha and TheAgent's early material suggested CIG were actually quite scared of a whale stampede for a while. Before Derek exploded onto the scene the backers weren't quite as full-blown cultish, and there were plenty of early backers who were in deep and unhappy about the direction Star Citizen seemed to be taking. I'm hoping Bootcha's upcoming project talks a bit about this. We've also heard hints here and there through Derek that other creditors have taken CIG to court in the past, and something happened involving ex-producer Travis Day which we never really got to the bottom of, but sounded very ugly and acrimonious. Don't forget the egos involved, either. The last company I saw use the tiny-company-network tactic used it simply because the CEO was such an arsehole she refused to ever pay out on a court judgment because no mere judge could tell her what to do. All that complex legal and finance work to shuffle assets around, spending tens of thousands in legal and accountancy fees, just because gently caress You, You Don't Get My Money Y'Hear? To be quite frank I doubt they're worried about anything beyond making sure they can pay their own salaries for as long as possible. It's quite clear Chris and Sandi have become accustomed to a wealthy lifestyle, and they're not going to give that up when there are still peons to be sacked.
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If Chris and Sandi do in fact get divorced, hearing all about *infidelity* might be a refreshing change.
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Wiz posted:I'm laughing so hard at the idea of earnestly being asked how many toilets your sci-fi spaceship in you sci-fi spaceship game will have, and thinking the question matters enough to put on an official FAQ. You should also specify how many plys the toilet paper has, so you know which are the luxury ships.
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MilesK posted:You should also specify how many plys the toilet paper has, so you know which are the luxury ships. Good idea. Maybe I should add this to the ship designer, require the player to spend minerals on luxury toilets for crew comfort. Then again, that would be an actual game mechanic, and we can't have those.
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Sabreseven posted:"DOINK!! Target friendly, alert crash close, DOINK!! alert port side crash close DOINK!!" Looking at it again, those alerts were warnings of an impending impact, not notices that an impact took place  .
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Foo Diddley posted:I flush all my money down the toilet because no one will gently caress me #600Reasons Yeah, we laugh but I bet the other single persons stuff he's flushing, is likely to be stuck to some 2 ply.
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Toops posted:Makin' poo poo is tough This and also if you have ever worked 1 day in your life as a cog, or as lubricant, a lever, whatever in 'the machine' you quickly understand that even at the most prestigious companies in the world it's smokes and mirrors all the way down. They all have problems with management, owners, CEOs, workers, overtime, crunch, egos, marketing making poo poo up, salespeople over selling, nepotism, just loving everything. The larger it gets the more problems they have. But despite all this they usually deliver something because they have deadlines and most of the time customers don't pay until the product or service is delivered. Citizens don't understand this for some reason, even their favorite company is a fantasy in their minds.
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Wiz posted:I'm laughing so hard at the idea of earnestly being asked how many toilets your sci-fi spaceship in you sci-fi spaceship game will have, and thinking the question matters enough to put on an official FAQ. Let me guess, you think you are a game developer.
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Loxbourne posted:
So whalefear may be enough to justify shuffling lots of paperwork under the desk without invoking another source of finance. For me, the shuffling still sort of hints at it but I hadn't considered ego being behind it either like in yoyr example. You must get to meet lots of fun people... And yes, giving up that level of lifestyle can be too much for most people who have become climatised to it. The brazen and shameless way they ask for money, especially after wheeling out that pile of poo poo at gamescon is one example of them clinging on to it.
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Beet Wagon posted:"Because you stupid fuckfaces keep buying this poo poo lmao" would have been shorter...
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Colostomy Bag posted:Let me guess, you think you are a game developer. I mean, I've never done a single day of mocapping, so how could I be?
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