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Sanya Juutilainen posted:I mean... when did that ever matter? When was CI(not)G ever held accountable to stuff they promised in any of their videos? Game dev is hard, but it's easy because Chris Roberts Wing Commander wunderkind. This takes time because it's all new technology, but it will go quickly because they're using a well-known and supported engine. It's a custom engine and that takes time, but it's also Lumberyard so their partnership with Amazon means they'll get full custom backing and support. There are multinational studios so it takes time to build them and get them up to speed, but they also let them work around the clock and get things done incredibly quickly. They're inventing all new technology that has never been seen before so bugs are expected, but the technology is also mature and has been around forever so its plug and play nature means rapid iteration. It uses motion-capture for the most realistic possible movie-like movement, but it also has a sophisticated physics engine so objects interact realistically within a dynamic environment. Everything is true and all of it is good for Star Citizen!
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MedicineHut posted:This made me go check FFXIV stuff and found this: Will CR tell his team: "Go play Elite Dangerous for a year." ? Lol.
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Alright you just made up for at least six terrible TERRIBLE months of garbage I quickly scrolled past and never read.
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no_recall posted:Will CR tell his team: "Go play Elite Dangerous for a year." ? And I am not sure whether even Yoshida would be able to salvage SC.
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Dwesa posted:FFXIV's lead was replaced by higher-ups in Square Enix. There is no risk of that in CI, unless investors start with their demands or whales suddenly sober up. The irony here is that, FFXIV has had a rebuild, a lot of patches, and 3 expansions, all of this during the dev lifetime of Star Citizen (assuming Star Citizen started in 2010-2011) I have to say in my opinion, having finished Shadowbringers, its the best FF yet.
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no_recall posted:The irony here is that, FFXIV has had a rebuild, a lot of patches, and 3 expansions, all of this during the dev lifetime of Star Citizen (assuming Star Citizen started in 2010-2011) Is FFXIV worth going into 6 years after launch (of the rebuild)?
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MedicineHut posted:Is FFXIV worth going into 6 years after launch (of the rebuild)? Yes and no. If you like the aesthetic it's a great game but there's a barrier to entry that is the pre expansion content. It's a hundred quests of garbage run around and click on things with some semblance of story. If you can get past that and hit the first xpacs worth of content then if starts getting really good story wise (if you are into ff games) and some even say the best of ff history. E: Also before you hit xpac content and unlock more abilities you don't really have a lot of buttons to press as the global CD is like 2.5 seconds so its pretty slow. queef anxiety fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Aug 5, 2019 |
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no_recall posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d6PYCaT6vI HA! The same section stood out to me for two reasons. First, obviously "There is a danger we could make like too many missions to actually maintain" is funny on multiple levels. There is one incomplete star system and they are already struggling to maintain the handful they have there. Second, I am 99% sure he had to self-censor when he says "years ago now before 3.0 or even 2.0; we built all of our missions in flow graph that came with...
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MedicineHut posted:This made me go check FFXIV stuff and found this: 
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I've been gone from SA for ages. What happened with the court thing? Did any top level employees get in a new scandal? Kayak still a good dog? I don't think I need to ask anything else as the state of the game is a universal constant.
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Posting from a million pages back, but that t shirt ad looks like crap. It looks like some 14 year old's first scene in poser.
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Cheez posted:I've been gone from SA for ages. What happened with the court thing? Did any top level employees get in a new scandal? Kayak still a good dog? Last thing I know of, CIG tried to price Crytek out of the lawsuit by demanding they post a 2 million dollar bond to cover CIG's legal expenses if Crytek loses, arguing that Crytek is going bankrupt and by the end of this lawsuit might not be able to pay CIG's legal fees if so required. The judge pointed out that while it's true Crytek is in financial trouble, it would be wrong to price Crytek out of the courtroom, so she's set the bond to 500k. Crytek has like, a month or two to post the bond, at which point discovery will begin. No huge new scandals within the last month I think, other people will have to pitch in before that. Yes, Kayak is still a good dog.
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MedicineHut posted:Is FFXIV worth going into 6 years after launch (of the rebuild)? You get to play the first 35 levels of any job free, so why not? Job = class, one character can play as all classes to max level for a single fee of 13 dollars a month. So feel free to play all the jobs to level 35. Try it for yourself. Its definitely better than Star Citizen. e: words no_recall fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Aug 5, 2019 |
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Cheez posted:I've been gone from SA for ages. What happened with the court thing? Did any top level employees get in a new scandal? Kayak still a good dog? Still in progress. They've attempted to get it dismissed a couple of times, filings have been adjusted, and lawyers have been changed. Skadden, Arp and Flom are out of the picture and they've been replaced by IP lawyers who appear to be more engaged and higher energy. Crytek also has to post bond in the event that they lose - Californian law allows for an amount to be held in escrow against non-payment of fees and costs. We're approaching the end of discovery and it's still on for a jury trial. There was some hilarity around the Forbes article - https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattpe...y/#4a3f59175ac9
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no_recall posted:for a single fee of 13 dollars a month Do you work for CIG?
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I really fail to see the supposed $46 million in marketing in action. I guess they've paid a few streamers, and made a few commercials to appeal to backers, but that's pretty anemic for such a big budget project.
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Pixelate posted:What a blatant troll! There is no competition. Start Shitizen has *definitely* a sand worm, somewhere. No joke.
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no_recall posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d6PYCaT6vI "Making games is hard" is a really poor excuse, especially if what they're selling is touted as "highly ambitious". That's just hubris. And that is good for Star Citizer.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I really fail to see the supposed $46 million in marketing in action. I guess they've paid a few streamers, and made a few commercials to appeal to backers, but that's pretty anemic for such a big budget project. The subscriber money (touted at $3mill/year) is supposed to go towards "funding behind-the-scenes shows like Inside Star Citizen in addition to Jump Point, the monthly digital magazine about Star Citizen. This revenue also funds the development and release of subscriber-exclusive perks like the monthly hangar flair series and exclusive subscriber merchandise!" so basically a streamer, a garage mag, and like a week of 1 artist's time per month and some t-shirts Not sure where the other $2.5 million is going, and that's being generous.
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So the retro pseudo-sequel to Wing Commander/ Privateer is out in 2 weeks. We can hash that off the list. How much will NMS online / Dual Universe eat into the Star Citizen hype?
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None. Since those games are actually coming out, you won't be able to have beautifully immaculate theorycrafted perfection in your head while you are taking sunset screenshots.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I really fail to see the supposed $46 million in marketing in action. I guess they've paid a few streamers, and made a few commercials to appeal to backers, but that's pretty anemic for such a big budget project. Is there any better marketing than spending all that money to make a tiny sliver of progress on some of the tasks that are years behind? Selling fake progress is what brings in money, ergo working on the game is marketing. Also, spending that money on a new Porsche for Chris is marketing. Gotta sell the fiction that the company is doing great to keep up the faith and pledging, and only companies that are doing great spend money on Porsches.
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Quavers posted:Sean Murray should absolve himself IMO He did, by improving the game by leaps and bounds after his screw up. Actions speak louder than words.
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Agony Aunt posted:He did, by improving the game by leaps and bounds after his screw up. not according to that one goon who won't buy NMS without an apology
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So that's both SaltyMike (nee Twerk) and WTFO both playing R:GO.
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Cheez posted:I've been gone from SA for ages. What happened with the court thing? Did any top level employees get in a new scandal? Kayak still a good dog? Forbes (the magazine, not just the bloggers) posted a nice article about the people in charge of Star Citizen. One highlight was Chris's former common-law wife getting a restraining order against Sandi for supposedly "stalking and threatening both her and her daughter for nearly three years." They also referenced a court-filed declaration where Chris claimed that Sandi had once tried to strangle him. https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattpe...-ready-to-play/
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Asmodai_00 posted:not according to that one goon who won't buy NMS without an apology Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And if that is the hill he chooses to die on, so be it.
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