aleksendr posted:

There are many valid suspicion than SC twitch presence is Astroturfed. Its probable a high % of SC twitch streamers receive subsidies in one form or another from GIC PR an internet reputation management firm, thus ensuring a twitch presence no matter how unsuited the game is for audiences.

As for who would do it ? Well, pennies on the dollar is better than no penies at all, If your not a girl in a low cut top you have to start somewhere if you hope to be a famous twitch host someday. PR agency can always find a few hopefull spergs willing to work for a few free ships or maybe the possibility of a CIG studio tour.

runsamok posted:

Seriously, Skywanderers is already a better Star Citizen than Star Citizen & it's the product of a single Frenchman working for a single year, not 400 resume-padders masturbating in Maya & Cryengine around the clock & across the world.

AP posted:

https://twitter.com/StarCitizenAA/status/908710353525145602

runsamok posted:

Seriously, Skywanderers is already a better Star Citizen than Star Citizen & it's the product of a single Frenchman working for a single year, not 400 resume-padders masturbating in Maya & Cryengine around the clock & across the world.

(I love how the "buy a ship" tiers on the Skywanderers KS are for the backers to make ships for the game-maker, not the other way around.)

AbstractNapper posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhywXu8vsuM&t=503s

ModernSociety posted:

The work he's achieved so far looks impressive, but I'm wary of the amount of things that are yet to be done that he's claimed "I'll get to that later". It's possible that's just me misreading his demeanor but I'm going to wait until it's out in the wild and had a few patch cycles before giving it any cash.

hot balls man no homo posted:

CIG isn't paying the streamers, the backers are by buying up the grey market ships that CIG gives to the backers as totally legit gifts. Gifts that they pull out of their rear end at literally no cost to themselves.

ModernSociety posted:

I've been keeping an eye on this game, it looks very interesting. Sort of like an Elite/Minecraft/Space Engineers mashup.

The work he's achieved so far looks impressive, but I'm wary of the amount of things that are yet to be done that he's claimed "I'll get to that later". It's possible that's just me misreading his demeanor but I'm going to wait until it's out in the wild and had a few patch cycles before giving it any cash.

big nipples big life posted:

Stop buying unfinished games.

runsamok posted:

Totally valid. I gave him a modicum of my sweet refund cash & will have access to the pre-Alpha in like November or something. I'll keep the goons in the loop.

aleksendr posted:

One way or another the Twitch presence of the game is subsidized, something good game dont have to do (but still do sometime anyway with partnership and events)

Modern media is a fickle mistress. One day your on the top of the game and a single jew joke later your personna non grata on the platform.


Hopefully the genre will not suffer with the same curse than zombie survival crafting games...

SomethingJones posted:

(To the CIG minions reading the thread - every time Chris or Erin or any of your devs open their mouths in one of these videos every single word and utterance is going to appear in this thread, unedited and 100% accurate.)


Star Citizen: Around the Verse Sep 14, 2017
@ 08:23

Erin Roberts:
I wanna get... I wanna go to Evocati... I wanna make sure the first thing we can do is ensure we can traverse the system easily and well, and that's all this set of bugs is about, is we... you know... from getting in, taking off, ATC working, QT-ing working, being able to go to locations, all that kinda stuff, we just get THAT working and so it's not... it's not a nightm... you know I'm not going into maps all the time and trying to work out where I can jump places and so forth... you can do that kind of stuff and we have what I think is a really good start for EVOCATI cos it's a lot of FUN, it's FUN.

You go down to planets you do some EVENTS. And THEN, once we get this set of twenty, you know, SIX bugs left, you know... and don't forget these are the 26 bugs I want fixed to go to EVOCATI with, but I'm SURE we'll fix a bunch of other STUFF, you know, at the same time and stuff like that... and then we basically go and get that in, and then once we get that set of BUGS... you know, those set of, uh, BUGS... then what we're gonna do again is sit... sit down with TARD and then say, 'Right! What's um... what's the next feature we wanna focus on', and then pick another say ten, twenty um... like FEATURES... let's get TRADING maybe working properly and then maybe... ten or fifteen features...

(A dev raises his hand to speak at this point and is ignored)


... and we say right, here's the... here's the seventeen BUGS for that, that's the next release for EVOCATI, let's get all this stuff worked on and then we fix all sorts of stuff in the background, and we just basically PICK a FEATURE at a time, NAIL IT DOWN and just keep on going that way and that's how we're gonna close this out.

Sarsapariller posted:

Is there a kickstarter for this concept?

SomethingJones posted:

then what we're gonna do again is sit... sit down with TARD

Dark Off posted:

theres several options here all hilarious.

a) the refund is fake
a1) CIG sues the guy for libel since they claimed to know his ID
a2) CIG lied about the ID'ing the refunder

b) the refund is real 45 000 dollars down the drain and CIG lied about the sum. The guy that got refund could show bank transaction nailing CIG for lying.

c) everyone suddenly realizes that they screwed up. CIG for stating lie, and fake refunder for damaging CIG more than helping em.
everyone quietly sweeps the whole issue under the rug. The whole thing was just drat big self own by shitizens.

I think c is the case here.
refund cascade is real and it got started from shitizen trying to proof that star citizen refunds were fake
ofc it also gives em option to deny that refunds are happening because they are all fake, but who cares about that.
Its good thing that ppl can get their fake money out of the project without any hassle.

ManofManyAliases posted:

I can't wait!

SomethingJones posted:

Derek do you want to comment or tweet on this piece of theatre from inside CIG's meeting room, in which Erin Roberts puts his devs right in the firing line of his customers? A video in which he tells them to work on each of these lists of bugs which are now being shown to backers as a countdown to each release?

Is no one else seeing this? Really?

You'd have to be loving retarded to put up with that poo poo as a professional software engineer.

SomethingJones posted:

So the bug countdown to each point release is what's being given to the backers, Erin is in there telling his guys to work on these buglists and we're being shown it in a video, the backers will then be watching these buglists as a countdown to the next release - so Erin is removing himself from the equation and putting his devs right up against the backers and that's what this little piece of theatre was about and the change to the point release schedule.

Hey Erin Roberts, go gently caress yourself. And gently caress you devs if you are still stupid enough to be working for that oval office.

Beet Wagon posted:

big nipples big life posted:

everyone who doesn't suck croberts dick 24/7 is a goon and likely derek smart

SomethingJones posted:

Derek do you want to comment or tweet on this piece of theatre from inside CIG's meeting room, in which Erin Roberts puts his devs right in the firing line of his customers? A video in which he tells them to work on each of these lists of bugs which are now being shown to backers as a countdown to each release?

Is no one else seeing this? Really?

You'd have to be loving retarded to put up with that poo poo as a professional software engineer.

SomethingJones posted:

Derek do you want to comment or tweet on this piece of theatre from inside CIG's meeting room, in which Erin Roberts puts his devs right in the firing line of his customers? A video in which he tells them to work on each of these lists of bugs which are now being shown to backers as a countdown to each release?

Is no one else seeing this? Really?

You'd have to be loving retarded to put up with that poo poo as a professional software engineer.

SomethingJones posted:

Erin Roberts:
ATC working, QT-ing working, being able to go to locations, all that kinda stuff, we just get THAT working and so it's not... it's not a nightm...

doingitwrong posted:

I dunno. Maybe the filmmakers have seen too many reality shows and documentaries or they think the backers have. Because in those shows there are always moment of drama when someone loses their cool. But the documentary is about a success! So they think that people losing their cool is part of running a successful project.

XK posted:

Being able to go to locations?